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New Poll - For an Essay
This week's poll is a little different. A member of ours, BokoLife, requested this poll as data to write a paper for a class at his/her university. No forum thread for this one.

You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related):
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: If you were in a manga, you would live in a
Choices:
Realistic world - votes: 3505 (24.6%)
Fantasy world - votes: 10728 (75.4%)
There were 14233 total votes.
The poll ended: November 5th 2011

No dragons in reality. Enough said.
Posted by lambchopsil on November 5th 6:56am Comments ( 97 )  [ View ]  [ Add ]
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» Kalamity501 on November 5th, 2011, 2:06am

Title says it all. I am hesitant to vote because I don't want my "no" vote to be interpreted as "I think Japanese people are morally inferior"
But if that is not the case, then I guess I will vote.

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» Aikanaro on November 5th, 2011, 3:25am

Anyone who votes 'Yes, and I'm not Japanese' is, I'd suspect, a weeaboo of the highest order. I hope you're basing your ideas on who's morally superior to who on more than comic books...

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» kawaiiusagichan on November 6th, 2011, 3:37am

*thumbs up*

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» Pionfou on November 5th, 2011, 3:47am

I'm interested what the paper is on so that such pointless poll results would become necessary. Anyone with half a brain would vote no. And it's not because Japan has committed some of the worst atrocities by mankind such as the rape of Nanking. But how could one possibly make a generalized statement such as morally superior in regards to a large entity like a country?

Of course, without defining moral superiority--if that is actually possible--the whole point is moot. More importantly, there is no specification what the comparison is. Unless taken in the context of racial supremacism--where the comparison would be implied to be everything--the term morally superior by itself is meaningless.

Furthermore, I would guess that the large majority of MU users have next to zero exposure to real Japanese culture (i.e. lived in Japan for an extended period of time). Therefore, the only real conclusion someone could draw from the poll is that most of the MU user base is able to differentiate between fiction and reality. Naturally, most people can make this distinction so the poll results are worthless.

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» JustPassingBy on November 5th, 2011, 4:01am

Well, what to say... this is probably the first poll on mangaupdates where there is actually a correct and three wrong answers. and everybody who's seen some of the more weird stuff (for example threatening seiyuu's who let themselves seen with their boyfriend, or any close male friend for that matter) in Japan should know the correct answer.

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» JustPassingBy on November 5th, 2011, 4:02am

oh, and don't misunderstand my post. I'm not saying that the japanese are morally inferior to everybody else. all I'm saying is that there are "good" people and people with really twisted concepts of morale in each and every society.

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» alexdhamp on November 10th, 2011, 2:14pm

So...you're generalizing the totality of the Japanese's morality based on the actions of crazy extremist otaku? That's like if the Japanese based their outlook on American morality by the actions of those responsible for the Columbine Shooting...it makes just as much sense.

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» RilleL on November 5th, 2011, 4:25am

The japanese has committed some of the worst atrocities in modern time, so no, I don't think they're morally superior, far from it... -.-

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» dosky on November 5th, 2011, 5:05am

Every country did bad thing.
Only the Japanese did it later do to the late industrial revolution, and for this it's weighted more.

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» naikan on November 5th, 2011, 11:52am

That's not the only reason it's weighted more...

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» StarlightDreams on November 5th, 2011, 2:51pm

lol what. I agree that they're not morally superior, but they're not morally inferior either. How can you generalize a whole ethnicity of people based on something like that?

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» darkraiders on November 5th, 2011, 4:50am

Ok i'm not someone who like to judge but when i see all the things japanese do i can think of them as morally superior at all.

Just the other days i saw on Siliconera how they wanted to start releasing game in public bathroom and the game would calculate how much pee a guys was peeing in millimeter and other shit like that if someone can seriously think they are morally superior after things like that i say they have something wrong with their head.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/10/sega-brings-gamin g-to-the-bathroom-with-urine-controlled-video-g/
a link to what i'm talking about since my english isn't really good i think this will explain better then me

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» bakaliner on November 5th, 2011, 4:59am

lol thats what i call that pure japanese creativity. Japanese never been morally superior, but i could say that japanese superiority is in creativity and perversion (by most world standard).

