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|New Poll - Earthquake
|In honor of the latest widespread natural disaster, I decide to come up with this poll. If you really have no clue what we're talking about, please go read the news in your favorite newspaper, website, blog, etc.
You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related):
Previous Poll Results:
Question: How much Japanese (or other original language) do you like in scanlations / bought manga?
None. The whole thing must be localized to my own culture - votes: 329 (2.5%)
Just the sound effects - votes: 403 (3%)
Occasional words (e.g., bento, sakura) - votes: 1379 (10.3%)
Stuff that doesn't translate well (e.g., honorifics, culture, names) - votes: 8010 (59.7%)
As much as possible while still being readable to you - votes: 3043 (22.7%)
Completely Japanese - votes: 246 (1.8%)
There were 13410 total votes.
The poll ended: March 12th 2011
Looks like most people lean toward the side of leaving manga in its original form. I support that too.
|Posted by lambchopsil on March 12th 12:54pm
Side-eyeing the hell out of fifth option and how many votes it has so far... <_<
Some friends and family are in Japan but they're all okay since the areas they were in weren't that deeply affected. My mother is continuing to update me on what's going on there whenever she can.
Kind of not surprised, given how people responded to the quake in the (now locked) thread >_>
It's still disturbing to see that a quarter of us seem to prioritize our personal entertainment over the well-being of others.
I live in Japan. I STILL Prioritize my personal entertainment over the well being of others. I'm Just saying.
In fact, This earthquake is going to cause me more work. Thanks Mother Nature for giving me the Big-D
well i'm glad to know that you are the lower rungs of humanity. what type of response do you want to your comment.
I wanted exactly that type of response. Because while I BITCH about it, I'm still gonna be there on ground zero helping to fix it.
What are you gonna do? Sit on your ass and complain about how terrible people are about not being super sad over something that probably doesn't have any effect on them? Well sorry for being human, and not being a saint like you.
lol actually i won't just be sitting here and complaining. But nice try.
You don't have to be a saint to have basic empathy for other people. Just saying.
Let me guess... Engineer?
Here comes my Humanitarian Service Medal.
i came in here to make the exact same comment. Seriously I was going to 'side-eying the hell out of ya'll' but really I am.
I mean seriously?
THIS. If you're gonna be insensitive, at least keep it to yourself -__-
idk about others, but for me the last option appeared as an alternative wording of the 4th option
[o.O I didn't expect that emoticon to be "translated"]
That thread has been locked, btw.
But i lived the Chile earthquake last year
glad you are okay from that.
My husband has a friend that lives out there and he's okay so that's a relief. Otherwise I'm glued to the BBC feed tracking the after shocks and nuclear reactor situation.
I'm not surprised at how many people are clicking the manga releases option. Some of them are probably just 'hehe this will get a rise out of people' and some of them genuinely only care about their manga releases. The same people who are probably the first ones to say. 'Sure X has carpel tunnel or is in the hospital, but when is their manga going to come out?' A+ on basic human compassion guys.
I don't want to share the earth with some of you selfish people but i'm not surprised. People think about themselves, and if something happens to them they want others to think about them too.
I'm not surprised considering how the thread went, but nearly a quarter of people voting for THAT option?...
Fine, if people don't sympathise with strangers - a shame, but oh well. What's more disconcerting is the way some of us are prioritising certain matters over human life.
I'm not sure that option should have been included. I mean what was the purpose, to show that about 25% of the people are lower than pond scum? This is a terrible disaster with thousands of missing people, after shocks of the quake still occurring, another tsunami is not out of the question and the Japanese are struggling to keep several nuclear reactors from failing. This will be a tragedy for many families and I think the emphasis should be kept on sympathizing with those people.
If i saw the scene on the tv, i really want to curse God why He let it happened.. But i'll still pray for the livings to be safe n sound. And for the depart souls to Rest In Peace.
Curse God? It's called judgment. If you think about it, we are pretty horrible tenants.
I choose the "no one I know", because I've never been to Japan before, so I have never met them personally, but that doesn't stop me feeling sympathetic.
I'm honestly perturbed at the high ranking that fifth choice got.
Really, manga and anime have a higher value than peoples lives? And what if your favorite manga happen to end because of them losing their lives because of said-earthquake and said-tsunami triggered by said-earthquake? Are you just going to whine and complain, or are you actually going to start feeling something called "sympathy"?
This is a site for manga, not for sympathy.
I have a lot of international friends/people I know. I know of at least 2 that I communicate with on and off that are okay.
I don't personally know anyone who was affected by the Tsunami in Japan though a friend of a firend of a friend is looking for someone in the Sendai area.
