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|Meep-Scans Closes (And Possibly ShoujoMagic)
|Apparently, today, Meep-Scans is closing its doors to the scanlation world. We wish the rest of you well on your endeavors.
In related news, ShoujoMagic, one of the oldest and most esteemed shoujo scanlation groups, will also possibly shut down soon. Visit their site for more details.
Edit: The reason behind the closing of Meep-Scans is the following:
They were sent a Cease and Desist letter from Daiwon, the legal publisher (in Korea) of most/all of their projects.
Reminder: Scanlators DO operate outside copyright laws. No matter how you justify it, scanlations are illegal (even if the series is not licensed in your country)
|Posted by lambchopsil on February 12th 1:43am
This is probably the worst news I've heard relating to anime/manga ever...
You and me both
Wow, this is ummm sad. Well, hopefully someone comes back and takes their place, but I'm going to miss Meep.
Meep is one of my favorite scanlation groups. i hope some of its members still wish to continue scanlating (that would make it easier to pick up some of their series)
I so hope that someone pics up Aflame Inferno and Immortal Regis. Those are my favorite manhwa.
Wow, nothing was noted in the last chapter of Regis... it just seems super sudden.
I really liked meep.
I am sorry for the people who read stuff from ShoujoMagic, and while I didn't care about the group, it is sad to see such a huge group go.
We're not closing... we're just going to release the last chapter and maybe we'll just continue doing as we are... Some faggy Korean kid decided to report us to the authorities...
Stupid kid. ~_~
Glad you guys will still release, maybe make like.. shadow releases or something... release only to RSS, or do like Yuki-sama scans when (I think) she, was still around?
I see zero reasoning behind reporting a group, it isn't like meep is stealing all the business away... too many Korean kids decided to read the English scans to save a dollar or so? Yeesh.
Protip: What meep was doing was illegal. Meep got shut down. Life goes on.
...man whos cares if itz illegal..i sure as hell dont... anywayz those companys takes years to tranlste ...who is ganna w8 so long?? but good thing meep is hopefully contuning
dont really care abt the shoujo but sad for it as well
Last time i checked RSS stands for "Real Secret Scanlations"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rss
btw, to meep-scans hope you guys will figure out a way to continue
. though i only read la mosca of all your series...
well all I can say is, most of us english only users wouldn't be able to read unlicensed manga/manhwa if it wasnt for the translators that take the time out of their days to translate for us, so even if it is illegal I support them all the way!.
Artimidorus...RSS? wats that?? i donno T-T tell mee plz...
will the realeases appear on mangatraders?
and Naturalrice ya guys ganna make another site or do like RSS (watever that is)??
Well, by RSS I just meant a sub site on their site that showed the latest updates. They could list it under like... meepscans/site/somerandomstuff/something for the rss, and only the people who know would see it through their programs/addons. I was just suggesting it as an alternative to actually updating the website, the idea came from a recent rash of servers shut down from Blizzard, and one site hiding their stuff showing their site was down, and hiding all their site functions through subdomains and folders, and different php sites. They are still going, and dozens of others are gone.
I hope we can keep getting more Aflame Inferno and Immortal Regis. Those are really interesting.
I HOPE WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE.....YOU GUYS ARE LIKE MY HEROS...I WISH I COULD GET A JOB AND SUPPORT YOU GUYS..T.T PLEASE DON'T DIE!!
wow.... I'll be sad if shoujomagic closed down. They have some great stuff up there
Well i heard meep-scans got a C&D from Diawon the korean publishing company that asked them to shut down. man this bad...i like the series done by them...haih...no koraen manhwa(translated) will be in malaysia ever....
Actually, there are manwha translated to Chinese in Malaysia (: (I don't read the BM ones, so I don't know). Just drop by Kinokuniya and you'll see quite a few or you can always just order.
