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MangaToshokan Changes Direction
Slightly old news, but MangaToshokan is taking down most of their manga and will instead focus on manhwa and manhua. If you used their site, they are asking that you take a survey for them. Go to their website for more information.
Posted by lambchopsil on 
July 17th 8:49pm
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» matias067 on July 17th, 2010, 10:59pm

damn it!...very very bad news...

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» animeaddict1068 on July 18th, 2010, 12:57am

I see... so its like- 70 % disabled...not really good...

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» Chaoswind on July 18th, 2010, 6:22am

Tell me about it, they where the only site with all the chapters of Berserk around...

and is messed up how Naruto Fan is still around...

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» alexdhamp on July 22nd, 2010, 12:29am

Isn't Naruto Fan the only one actually guilty of selling unauthorized manga?

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» VawX on July 17th, 2010, 11:15pm

yes...
i already take the survey at the very first time they release it...
it sure is a bad news for all of us since mangatoshokan is a great read manga online site mmm...
please take the survey even for you who doesn't even read manga online mmm...

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» vietangelix on July 17th, 2010, 11:45pm

I knew it was going to happen one day with those sites. Gotta be resourceful and find other ways instead of wasting time ;D

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» ryful on July 18th, 2010, 2:32am

always thought toshokan would last the longest, but ohwell back to irc, this will so backfire for the publishers anyways

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» scorpiowolf on July 18th, 2010, 12:13am

explain to me why they had to close but Na**tofan is still up and running? common sense would have been to go after the obvious profiteers first....

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» VawX on July 18th, 2010, 12:39am

well...
that's right...
someone has to stop tazmo for eternity

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» Hydex on July 18th, 2010, 10:36am

He probably doesn't give a shit about these "possible" legal pressure.

I mean, it's not like a C&D has real power if it's not from a judge (and I'm not even sure they got one).

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» Achiyugo on July 19th, 2010, 4:06pm

I think it's an evil plan where they'll take down every online reader but leave narutofan up. Then you'll be forced to choose, between the one you once called enemy, and them.

Here's hoping Openmanga is a success.

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» phoenix7240 on July 19th, 2010, 10:05pm

ironically i actualy wrote an essey in which the whole naruto fan issue was half of it.

and now when they finally do something...... firstly this whole ordeal would have been great material for that paper. don't get me wrong i love the community and proud to be part of it.

and why the hell is narutofan still up and running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it should just fade into oblivion !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it gives us all the worst image.

i have read just about 75% of all the manga translated so far but if i actually paid for it who knows where I'd be financially. OUR HOBBY IS FAR TOO EXPENSIVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LEGALLY AND STILL BE OK...

THEN again I'M 17.

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» tom_moreau on July 18th, 2010, 4:03am

Well, then why are Onemanga and Mangafox still hosting licensed titles?
Are they going through with the legal pressure by the 30 publishers to a court or what?

I think will MangaToshokan will come back with the down taken titles when the situation calmed down again. Guess the situation was never as dangerous as now for the whole community to get taken out as now...

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» F0RR on July 18th, 2010, 4:51am

Well, there's always lurk. And other stuff. If needed, community can go veeeery deep underground. I2P can be used, for example.

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» MewMan on July 18th, 2010, 5:46am

I took the survey. Everyone should, too. Though I think it's pretty useless.

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» Meira on July 18th, 2010, 7:28am

Man, what a drag this is...

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» MARCOW on July 18th, 2010, 8:16am

90 % of my reading list is gone, the best mangas were deleted!

Now I have to change to another Online manga reader again for second time, One more Undeground.

First Mangafox, now Manga Toshokan.

Soon, We will have to forget about the online manga readers,and We`ll have to store our favorites mangas in the hard disk, If we want to read them

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» thevampirate on July 18th, 2010, 8:27am

i've been doing this for years, i suggest buying a 100 DvD pack and burining all of it to that. i can store about 4.5G of manga on them for 30$ and its well worth it in the long run. you get better quality that way as well.

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» SinsI on July 19th, 2010, 2:29pm

Very bad advice - DVDs don't last long, so "in the long run" it is very much not worth it; searching for things on those DVDs takes an eternity - you have to diligently keep an index, otherwise it is usually much faster to just re-download what you want. Space on DVDs is also more expensive than on HDD, and a lot of it is wasted(since you don't write precisely 4.5G).

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» babel on July 19th, 2010, 9:01pm

Sinsl is right. I learned the hard way. I used to store fansubs on DVD and had around 200. After a couple of years I went back to them to rewatch something and found around 30% of them partially or wholly unreadable. The cheapest and safest storage at the moment is an external HD that you can just plug in and use as and when, and to extend their lifetime, only use them to copy a title from and read/watch it from your internal HD, that way there's minimal wear & tear on the drives and they should last many years.

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» Hydex on July 18th, 2010, 10:37am

As we did before.

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» swiftstrike on July 18th, 2010, 10:49am

I wouldn't mind if they took down the licensed manga, but the unlicensed ones would be nearly impossible to find an official english version ..and less likely to get popular

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» Enternalfir3 on July 18th, 2010, 1:30pm

I agree, I don't mind/understand why the licensed ones are getting deleted but for the non-licensed ones...

