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New law targeting otaku culture!!!
SpicyWolfHoro writes: For those of you who are not keeping up with current events in japan, here is a newsflash!!

Read here to get a better Idea of what is going on:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/15/tokyo-manga-ban-signed-into-law/

In summary, the tokyo government has just passed a law that directly targets Anime, Manga, and Games! They are censoring things to such an extreme degree that it is likely to put many anime and manga publishing/producing companies out of business.

Any anime, manga, or game that depicts: Violence, Sex, Crime, Homosexuality (Yup, girls there goes your Yaoi), anything that could be construed as "a bad influence on youth", anything of the above depicting minors, and more... (and there goes any Ecchi manga, any student/teacher, incest, age gap, and most shoujo series)

All of which is now a crime to Own, Create, or Sell.

Many mangas will probably be put to an end as they will no longer be legal.

Such examples as To Love-ru!, Wolf Guy, Deadman Wonderland, etc.

With this law, for a series to be legal, the antagonist would either have to be related to the Care Bears, or completely nonexistent. Without an antagonist, there is no plot. Without some kind of crime/evil there is not real antagonist. How do you create a series without a plot? Even 4-koma has a plot... sort of.

The mastermind behind this is Tokyo Governor Shintarō Ishihara, who blatantly shows no care for the illustrated entertainment industry. He claims that the law is to protect the youth of japan, yet he himself is the author of a series of schoolgirl gang rape novels.

The law is coming into effect April 2011, and will come out in full force in July 2011.

Kadokawa (Anime Producing Company) has declared that they will fight the new law.

Feel free to offer them your support: (Page in Japanese)

http://www.kadokawa-pictures.co.jp/companyinfo/contactus.shtml

I don't know what we can do, but support our publishers!!

Spread the news, and join in the fight! I am sending letters to every anime, manga and gaming company that will be affected and declaring my support. I urge all other fans to do the same. Defend our anime! Defend our manga! Defend our starving
artists!
Posted by lambchopsil on December 16th 2:22am Comments ( 140 )  [ View ]  [ Add ]
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» VawX on December 15th, 2010, 8:46pm

manga and anime are one of Japanese charm mmm...
if they want to kill it, it's just too idiot to be called improvement mmm...
even the most popular mangas like dragon ball, which already known world wide, had their own ecchi chapter mmm...

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» eternia on December 15th, 2010, 8:51pm

Sending letters is too much of a hassle.
Somebody should just put on an 'Akumetsu' mask and kill that senile old fart Ishihara.
And all the parliement members who supported him LOL.

Japan is amongst the countries with the lowest crime rate! That stupid law is unreasonable!
Do they tell us to live like vegetable? With no fantasy?

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» Crenshinibon on December 16th, 2010, 1:09am

I'm sorry, but there's a deeply hilarious irony to your post.

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» tartufo on December 16th, 2010, 7:27am

Agreed. laugh

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» thekusanagi on December 16th, 2010, 11:08am

thats exactly what they are telling.

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» keita112 on December 25th, 2010, 12:52am

we need akumetsu!!! Btw how do you ban gundam, its targetted more for an adult audience anyways with all that war philosophy and all. Thats a load of bull. Sex is part of the human way of life, and banning homosexuality is no different than being a homophobe, this is more like some ignorant bigotted stereotypical 'Hick' law to me. Next thing you know their banning all homosexuals, bisexuals, veteren, blacks, and non-japanese all together.

Did i also mention this is against freedom of speech? Manga is no different than literature. If girls can read those lame supermarket smut romance novel paperbacks, they have every right to read those dirty smut mangas. If you're banning series like macross and gundam you might as well ban all those books in relation to violence anyways.

Fuck those assholes who want 'decency' more like they want to garner support in the form of votes from those neurotic over-protective asian parent types. Next thing you know were burning books, and destroying hard drives just because their 'dangerous'.

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» veve on December 25th, 2010, 2:57am

Perfeclty said! Trying to hide from the kids things that are natural and a part of the human life is what is harmful. Not their showing in books, TV etc. It is abnormal to keep the children ignorant about what the real life is. The way how this must be shown to them may be debatable but not the same question if they must be shown.

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» Toto on December 15th, 2010, 9:13pm

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» animefanatic on December 15th, 2010, 9:32pm

You know I think it only affects < 18 and public tv. Alot of stuff would just have to slip a 18+ sticker on it. But the bill is really vague so who knows what this means...

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» naikan on December 15th, 2010, 9:45pm

Yeah, I don't see why some people are having fits over something this vague. It just screams stuck in litigation.

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» zoone4 on December 15th, 2010, 9:47pm

who knows it will probably be one of dose laws that don`t get enforced (if there lucky)

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» thekusanagi on December 16th, 2010, 11:12am

well, lets hope they'll be able to at least put a 18+ sticker on it. but still, it would affect sales >.> and guess whats happening to a manga that doesnt sells well...

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» HoshiRyo on December 18th, 2010, 6:51pm

Actually, if all that is needed is an 18+ sticker, in Japan that might simply up sales. They run those on an honor system: they trust you to not read porn, smoke cigarettes, or drink alcohol if you're underage.

They trust you to be buying for a legal adult when you do buy such and it's not legal for you to personally consume such.

Actually, from a practical standpoint, a uniform rating system would be handy, if it's set up not to ban anything but rather to ensure that the buyer doesn't have SURPRISE PORN® in the middle of their otherwise cute slice-of-life story. ("Oh, look, she's thinking about her job as a secretary and going shopping for dinner and...doing the guy behind the meat counter and the fishmonger and the clerk behind the register in a foursome? Wha?")