As for the Tsunami...there is localized damage in Oregon, California, Peru, Chile, and Indonesia that I know of.
I'm a bit of a news nerd so I've cultivated a few lists of where to get information. It's too big to put there but:http://akuma-river.dreamwidth.org/402311.html
(my journal post)http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_political/7881735.h tml
<- live-post where I'm posting relevant tweets
It's hard to listen to NHK http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/index.html
or Al Jazeera or Russia Today and not break down in tears as you realize the scale of the damage and the death toll.
I don't think it will be as high as Sumatra's Tsunami...but there are entire villages just gone. The Tsunami went inland 10km in some areas.
This week I've been following the Arab World Protests, Libya's masacre, Wisconsin protests, WikiLeaks, and now Japan's earthquake/tsunami/nuclear power plants meltdown.
This is just...I often find myself having to take breaks from watching the news and reading newspaper live-blogs on it because it gets to you.
Btw estimate death toll >10,000
I'm not sure the casualties would be that high, prob around 1000-3000. I was awed by how the response and preparation for years could prevent more casualties from the tsunami. There are losses and i give my condolences, but wth put the fifth options anyway. Some people will surely pick that options anyway because this is a manga site, doh.. Except if Fukushima nuclear reactor do explode in a big way like chernobyl i think the casualties would remain in those range.
1 people die is a tragedy, 1000 die is just a statistic...... Stalin.
The death toll is only for now 2000. But the government can't get in touch with 10000 of the 17000 that live in Minamisanriku, they are "only" considered like missing people.
Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm keeping tabs on the Japanese news networks and people I follow from Japan and there is at least 3 different sites in which hundreds of bodies are washed up. Offical death toll is now about 687 but that is those who are counted. Not the estimate.
This was a 9.0 earthquake that created a massive Tsunami that has sent damage to Hawaii, California, Oregon, Peru, Mexico, Chile, Indonesia... Japan had about 10-30 minute warning.
This tsunami was going 500mph. A wall of water of 10m height in some places. Parts of the Tsunami swept inland about 5-10km. That is about 2-5 MILES INLAND.
There is square MILES of land that are now under water. Look at the sat images of before and after.
Sendai has a population of one million and is one of the most damaged areas. At least 6 prefectures have massive amounts of damage that we are only seeing from ariel copters because there is no communication on the ground. Entire villages, towns, are just gone. Swept away.
I was being conservative with my estimate. I'm hoping more people got out in time...but looking at the damage, maps, and population indexes of the places hit. It is going to be high.
i wish 25% percent of you a holiday in Sendai.
so much apathy for the peoples suffering. i hope you choke your manga.
i give a shit about my entertainment right now. i just hope japan can get things under control without even more tragedies. however long it takes.
Honestly, the 5th choice is just
"No one I know" + "I read manga"
I don't really realise why people think this fifth choice is choking. I mean, I don't see much of a difference between the "No one I know" and the "I don't really know anyone but at least there is the authors of the manga I read who have a "relation" with me", hence, it'll lead to the result that you are indeed worried about those mangaka. Of course, the answer was spelled with "manga" (as in the physical, non-living object", but looking at it, I considered half of it to be of safety for the mangaka itself. And being actually worried about a person you know at least by name is about normal (I'm sorry to say that even if I feel sorry for all the unknowns people in Sendai, it's not much of a shock. Of course, I'll mourn, but if a mangaka I knew died, I would mourn a bit more for him. And just like that, if a person I personally knew died, I'll mourn even more for him. That's basic, humans aren't Saint, so you are "ranking" people depending on how you are related to same (as horrible as it may sound)
Well, of course, there is always straight stupid people who don't care about the well-fare of the people at all, and just really want manga, but I highly doubt it's those 25.7% people (and I would say, I don't care about it, it's not like I'm surprised about it). Well, this long post to say, that I'm actually more surprised at people being offended about it, there is no real need to.
Oh, and just to clear things on my side, I didn't vote for this, I'm in Tokyo and I quite felt it too. Though, sorry for the samaritan people, but I'm not going to do anything special other than continue my life, go to my school everyday, etc... I don't have at all the soul necessary for going to Sendai and helps the people there (and I don't consider that heartless at all)
If MU had a like button it would be for this post.
Thank you. I chose the fifth option, but in no way did I mean I didn't care about all of the people suffering from this. I interpreted it to mean "I don't know anyone there personally, but I am concerned about mangaka/other people in the industry whose works I enjoy."