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» babel on July 18th, 2010, 11:20am

For those of us who've been reading manga for 2 years or more, this makes very little difference. The recent hard-line approach to scanlations by the publishers is because of these on-line readers, simply because they are so high-profile and are often only there to make money. This changes something done by fans for fans into simple theft and I can't blame the publishers for getting angry about it. I know MangaTosh wasn't like that but it was one of only a few run in the right way. I always preferred to download scanlations anyway - especially the unlicensed ones because I often re-read them and they often disappear from the net.
Hopefully this purge of the readers will return things to normal once more. Though I'm sorry to see MT go, I'll be glad to see the back of the others.

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» Name-Undecided on July 18th, 2010, 11:30am

I wouldn't mind if every manga online reader and every scanlation site in the world went down. What we're doing is ILLEGAL, don't you people get it? Fun, but still illegal.

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» Harimau on July 18th, 2010, 12:33pm

Cool story bro.

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» shadowty on July 19th, 2010, 9:52pm

Guess we know who works for a publishing company.

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» phoenix7240 on July 19th, 2010, 10:11pm

your probably right about him. what can he do it's his job.

shoku go gyoudai (occupational disease)

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» ikuyoK on July 18th, 2010, 12:49pm

Well atleast if we do have to go all IRC then some of the bare-minimum leechers will finally learn to use it. And it will purge all the ones that don't..

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» Marz on July 18th, 2010, 1:25pm

Everything is going back to the old ways. Nothing changed for me smile

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» Xeronia on July 18th, 2010, 10:13pm

There are bigger sites to go after. Something is wrong unless ALL sites are doing the same thing.

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» phoenix7240 on July 19th, 2010, 10:33pm

look on ANN and you will find in their logs, resent entry's about A legal online manga reader in the works its will allow for scanlators to work on projects legally. that's about all i know about 100%

again i am 17 and a leecher. (i will contribute when in collage probably as a translator, but as of now i just collect store it and contribute when i find nessisery)

the site will start with only yaoi material to establish a fanbase before moving on.

link to artical:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-17/dm p-ceo/new-venture-to-launch-1000+manga-online

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» mrsatan on July 21st, 2010, 4:15pm

That is a good idea and one they should have begun years ago. Weird they are starting with Yaoi though, since I didn't think that it had a huge overseas market.

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» alexdhamp on July 22nd, 2010, 12:52am

Are you kidding..just a visit in the Manga Fox's Naruto Romance section will show you how popular yaoi is in the West. >.<

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» jackblack901 on July 21st, 2010, 2:08am

I just wonder why the publisher can force MangaToshokan to remove their manga but they don't or can't do the same thing to Mangafox and Onemanga?

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» daiphongdao on July 21st, 2010, 3:07am

AFAIK Mangatoshokan haven't received any C&D letter after the one they received back in June.
But they consulted a lawer and he advised them to remove all manga from publisher in the coalition and they followed that advice.

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» jackblack901 on July 21st, 2010, 8:31am

It makes sense. Thanks. It sounds kinda lame but it's really a legal thing to do I guess.

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» mrsatan on July 21st, 2010, 4:13pm

Screw the publishers, if they didn't take so damn long to get the manga over here then it wouldn't be a problem. Also they have never tried to work with the scanlator's or even tried different options such as paying scalator's to work on the latest issue then to put it online.

This is like trying to put your thumb over a hole in a dam, it's not going to stop the flood. No matter what, people will find away around it.

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» SailorPokemon on July 21st, 2010, 6:05pm

Seriously, this is making me mad.
They don't realize that no matter what they do we're still going to find ways to read it online, because American publishing companies are so damned slow. I buy manga whenever I have the money to do so, it doesn't matter if I've read it online or not already, if I like the series enough of course I'll buy it.

You know, in a way, sites that host manga scanlations are sort of like libraries.
We don't have to pay to read it, but if we like the book enough we buy our own copy of it.
So taking away manga from those sites is sort of like taking away libraries.. right?
Besides, we could even read the published manga at the bookstore and not even buy it either.

I'm sick of having to look for new sites to read manga already.

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» guesswho969 on July 21st, 2010, 11:22pm

at least they are keeping up the manhwas. onemanga just decide to shut down completely. god i hope we dont lose any more hosting sites.

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» Moirae on July 21st, 2010, 11:54pm

I just hope that it stops with the Online Readers. I only use them when I am away from my computer. Since I've been following scanlations since 2001 or so, I remember using irc and torrents more than hosting sites and readers. It might be a little more inconvenient to go back, but I don't mind too much.

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» SailorPokemon on July 23rd, 2010, 9:20am

Ah, that's true! As I can find DLs for them (like I've been doing for Kuroshitsuji), I won't mind it too much. o:

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» Pikapu on July 22nd, 2010, 2:17pm

so does that mean they're gonna change the name of their website since they're not showing manga, but manhwa?? @_@;;...

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» totoykamao on July 22nd, 2010, 3:53pm

tsk hate what's happening it's like were back on stone age!!

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