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» kyashi39 on January 1st, 2011, 2:09pm

i really lol @ suprise porn XD

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» Agkelos on December 15th, 2010, 9:41pm

I was recently pointed to this blog (http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/) for reliable info. It does SEEMS to only affect non-adult stuff....but who knows what is going to happen in the future...

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» GodDelusion on December 15th, 2010, 10:23pm

YES

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» GodDelusion on December 15th, 2010, 10:27pm

actually I reread it..and I'm gonna kill myself..

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» aznkaze550 on December 15th, 2010, 10:44pm

Time to kiss manga/anime good bye....

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» rgal on December 15th, 2010, 11:29pm

Does "Any anime, manga, or game that depicts..." mean that at least light novels are not affected by this... law?

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» Agent556 on December 15th, 2010, 11:35pm

novels and pornography are not affected by the law, IIRC

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» ichigo_daisuki on December 16th, 2010, 12:01am

This is becoming over-exaggerated just a bit.

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» Silver_Sky on December 16th, 2010, 12:01am

The bill has good intentions but it's ridiculous!! This censorship is going too far.

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» kawaiiusagichan on December 16th, 2010, 12:16am

It's just adding an 'adult material' tag.

Besides, with this trash the govt is creating, I guess they'll crack down less hard on the 'war on scanlation'. Who knows? Every cloud has a silver lining.

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» monkeyvoodoo on December 16th, 2010, 12:23am

This whole post is kind of sensationalist-sounding. The law is a Tokyo law affecting Tokyo only. While it's still bad news in a number of ways, it's not the end of the manga world as we know it, and it's also possible it could be repealed/overturned before it comes into effect. It's not like there's anything we foreigners can really do about it anyways, so there's not much use getting all huffy over it.

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» unya on December 16th, 2010, 1:16am

Why the hell are you taking news from this TROLL BLOG?!
That law is only a Tokyo Law that force people to label 18+ mangas that has such content on them!
Seriously, quit falling for this crappy troll.

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» thevampirate on December 16th, 2010, 3:15am

actually the law is real and is dangerous. anime/manga like Naruto, Bleach, fairy tail, TLR, and half of the other manga published by Shueisha (if it shows partial nudity or has dead bodies/blood and gore its in danger of being 18+) if many shounen manga become 18+ then kids cant buy jump and then manga industry dies.

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» unya on December 16th, 2010, 5:01am

It's only dangerous for shounen/shoujo manga. So anything that is typically something supposed to be read by mature audience, it doesn't do anything. Sadly people are actually believing the lies that the idiots on Sankaku spread.

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» willdabeast on December 16th, 2010, 7:40am

The law being dangerous to shounen/shoujo manga (including seinen/josei manga btw) is EXACTLY THE ENTIRE POINT. The Sankaku article linked said NOTHING to the contrary. Yes there are some who think that this ban affects adult material but it doesn't. The issue is that potentially a helluva a lot more manga (and anime) can end up being labeled 18+. I believe most of the discussions here and on Sankaku are about just that.

Anyways, labeling a series 18+ that isn't really adult is a death knell to the series since its commercial viability is essentially gone. This law really is incredibly vague and just about anything can happen.

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» rakisei on December 16th, 2010, 2:46am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shintar%C5%8D_Ishihara
He's out of national politics so how could he mastermind this? o.o

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» Crenshinibon on December 16th, 2010, 5:29am

It's a metropolitan ordinance, or something along those lines. Only valid within Tokyo's specialized city limits- it's not integrated with national politics.

People love freaking out for no reason- this law isn't going to do much of anything in the long run, it'll just get a couple ignorants riled up because they fail to adequately understand the system and the fine print. The publishing industry is definitely justified in their opposition to the law, it's just that even if it receives some mild enforcement, nothing's actually going to disappear or anything, least of all the parts of the industry that actually make money.

Ishihara's batshit insane though admittedly some of his earlier novels are decent, but it's just a token move.

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» Chidongan55 on December 16th, 2010, 2:50am

How about we make one ? Though its gonna be meaningless against the law. Just to show em' how we people serious about some stuff.

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» Panda on December 16th, 2010, 4:35am

Japanese politicians, especially those in Tokyo, will not give a rat's ass about the opinions of foreigners.

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» Chidongan55 on December 16th, 2010, 4:46am

And that's why, I've said meaningless. Though, its not gonna hurt to make one, is it ?

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» kazemomo on January 10th, 2011, 10:59pm

actually, they should. most of their income (i think) is mostly on anime and manga that shows violence and/or sexual drpicts. japan is widely known for their entertainment of these things. if they started to censor so much, their income might go down and people would run out of jobs.

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» pyonk on December 16th, 2010, 5:25am

WTF with this all censorship things?
after the threat to freedom in internet by censoring internet by upcoming law, now my only one reason for me to life; Manga and Anime, there will be a censorship in it, too?!
good. 2010 really a dark year for otaku internet user sad

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» woxxy on December 16th, 2010, 5:46am

The news you gave are partial. It doesn't remove violence, rape, homosexuality etc.
It just bans the spectacularization of them. Also, series won't have to be banned: each series will be given at most 6 recalls per year, after which the company will get an official request of self-regulation.
That means companies will have to give an appropriate rating to their series, and won't have to remove them.