I don't read scanlations from SM or Meep, but it's always shocking to see scanlators closing down or get closed down.
i can't read chinese so thats another big blow to me..
Ahh, guess I can't help you then :/
Like naturalrice said, it was from someone with apparently no official authority.. however, he reported them to the Korean council. Ask Yuumei if the group is still going.
Oh yeah, and I would like to emphasize and reiterate lamb's last point. I finally got around to trudging through the couple of pages of text for international copyright law and the links to the Universal Copyright Convention, the Berne convention, and the WIPO. Almost all the countries (at least, the majority of the one represented by scanlators) have signed on board the Berne Convention (which made the UCC obsolete once the United States conceded to join Berne) and that means automatically all countries who are members of the convention will uphold each other's copyrights, basically. The author's right to designate who may translate his/her work is a part of that copyright. So all scanlation, and even translation is illegal (in those member countries... which is basically almost all of them).
Ugh. Should have remembered to add this to the above. Sorry for so many comments. EVEN IF THE AUTHOR DIED, you have to realize the copyrights are still valid for up to FIFTY YEARS after the author's death for literary works under Berne.
So the question is which country isn't among the subscribers of the Bern convention and how to take the scanlation group headquarters there, at least virtually...
It's sad, but each scanlated chapter is a stab to its original publisher and author. So, it's normal for old groups to close down.
I'm just glad, that nobody takes more offensive methods
I've been on forums that closed down before. It's heartbreaking, but noth lifethreatening
Wow...That's a shame. Meep-scans is one of my favorite scanlation groups.
It's sad(even though I don't read any of their projects) but it's to be expected. The more visibility you get, the higher the risks of getting a C & D like Snoopycool and other groups have received.
Also, does this mean that most or all of their projects were from the same publisher? If so, then I understand why they closed.
Oh and about ShoujoMagic, sad I see... then again, when one of the main founders disappears along with almost all the staff, there's little to be done about it.
What will happen to Aflame Inferno now...
Im gonna make this out worse than it is, so faint of heart should look away
Wow... Just... Wow... Ppl are in trouble and are forced to shut down, and you dont even give a *hit about it. "WHAT ABOUT AFLAME INFERNO? WUT ABT IMMORTAL REGIS?!?!?" Why not "What about the members of meep?" "What about the owner of the domains?" You guys are fuckin selfish, Get the fuck out of your mothers basement and get out in the world.
End of Abusive message.
Oh a happier note, Im sure some people will anonymously release them after a while. And if push comes to shove, im sure you guys(Being the ppl who bitch and complain, yet keep their hands "clean") Will get off your asses and do it after a while
well I agree so much with you onizuka ! I was thinking : what about the members of meep ?!! but after I thought.... I wanna add that... there was really one person in this group who really made it possible and worked hard (this person made sure the scanlation was good enough for all of us fan!!)... but some others were lazy and not so reliable and he had to work and redo so many times !! maybe it is not so bad the group shut down if you think about it @_@ one person working so much for the benefit of the whole group all the time@_@ no way ! ... well as a fan of course I am sad the group shut down ! i was like WTH what is happening to them?!!!! but still !!!!!!! T_T I know I am harsh ... but knowing this I can't just keep quiet anymore@_@
I just wanted to say in the end thankssss for the hard work !!!
IMMORTAL REGIS is owned by the company who sent the letter while Aflame is not. meep could continue doing Aflame but doing only one project isn't what meep probably wanted to do.
It was a C&D. Uh, sorta.
Weird Korean law that anyone can speak up for a company if it's about legal procedures or some shit...
Sorry, lost the exact thing. -_- But yes the faggy korean kid that sent the letter was representing Daiwon, and has every right to.
Is a shame v_v
But life goes on and some Shadowy releases should be enough.