I prefer to interpret the choices in an optimistic light. Otherwise it might be fair to say that choosing option two would be the same as saying "I know someone over there, so I'm worried about them and absolutely no one else."
Come on guys. Let's not be so ready to declare each other monsters
that is exactly what I thought I chose that option but I really care for Japanese people and I check the situation there everyday and I hope there all okay
you said someone personally involved, it can be understood as someone who involved in causing the earthquake. "do you know the earthquake perpetrator?" interdasting!
I was in that Earthquake. I live directly west of it. I have friends on the east coast who are still missing. My entire prefecture went without power for over 24 hours. I have more friends who are at risk from the nuclear plant exploding. My phone and internet were down for over 48 hours so I couldn't even call my family to tell them I'm ok. I have walked those destroyed streets in Sendai. Frankly, I am slightly disheartened by the number of people who's concern lies with manga releases. Thousands of people died! I know it's easy to b detached when you live on the other side of the world, but you could at least have the decency to pretend to care.
EDIT: Ok, I will concede that people who have sympathy for the situation but feel more attached to Mangaka are heartless for that, I admit that I too have been in that situation. My main point is that, as someone affected by the earthquake, who is worried sick about friends in Awate, Miyagi and Fukushima, as someone who lives in the affected area, with every body found I think "Is that one of my friends?". Seeing on the news places you frequently went to destroyed, it's shocking. So forgive me if it is hard to hear that some people care more about manga releases. If you do indeed feel some sympathy, then I forgive you for it. If you don't; I really don't want to know about it.
That should be aren't heartless, sorry.
I live in southern Japan at the moment, far from the eye. I didn't actually realize it at first, as the tremor was so small I thought it was only my body shaking or something. I realized it was a earthquake a few seconds before it stopped. And even after that, I just went to bed and sleep. Never realized it was a huge earthquake until my family back home skype'd me. Not really feeling the tension, I guess.
I live in SKorea and we're fortunate enough to have virtually no sismic activity. A lot of my friends live or stay in Japan, I got in touch with most of them, but there is still one friend I didn't manage to get in touch with and I'm worried.
For the rest of them who most of them live in Tokyo, other issues are starting from now. Food and water supplies are getting scarce, most of conbini and local supermarket are empty. Transportations are still hetic. Phone service is intermitent, as well as electricity in some areas of Tokyo.
And there's still the threat of nuclear damages.
I'll kept being worried until everything is back to normal.
I was in Sendai for a day and it feels so sad to think that all that I saw there doesn't exist anymore...
Show this poll to the Japanese and see how they think of the people in manga/anime community.
Hmmm I wonder by "I know someone..." can be consider as online friends and utaites living there (.__.) because I'm voting that. I feel like I do know them since I'm stal-- follow them on Twitter. It's so suffocating, this tragedy!
I know a family who affected, foster parents of my friend, they are at the refuge right now. I want to help them but dunno how
"Nope, but now all the manga releases could be affected
Is it real? 26.1% of the voters are worried for Japanese releases
Disgusting... Thousands of humans are now dead or missing... and quarter of people are worried because of manga...
What about humanity?
I haven't read all the posts but is it true that the creator of pokemon died in the quake?
I picked option 5 not because I'm a heartless piece of shit but quite frankly the only people I collectively know in japan are the creators of manga/anime/games thru their works. I don't know if this makes me sound callow or however you people feel like interpreting this but I can't pick option 4 because frankly just because I don't personally know anyone in japan I still $@#$@# care about the fact that people are dieing. I don't know any of them personally, however I still feel concerned to at the very least the people whose works I've read. So I say to all the commentators above me maybe not everyone is as callow as you believe and maybe that's just the only option we can select to make our concern know,
If i had said "no, but I hope my favourite mangaka are ok" or similar words, then I wouldn't have a problem, but the choice was "no but the manga releases might be affected", which implies you care more about getting manga than about the safety of those who write it. I understand that most people who chose that option do not feel this way, and have genuine sympathy for those affected, but the fact remains that it does say manga releases, not mangaka. That is why people are outraged. I'm sorry if you got offended by the strong words previously issued, but I live in Tohoku, this wasn't a terrible piece of evening news to me. As much as I love manga, when the next issue comes out is far from my mind atm, so even the implication that that is what people care about is, frankly, very disheartening and irritating to me. Again, this is not to say that those who chose that option think this, but the wording was not very good. It doesn't matter now since the poll had ended, but I wanted to explain from the POV of someone affected why option 5 angered people.
P.S - sorry for typos, my keyboard sucks. Corrections - 'If it had said' & 'wasn't just a terrible piece of evening news'