Here are some links to get more indepth and unbiased information:
http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/bill-156s -total-scope/
http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2010/12/15/tokyo-a ssembly-passes-bill-156-anti-anime-and-manga-bill-is-now-la w/
http://foolrulez.org/blog/2010/12/the-loliban-approved-in-j apan/

Please, stop spreading misinformation. Even though this bill has a negative impact, doing this is just provoking mass hysteria.

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» Chibi-Chibi on December 16th, 2010, 6:10am

this -.-;;

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» achyif on December 16th, 2010, 3:37pm

gahahaha overexaggeration+misinterpretation much?
it is, for the most part, a reasonable bill.

but you can see that the japs have been living in a thicker bubble then we have :3
hopefully it won't affect the manga industry too much

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:44am

Each serie 6 times? I heard a company could publish 6 mature series for a year. I hope you're right! Sorry, what means removing spectacularization? If that means explicit scenes so then all yaoi/yuri/hentai are spectacularizations? I didn't understood well, my English is not that good.

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» Plate on December 16th, 2010, 5:47am

I would expect this type of fallacious scaremongering and exaggeration from sankaku complex, but not from mangaupdates.
Perhaps you should educate yourself on the reality, maybe by reading a real news source, before urging others to act.

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» Narse on December 19th, 2010, 2:09pm

THIS.
Spreading this kind of sensationalized disinformation is a disservice to the community. I am extremely disappointed in MU for giving such blatantly false[1] misinformation such prominent display on the front page. You should be using the front page to disseminate information that contributes to the edification of the community. Posting about this law could have been a great way to do this, but you choice to publish this misguided (and I'm being generous by leaving it at that) call to action is inimical to this goal. This entire event reflects poorly on MU, its staff, and especially the author of the letter. You all should be ashamed. I hope in the future MU will decide to rely on more accurate sources of information.

Footnotes:
1: I was going to point out that the claim that the law makes owning, creating or selling the affected series illegal is PATENTLY FALSE, but then I realized that there is hardly any accurate information in this barely coherent letter. The only thing the author managed to get right is the fact there is a new law about offensive content. All the claims as to its effects made here are COMPLETELY BOGUS. I find myself re-amazed that MU would even take the time to print this spurious drivel.

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» eirini_kl on December 16th, 2010, 8:09am

After reading all this, it seems to me that the gist of the new law is that in Tokyo the anime, manga, etc. that are addressed to minors will be evaluated by a committee and that there will be more strict criteria in order for them to be classified 'suitable for under 18'. This does not mean that those series that portray sex, homosexuality, violence etc. will be banned, just that their publishers will be obliged to rate them R18. Of course that might have a negative impact on the publishers' target groups under 18, but come on, it's not like it's impossible for minors to buy R18 manga or DVDs. Here in Greece buying porn magazines and DVDs is prohibited for minors too, but there's not one of my friends who didn't get his hands on them before 18. What I mean is, all the publisher has to do is rate the series in the gray area as 'adult', and there ends his responsibility. Besides, the bill is kind of vague and I believe it's still rather subjective which series are 'sexually stimulating' or whatever, and anyway it really is up to the classification committee to decide that. I do hope they will be less conservative. And finally, laws can change, or never be actually enforced even after they are passed, if the political costs are considered too high (that happens a lot in Greece too). If enough pressure is put by the industry, there is a high chance of this law never being actually enforced, especially since the governor who pressed for it is leaving soon (hopefully he won't get reelected). If it does get enforced though, its effect will probably be that the publishers will have to rate more series as R18 than before, and promote more 'innocent' series for publication, especially those publishers whose target groups are mainly minors. But really, defining what is 'healthy for the young' is not as clear-cut as it might seem at first. For example, in a country like Japan with its long tradition in martial arts, what constitutes depiction of 'excessive violence'? And isn't there in so many stories a villain character who commits sexually-related crimes? The bill says that it's prohibited to depict those acts in a 'glorifying' way, not that they can't be mentioned at all. And will a manga or anime be judged as a whole, or by separate scenes? There are many questions like that, and it seems to me that this classification committee will have their work cut out for them, that is if they take their job seriously and not just condemn manga or anime indiscriminately.

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:38am

As a buddy said, once passed a law labeled "minor's protection" can't be removed or changed. They use the kids again.:/

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» deadphoenix on December 16th, 2010, 8:51am

I hope the good stuff will still continue outside the Tokyo area, I will die without Deadman Wonderland.

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» .:Aerith:. on December 16th, 2010, 9:04am

Maybe it's like some of you are saying, that this is all an exaggerated alarmism but some editors, to be on the safe side, are starting to request to their mangaka to not use certain theme, like it's happened to the yaoi mangaka Takaku Shouko that was requested to not use school boys or the fact that aready published manga will not be reprinted because they contain explicit sexual scene O.O

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» saydrin on December 16th, 2010, 11:06am

..the next step is to ban innovative and creative movies and stapling metal shields to your mouth due to potential obscene language and fantastic ideas. After that, binding arms and cuffing fingers will ensure that no profanity or monsters are created. And last but not least, cementing feet to the floor---we wouldn't want anyone else enabling a potential molester or murderer with their ideas and free speech.

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» Name-Undecided on December 16th, 2010, 11:47am

So in effect, what we'll lose is: Violence, Sex, Crime, Homosexuality, Ecchi manga, any student/teacher, incest, age gap, and most shoujo series? I can live with that. In fact I want to live with that. Where do I sign up to support this law?