PS: No it won't be in mangatraders anymore, so grab your Hard drive and start to download cause all those chapies are going to disappear of Popular download sites... just give it a few months
Dude.. I'm not trying to start a freaking war over this copyright stuff... but we do realize it's illegal, I am not providing any more information over our group... It is LEGAL for a person to report and give out warnings about stuff like this and we understand he is a good semaritan for doing so. I am, however, very ticked about this matter.
Sigh... what the kid did what rite like you said and i respect that...
But if I ever came face to face with him... psssh it'd be a different story D:<
Meep scans were my fav scanlating group!
And they scanlated my two favourite manwah!
Noooooo! Ah man thats just ruined my day.
Stupid authorities XD
Guess no more Immortal Regis... even if a new group continues the project they will stop eventually. This sucks, i was looking forward to this manwha.
it's a shame, in the internet there are many illegal stuf that noone cares about, like software, music, books, but why care about scanlators that doesn't give any financial loss to the publishers
Why is it that when I saw the headline I automatically thought "That damn recession!"?
Lmao recession ROFL
I didn't even think of that, all I could think was "Noooo Witch Hunter! One of my fav series!!"
i love aflame inferno
! how can they? and who is gonna pick up the serieses?
hey're antagonizing against non-first language manga-readers!
Although I never read any of Meep scans, it still makes me mad...
Korean kid, one word for you: You traitor! DX
Are you serious? Meep-Scans were doing amazing projects.
I had thought about posting some big long comment, but now I just don't care. I'm sad Meep is gone, they did good work that I enjoyed and they seemed to be pretty nice guys. I'm also upset that Aflame Inferno has supposedly been licensed since May of last year, yet we haven't seen a thing from Tokyopop.
One thing I just want to say is that not everybody who reads manga online is a dick and just leeching so they don't have to pay for anything. Every month, I get a package from Japan that has issues of Comic Alive and morning2 (I also recently added good! afternoon to my subscriptions). Why? Because I want to support those magazines, the manga they run, and the mangaka they publish. Every time a new volume of Black Lagoon, Claymore or Gantz comes out in the US, I buy it. I've already read these manga online, but I want to support them, and see them continue getting published in English. I'd love it if the English releases actually caught up to the Japanese ones so that I could read the hardcopy instead of viewing scanlations. But until that time, I'll still read scanlations. I also have a bunch of tankoubons on my shelves of series that I enjoyed the scanlatons of, despite the fact that I read very little Japanese and can understand maybe a few words in the actual tank. If you enjoy a manga, I suggest you do the same thing. Buy the tanks off Amazon.jp or just go to your local bookstore and buy the licensed series in your country when it comes out.
I guess that was a long comment, but I just wanted to say it. Not everyone is a cheapskate who's trying to get everything for free.
Also, I'll be very sorry if ShoujoMagic closes. They've done some great projects, but I understand the predicament they are in. If I was a better editor or if I knew more Japanese, I would apply to help, but my editing sucks and my Japanese is non-existent. All I can do is encourage people to help them.
christo ...im the same..i buy my favs mangas only though >.< ...but meep scan ppl worked hard translating those things...and ya konw some complanies even copy from translators >.> also meep scns were doing nonlisenced projects as well ....they didnt need to go far as to kill the site... damn bastards (srry for language, only way to explain)
Clap, clap, clap. Good for you. The world needs more of you to keep being the nice place it is.
Having said that, I couldn't care less. If you want me to buy something, come and sell it HERE. If not, its game for everyone. Welcome to the real world.
ahhh i hope shoujomagic stays alive
Better safe than sorry. Bye bye meep, I really enjoyed your scanlations while it lasts, and good luck for your future endeavours
p.s. I don't really demand it, but underground releases would be nice XP
I hope nobody actually got named in the C & D. I could see lawyers filing suits against ISP's to get scanslator's names in the near future. People are talking about RSS, but what about IRC? As far as I know that's still more or less unpoliceable.
As for immortal regis, isn't it on its last volume scanslation wise?
I really like Meep-scans and ShojoMagic ;-;