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» firestalker on December 16th, 2010, 12:41pm

So you want about 95% of manga and anime to disappear?

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» Name-Undecided on December 16th, 2010, 1:11pm

95%? You must be joking. 95% of the stuff YOU read, maybe.

Not to mention the law supposedly only applies to Tokyo, not the rest of Japan. It won't mean squat.

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» firestalker on December 16th, 2010, 2:14pm

Name of few of the manga and anime you read and bet you I can find at least one thing in it that could make it fall under this law... Try it...

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» firestalker on December 16th, 2010, 2:14pm

Name of few of the manga and anime you read and bet you I can find at least one thing in it that could make it fall under this law... Try it...

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» Mushu on December 16th, 2010, 2:21pm

I don't agree with you; even the most basic shounen manga like dragon ball has violence. Only a handful of shounen manga would survive this; thing is, If this bill is only in Tokyo it's meaningless, publishers will find a way around it if they are forced to like owning servers in a suburb of Tokyo and then hosting all their manga with a subscription fee and online viewer.

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» marriland4215 on December 30th, 2010, 8:45pm

uh it actually quiet true that it is affected mostly around 90% of manga cuz most manga conatin violence if not then romance most of them contain ecchi or supernatural

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» hollabaloo on December 17th, 2010, 12:45am

You may not mind it if those things were banned, but that doesn't mean the law is right. It's not all about you, y'know.

"So in effect, what we'll lose is: violence, sex, crime, homosexuality, ecchi manga, any student/teacher, incest, age gap, and most shoujo series?"

(Emphasis mine) What's wrong with homosexuality in anime/manga? I don't see why it would be a problem unless you're a homophobe. :/

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:10am

Exaclty! He is! Did you read how Ishihara calls them? "Defect" ppl.:/

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:11am

As long as any sexuality exist in the real life it has a place in the manga/anime too,

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» veve on December 18th, 2010, 2:09pm

I meant Ishihara here but now I mean the original poster too.:/

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» veve on December 18th, 2010, 2:06pm

You approve the GLTB ppl not to be mentioned in manga/anime? No doubt you're a homophobe, maybe you'd support they to be put to death too in the real life?

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» thekusanagi on December 16th, 2010, 11:49am

I think that this is just a way to try and see the public resonance on this provocation. Like, if they want to try and add the censorship, they will do it gradually. What would happen after a hundred of similar laws? Or ~3-5 and then BAM! the huge one will cripple the industry?

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» asrodeia on December 16th, 2010, 3:59pm

are you serious? this doesn't seem possible.. also, i didn't see anything about it on Kadokawa's site...

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» veenav on December 16th, 2010, 4:21pm

this is the birthday present i am getting in my birthday which is today from my favorite country next to us, japan which i thought contained all the joys of the world for all the male and female otakus in this world. so are they canceling all the anime channels and currently publishing manga and anime which is thought to be containing any kind offensive material?

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» ot4ku on December 16th, 2010, 5:10pm

Hello, i read in the last days mostly every news about this bill, but something is not clear to me, maybe someone can help.

So if a publisher has more then 6 unhealthy mangas per year they can get in trouble right? And its forbidden to have incest, loli stuff right?

So my question: Does this only affect "non Adult" Mangas? I mean Loli Mangas for example by Akane Shinsha = Tenma Comic LO Mangas are always labelt 18+, so this will not affect them?

Thats the only thing that im not clear, cose if it really only affects non Adult stuff then the law dosent even do much for me, even when its sad for normal Mangas.

Can someone make this clear for me? thanks

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» Crenshinibon on December 16th, 2010, 5:57pm

It only affects non-adult material by threatening companies with an 18+ label. When it's sold in Tokyo. That's all.

It's nearly impossible for enforce properly- after six offenses a company is given a notice to "self-regulate" which can still be safely ignored.

Not to mention that it doesn't change the industry outside of Tokyo, and that somewhat taboo subject matter has to be repeatedly judged "glorified" as just by a committee of retiring politicians who don't give a damn about their jobs and probably can't be bothered to evaluate a given text more than once to begin with.

This is just hyper-sensationalized by a couple indignant fans who don't really understand the law at all.

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» ajcoolim107 on December 16th, 2010, 6:42pm

so evry author can move out of tokyo and continue to write so can the anime studios right?

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» Crenshinibon on December 16th, 2010, 7:08pm

The law only affects sales and distribution in Tokyo. It doesn't actually matter where they're based, honestly, they can still produce the same material within city limits as long as material found by this board to be in violation of the law is properly labeled 18+ when sold.It's actually rather difficult to enforce (especially considering the ultimatum comes in the form of "self-regulation") within the law's parameters and will probably only happen in extraordinary cases.

In other words, assuming some store actually carded a kid in Tokyo, he could take the train 20 minutes to another prefecture and buy it there without problems.

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» HoshiRyo on December 18th, 2010, 7:07pm

If a store cards a person in Japan, no less in Tokyo, it's probably time to start preparing for the end of the world...

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» ot4ku on December 21st, 2010, 3:21pm

Only bad thing is AKIHABARA is in TOKYO.... time to move Akihabare to other City?
By the way is Comiket also in Tokyo? I hope they dont get in touble...

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» HoshiRyo on December 22nd, 2010, 1:46am

I don't think you understand.

They don't card in Japan. Ever. Booze? Cigarettes? Pr0n? Sex toys? They don't care if you're legal to consume them when you buy them. They'll just assume you're buying for somebody who is of age. (And yes, minors in Japan aren't supposed to have any of those.)

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» dosetsu on December 16th, 2010, 6:45pm

I like how people think Japan is not a conservative country, and have been lead astray by believing the things they see in Anime and Manga.

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» RhinoX753 on December 16th, 2010, 6:50pm

Well Otakus can form a political party, get publishers and community as their support, take majority during next election and reverse the damn thing...

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» ringo_suki_desu on December 16th, 2010, 6:57pm

nNt sure what we can do to support the anti-ban, but my friend just formed a group in facebook(Anti-Manga Ban), hopefully it will have enough members, then we'll send the group's link to the link you've posted in support to Kadokawa... >_<

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» makadze on December 16th, 2010, 8:01pm

yeah there is no need for such a law like that. if they want a boundary betwen right or wrong, there are one within our self. lol

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» Pikapu on December 16th, 2010, 9:06pm

Goodbye yaoi. I never liked you anyway.

"The mastermind behind this is Tokyo Governor Shintarō Ishihara, who blatantly shows no care for the illustrated entertainment industry. He claims that the law is to protect the youth of japan, yet he himself is the author of a series of schoolgirl gang rape novels."
...Lol. Gotta love irony.

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» Sari90 on December 17th, 2010, 6:51am

Lol! What? Sorry to burst your bubble, but this affects shoujo and shounen mangas, not yaoi. It's for 18+ anyways.

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:21am

But in the same article here it is said yaoi will be affected. Or the author mean the under 18 yaoi girl fans, not the old fangirls like me (36)?

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» Sari90 on December 17th, 2010, 9:32am

I have read other articles about this and I think all of this applies to genres that are aimed at a younger audience that are below 18 years old, like Shounen and Shoujo. This will not affect the people like you and me who are 18+, at least from what I read.

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:37am

Thank you! I hope very much! I was scared bc in the main post here it was said this will affect (gasp) yaoi which is 18+ originally (the sentence "Yep, girls, your yaoi too"). In that point now it might mean the underage yaoi fangirls.

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» Sari90 on December 17th, 2010, 9:54am

You're welcome! lol! When I first read this, I was so scared and confused too, but then I read this article(which is full of misinformation) and other ones as well as some of the comments. This law just means that things with violence, sex, crime, homosexuality, etc. will have to be labeled 18+ because it would be a bad influence on their younger (17 and below) people.

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 10:18am

Thank you again!^^ Labeling is not banning! The fake articles almost caused me heart-attack!

I'm not agree with them the sexual related (all kind of sexuality) things have a bad influence. On the contrary, the missing of good sexual culture make youths so aggressive and complexed. It is like to hide them from the human nature. Also not every love manga is with sex scenes, yaoi and yuri are different from shounen-ai and shoujo-ai.

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» kazemomo on January 10th, 2011, 11:18pm

it's funny because most of the famous mangas out there that's circulate everywhere has violence in it, such like Naruto and Bleach. if they were to put those 18+ then there would be a major crisis for kids 18 down. those type of mangas were aimed at minors anyways. wouldn't it be funny if a manga was talking about how bad drinking is for a minor (and that's it) be labeled 18+?

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:07am

So because YOU don't like yaoi that means it have not to exist? You think only things you like worth to exist?

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:08am

Or even GLTB ppl to not exist?

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» 98abaile on December 17th, 2010, 3:27am

The law only pertains to manga aimed at under 18s. All that will happen is that titles that fall foul of this law will get an 18+ certificate and the world will keep on spinning.

If anything this will mean that those of us who really do read manga for the plot, will not have to suffer the excessively gratuitous violence and thinly veiled pseudo porn that blights and stereotypes modern manga and those who do read the above mentioned, will not have to try and justify it as legitimate reading material since it will have a mature rating anyway.

Stop panicking, stop bitching and stop spreading misinformation; this is a good thing for western readers.

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:05am

You mean mature manga with characters over 18 is allowed? I thought he bans the whole genres.

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» shaggievara on December 18th, 2010, 4:40pm

Huffpo says "Tokyo is implementing new restrictions on the sale of anime films and manga comics depicting sex acts such as rape and incest, the AFP is reporting. A new bill, proposed by conservative governor Shintaro Ishihara, bans the sale of such products to anyone under the age of 18. Specifically, the bill wants to prohibit depictions of 'sexual or pseudosexual acts that would be illegal in real life or sexual or pseudosexual acts between close relatives whose marriage would be illegal.' " And I feel greatly that huffington post, however leftist is presents itself, is a better news source than sankakucomplex.


To be honest, I don't like to see rape in media, and though I am not some super-conservative-no-incest-ever type of person, it is such a small percentage of most genres that I could live without it. Especially considering how rarely it is tastefully done.

And if we are going by this information, BL/GL yaoi and yuri shouldn't be changed, as almost all yaoi and yuri is already labeled as 18+. The governor may be against homosexuality, but that is an opinion. Rape and incest are actually illegal. Therefore BL/GL without sex shouldn't be rated 18+ unless it contained violence or something else 18+worthy. In case no one knew, homosexuality is illegal in quite a few countries (mostly in africa and the middle east, and some parts of asia) but not in Japan.

I may be wrong on something, so by all means, berate me all you want if I am, (because this is MU, and I doubt many here are capable of reasonably pointing out my misinformation without being rude.) But remember there is also the fact that so many people seem to keep overlooking. This ban only applies to Tokyo.

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» veve on December 19th, 2010, 4:40am

Thank you for the reply! But what is about that (self-)regulation thing? I think the labels exist now too. This law add the term regulation and that the politicians can intervene if they estimate this regulation is not done well in their opinion. This matter is very vague, is it just labeling (which applies now too) or a real ban of "non-regulated" in their visions thing. This stuff is so unclear bc they could ban every manga they don't like.

If everything depends of if something is legal in the Japanese society or not then this law doesn's target BL/GL and hentai if they don't contain rape/incest/underage characters.

The ban is abt Tokyo but this is a heart of this industry.sad

It may be an opinion, as well as his words about foreigners, otaku and old females. But one person in Dan's Blog said that if in Korea a politician speaks openly againts transgendered ppl, gay ppl etc. he/she would be punished hard for defaming.

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:20am

But then if something (like yaoi) is 18+ in its origin won't be affected? But in the same post here it is said yaoi would be affected. I already don't know what to think. So much different informations exist!

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» Jeoxx on December 17th, 2010, 3:59am

I don't know if it's come up here, I don't have time right now to read through the comments.

As I understand it they want to censor it because they are a bad influence on children. Wouldn't that mean that the law is aimed at anime and manga for children? The adult series are for adults, maybe the goal of this is to keep the adult manga and anime away from children.
In that case there shouldn't be any major problem for publishers.
That's how it looks like to me atleast.

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» MewMan on December 17th, 2010, 5:12am

so basically anything isn't 18+ but has inappropriate content for young readers will be labelled again right?
or will they be banned?
sorry but I can't clearly understand this new bill with my English

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:03am

Please, tell me it is only abt Tokyo! So that not mean exactly end of mature manga but its (possible) end in Tokyo! I feel so terrible! My poor yaoifangirl heart!
Ishihara doesn't worth to be caled a politician. He offends GLTB ppl in public but from another side he writes abt gang rapes. No more comments are needed.:/

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» veve on December 17th, 2010, 9:16am

Also will this only apply if a manga is not labaled 18+.
So much info from so much places! It's a real mess in my mind!

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» Jeiel on December 17th, 2010, 11:31am

Not much will change, though I won't ask anyone to stop worrying. It's your privilege, and I envy the passion some show in their reactions.

I encourage everyone (truly worried) to research more about the actual ban law before jumping to conclusions.

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» ShadowSakura on December 17th, 2010, 12:11pm

Manga exist since the beginning of the last century. Yaoi exists since 40 years. And japans criminality wasn´t effected at all by this. They don´t forbid comics in the US, so why should they stop one of the most profitable things japan creates? Did he ever get to know how much money manga & anime make in japan and international?
This is madness!

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» kazemomo on January 10th, 2011, 11:27pm

he's trying to stop things like that in anime and manga, why doesn't he try to aim at real life pornoghaphy? minors likely have the same chance of getting their hands on p0rn as much as getting some anime or manga that's 18+.

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» U-Jin on December 17th, 2010, 1:59pm

I understand why would some people be so worried about this, because it WILL affect m&a industry somehow. And probably not in any good way, but i'm sure it won't be as tragic as many of You think.
No other choice but to wait and see.

P.S.: I still think japanese are weirdest beings this world has to offer tho. ^^

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» risa-desu on December 17th, 2010, 2:47pm

Wtf? Why don't thy just say they'll ban manga and anime all together? ._. Most manga and anime consin violence, etc.

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» neonkitty on December 17th, 2010, 4:20pm

so fckin stupid! D: wth?!

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» Akatsubaki on December 17th, 2010, 9:15pm

Quote from lambchopsil
The mastermind behind this is Tokyo Governor Shintarō Ishihara, who blatantly shows no care for the illustrated entertainment industry. He claims that the law is to protect the youth of japan, yet he himself is the author of a series of schoolgirl gang rape novels.


Yes, the law proved he was thinking with his ass. And he's Tokyo's Governor??
I'm sure he just want to get more money (illegal) or to raise his reputation. Politics, just the way it is..

Just a moment ago, we hate publisher because of scanlator issues, and now we support them for the sake of manga?
Life really is unpredictable.

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» meimeyrin on December 18th, 2010, 6:56am

Is this just applicable to Tokyo or all over Japan?

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» veve on December 18th, 2010, 7:09am

Fortunatelly it is forTokyo only.

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» meimeyrin on December 19th, 2010, 4:13am

Phew... I'm gonna die if the otaku culture is banned in whole Japan.
But hey Mister Governor, isn't otaku culture what made you popular? And I think there's no need to ban... all this time all was well.

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» ShadowSakura on December 18th, 2010, 7:59am

now he stated that people who produce materials like this and the people who read it have wrapped DNA! Someone call a doctor to check his head, i think this guy has gone insane.
Anyways, when will the nect primeminister of japan be voted? I hope the next one cancels this law as his first act as pimeminister

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» ShadowSakura on December 18th, 2010, 8:00am

sorry, i meant governor

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» veve on December 18th, 2010, 11:50am

Just read this statement of Ishihara:

“old women who live after
they have lost their reproductive function are useless and are committing a
sin.”

It is a sin to liveconfusedconfused And he's still a governor of Tokyo? This racist, sexist and homophobe?

Taken from here:
http://leejaywalker.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/racist-ish ihara-fails-to-get-2016-olympic-games/
http://leejaywalker.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/2016-oly mpic-bid-and-racist-governor-of-tokyo/

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» veve on December 18th, 2010, 12:02pm

What about old men (like him) that "have lost their reproductive function"? They don't commit a sin because "men are the higher dominating breed, which live to rule the world" and the "women are additions that become useless after they give birth to the children of the higher breed"?

To all men here: Sorry, I don't mean offend you but him. Just trying to see why he doesn't point "old men" too.

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» ShadowSakura on December 21st, 2010, 2:57pm

this guy is insane. in the middle-aged he would have been burned as witch.
no, seriously, how can someone be that stupid. he sounds like mao tse-tung who wanted to rot out all the sparrows in china, but then had to imprt new ones from russia since there where to many insects.
And wouldn´t that man he want to kill his wife now when she got old?

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» veve on December 18th, 2010, 12:38pm

~~~
Japanese Prime Minister Kan Naoto mentioned the boycott of Tokyo International Anime Fair (TAF) by manga publishers in the official blog and said "It's important to promote Japanese anime to the world as well as to maintain the education of children. I want the people involved to work together to avoid cancellation of TAF."
~~~

But what does this mean - he is againts the bill or he is against the boycott?

As long as the PM is a Democrate and Ishihara is Conservative I deeply hope he means the first.

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» Masterba on December 18th, 2010, 2:47pm

how about crossdressing? did they ban that too?

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» Baronofcheese on December 18th, 2010, 2:49pm

Does anyone know if they accept foreign donations?

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» sake4supper on December 18th, 2010, 9:01pm

and thus blooms a new underground market.

If people want or want to do something, they will legal or not.

=I

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» s2sari on December 19th, 2010, 4:56am

time to start publicizing via overseasconfused

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» Choreboy on December 19th, 2010, 7:40am

Honestly, I could care less. I don't really understand the bill that much, but from what I've gathered, they're trying to outlaw gay and lolicon genres from the shounen/shoujo demographic, or something to that extent, right? I mostly read seinen, so it doesn't affect me really, not that I'm interested in BL or seeing a little girl getting railed by her brother anyways. Anyways, it really seems like nothing will change. Maybe a few borderline H mangas will cease, but I really don't know of any shounen/shoujo mangas that depicts the "hardcore" sexual situations they want to get rid of. They're just trying to keep porn out of the hands of kids. I think. I'm not from Japan, nor do I speak the language, so I don't have any clue what's going on. It wouldn't bother me if they took out anything sexual from all manga, although that would make some series quite bland. I read manga for the story, not the T&A. The only thing I would miss is the sexually oriented comedy cliches, i.e. girl sees guys morning wood and freaks out, guy unknowingly walks into occupied shower and the person freaks out, etc). Aside from that, I could really do without the extensive bath scenes, the huge boobs everyone seems to have, and things like that. There is way too much fan-service in manga as a whole IMO. Nothing will really change I think. Just maybe a little added censorship. I think those who voted "Changes completely" read a bit too much ecchi and yaoi bigrazz

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» Sari90 on December 19th, 2010, 8:50am

Lol, this will not affect yaoi, since it if for 18+ anyways. It may affect ecchi though, since it is in shounen mangas, which is mostly for people below 18.

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» Sari90 on December 19th, 2010, 8:50am

is*

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» kazemomo on January 10th, 2011, 11:36pm

tuning down some of the ecchi stuff sometimes kills the mood of humor (when it's needed though). what if it was in there for a reason, but couldn't be put it in? then we would be missing some info. it might also effect the development between characters as well.

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» veve on December 19th, 2010, 9:10am

Don't forget that yuri is also a gay genre since it is abt same-sex couples too. Yes, I read much yaoi and no, I didn't vote Changes Completely.
He can't ban yaoi/yuri because being gay/lesbian is not illegal in Japan.

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» veve on December 19th, 2010, 9:17am

Also I think we should stay UNITED! I'm so bored reading opinions like "It doesn't affect my fav genres so I don't care!". It is immature. Noone can like everything. But not liking something doesn't mean to bash it. I don't read hentai and yuri but I defend them too, it is a question of principle, not of personal tastes.

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» veve on December 19th, 2010, 11:27am

According to the post in Dan's Blog Ishihara wants to reome eromanga completely because this way it would be absolutely sure it won't be bought by kids. Because the labeling now restricts but it is not sure in his opinion. But he doesn't have any proof the labeling doesn't work. This stupidness is like to kill a human ill from flu in order to be sure you kill the viruses.
http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2010/12/17/governo r-ishiharas-alternate-universe

I hope this is again a vague information!

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» veve on December 19th, 2010, 2:32pm

Sorry, it was a possible scenario. I'm sure he's willing to do it but then again it was a false alarm. Sorry again!

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» EricGN on December 19th, 2010, 4:51pm

Does this mean...there's no Kodomo no Jikan anymore!? FUCK YOU Ishihara!

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» alexdhamp on December 20th, 2010, 3:15am

Hmm..you know..how come Naruto hasn't been stopped, yet? If this law is true, then shouldn't it fall under being "illegal" now, as it depicts teenagers killing and getting killed? Many Shounen should be getting canceled and recalled if this is true..

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» kittkatt90 on December 20th, 2010, 7:33pm

Just completed sending Kadokawa my support submission, but I think I wrote Ishikawa instead of Ishihara. lol

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» veve on December 21st, 2010, 4:09am

I'd even write Ishithara.biggrin

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» animegirl101100 on December 22nd, 2010, 2:58am

im terrified that this is going to afftect my life sad i dont want this to affect my manga and my anime is it for sure going to ban almost everything that is manga which is their basic industry sad god i just feel sad is all

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» veve on December 22nd, 2010, 4:47am

Don't panic very much, it is still vague. I'm extra angry too bc I spent my free time reading manga. We have to wait to see what is exactly this law about.

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» Manike on December 22nd, 2010, 5:20pm

Wait, this might sound stupid, but I'm really confused..so does this mean manga like one piece, kuroshitsuji, etc, are gone? bye bye?

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» Amitielle on December 23rd, 2010, 5:54am

I really want to see how will this affect their economy. Because, let's face it: manga/anime is an industry and it provides money for Japan's economy. Ok, and let's kill yaoi, ecchi and teacher/student relationships. But what about real porn and hentai? This is absurd. Not to mention the fact that people start learning about Japan from anime and manga. No violence? Ok, no more Sailor Moon and Naruto, right? Because they are so violent...omg, I almost destroyed my entire childhood because of Sailor Moon...such a violent anime. Bullshit. Really, what the heck are they thinking?

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» veve on December 23rd, 2010, 6:32am

Why yaoi, ecchi and teacher/student relationships to be killed? Or you just give an example but not wanna this?

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» Sari90 on December 23rd, 2010, 7:55am

Yaoi will not be affected as it is for 18+ anyways. But I really don't know what will happen to ecchi and the student/teach relationship thing.
Anyways from your comment, I'm guessing that you mean it would be absurd to ban yaoi, ecchi, and student/teacher relatioships, but not hentai and real porn? Sorry the way you word it can get people confused on what you mean. I think the whole no violence thing is stupid too! That's like, 90% of shounen mangas.

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» veve on December 23rd, 2010, 6:34am

And why noone mentiones yuri, it is targeted too as long as it is with homosexual theme too. GL is in the same danger as yaoi and it is not even mentioned in the main post. IshiThara targets all same-sex couples, not only the male ones and I'm sure he targets gender-bender as well. And the industry is not only manga/anime, it is cd dramas, novels, magazines etc.

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» Sari90 on December 23rd, 2010, 7:57am

Yuri is for 18+ also, so that's not going to be affected either. smile

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» veve on December 23rd, 2010, 10:35am

What confuses me most is that almost all articles state that this is a ban of whole ero-genres/plots, no matter targeted to minors or adults, and you have to read tones of comments to see that it is labeling and no 18+ mangas would be afected. I wonder why then IshiThara puts that accent of the homosexuality as long as it is 18+ anyway. The same abt incest and age gap. My only conclusion is that he means no minor characters in mangas which are yaoi/yuri and incest/age gap. Also imo he can't forbid shounen-ai/shoujo-ai for minors as long as they don't contain smex. It is vague what this new law adds to the one that is in force now.

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» alexdhamp on December 24th, 2010, 10:32pm

Then what about BL and GL? And don't say BL is Yaoi and GL is Yuri..that's like saying Romance is Hentai...

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» veve on December 25th, 2010, 2:51am

Believe me, I perfectly know the difference between yaoi and shounen-ai. But IshiThara says "homosexuality" which means BL and GL and particulary gender-bender. We can see the differences but he as a homophobe generalizes everything under one label.

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» veve on December 25th, 2010, 9:10am

P.S. For the homophobes there's no matter if it is yaoi, shounen-ai or slash, as long as it is boy x boy it has their hatred and fall under one label. I get this conclusion when I saw much hateful comments in AnimeTake abt Uraboku (which is very soft shounne-ai). The ppl which read BL knows the difference inside of this term. But the homophobes put it under one label.

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» veve on December 26th, 2010, 7:27am

http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/monkey -business-counterattack-on-bill-156-doujin-style/

Imo IshiThara needs some Viagra to remember what a sex joy was. I'm sure that behind his anger is hidden one depressed impotent old man.

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» kazemomo on January 10th, 2011, 11:47pm

he's going against all of this, but i bet you at least once in his life and the others that support him have picked up something that depicts sexual content and/or violence in their lifetime when they were minors. they're men also, who could resist?

to other men: if this statement offends you i'm sorry, but it's faced towards HIM and his colleagues.

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» veve on December 28th, 2010, 6:16am

I get more and more the conclusion everything was a big mislead, I mean the content of the law that was described in some sites.. See Dan's blog, these are news from the same Japan:

http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/monkey -business-counterattack-on-bill-156-doujin-style
and especiall this comment:
http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/monkey -business-counterattack-on-bill-156-doujin-style/#comment -532

The comments describe best what the real danger is. Important for the adult-manga fans - the bill is not abt these titles. Imo we have to keep reading this site for best updates abt the law and to know what its real effect will be.

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» Sybear on January 1st, 2011, 10:16am

Sounds like the creator is just trying to cover his past. Basically he wants to make it seem like he is doing good and has changed his ways, unless Japan doesn't care about his novels... -_-

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» kyashi39 on January 1st, 2011, 2:08pm

omg!! instead of building laws that will create proper-awareness and time-worth bonding with "parents and their children...they're (trying to?) make such law that will surely make manga-anime-games industry go down?! wtf!! it's like making a law=no jobs=more families hungry//destroyed eventually =A=!!! tsk tsk tsk

you should go down along with your foolish colleagues Mr. Governor Shintarō Ishihara!!
shame on you and whoever goes with you!!
you're even a author of a series of schoolgirl gang rape novels?!!! geez such a hypocrite!!

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