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» NightSwan on November 5th, 2011, 7:59am

lolwut

Good luck with that paper.

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» fossilblue on November 5th, 2011, 8:00am

I votes for "Yes and I'm not Japanese." Why?

Morals US vs. Japan.

Hurricane Katrina: Within hours there was looting, murder, rape and chaos.
Japans Earthquake: No murder, no looting. People were actually lining up (peacefully) for hours just to get a few litres of gas… Even the Yakuza were hading out food and water to the worst areas hit!

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» vietangelix on November 5th, 2011, 10:16am

....
It's not very wise to base your opinion of groups of people on just one or two event. That's how stereotypes happens.

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» krytorii on November 5th, 2011, 3:16pm

Japan has a massive infrastructure and training for the general public for how to act in these situations. In New Orleans one of the poorest areas were hit and no one knew what to do.

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» ZL11 on November 5th, 2011, 5:13pm

Yes... the nail that sticks out is hammered down and all that. I didn't bother voting; it was too broad a question. I'm neither Japanese nor a weebo, and I would guess the only way you could justify this question is by saying Japan is still a rather culturally homogeneous country and you're looking at the results as the way the world in general views Japan's morality. Japan is by no means the innocent little country most weebos think it is, but no country is since they are made up of people, so... although you can justify it the question, it's silly. Of course, the no looting thing seems completely foreign to most US-ians, since we see looting every single time there's a disaster or even a bad verdict (Rodney King trial, for example), so to those without real knowledge of Japan's crimes, it might SEEM more moral, especially to a US-ian. The Japanese are just as crusty with sin as anyone else.

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» kawaiiusagichan on November 6th, 2011, 3:35am

You need to be sent back in time to Asia during WWII and you're being annoying to half the world in Asia who had forefathers suffer/killed under the reign of your so-called superior race.

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» alexdhamp on November 10th, 2011, 2:20pm

Then I guess you should be sent back in time to experience what America did with the Native Americans...or the things we did in Vietnam... Japanese not perfect, but they're not the worst, either.

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» kawaiiusagichan on November 11th, 2011, 2:00am

I know, which is to say no race is superior or inferior.

And I'm Asian, anyway. It's laughable when every country has war criminals in WW2 except America, like they're all Gods or something.

Life is good right now!

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» alexdhamp on November 12th, 2011, 1:09am

Which is funny...considering the things America did to Japanese-Americans during WWII, right?

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» kawaiiusagichan on November 12th, 2011, 9:56am

Yeah. Tsk! Utopias aren't possible in real life.

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» aries_girl on November 5th, 2011, 8:05am

This poll seems kind of racist. If you vote yes, you're saying Japanese are better, if you say no, you're saying that they're lower. On account of that I'm not voting. Please don't put up racist polls.

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» dosky on November 5th, 2011, 8:32am

I don't think the "No" means they are morally inferior or anything...
It's like "Yes" equal to a +1, "No" to a 0, and not "Yes" +1, "No" -1

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» bakaliner on November 5th, 2011, 10:04am

And here comes a US moral standard that is always talk about racist or non racist value. Talking about moral standard are not racist, and speaking that someone is morally superior or not is not considered racist. Well US always feel that they are morally superior than the rest of the world (if you consider that most of them have a tendency that money are superiority. Ah I forgot, who export capitalization of everything to the rest of the world).

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» Darkmagick on November 5th, 2011, 12:55pm

You know, it's not good to generalize about the Japanese - but as someone from the US, I'd like to ask you not to generalized about us either. Sure, we definitely have more than our fair share of arrogant assholes who try to push their own version of morality on everyone else. But people like that exist in every single country in the world. As do people who are reasonable, likable people. People in the US tend to be overly sensitive about racism because we have a terrible history when it comes to that, and we don't want to slide backwards.

On a broader note, the entire concept of considering an entire country of people morally superior or inferior to another is total bullcrap. You can't make a judgement call on millions of people like that. Even if you're comparing two countries who you are extremely intimately familiar with, you still can't just decide that everyone in one group is "morally superior" to the everyone in the other. The concept of "moral superiority" in and of itself is highly subjective and mainly used to hurt, not help, other people.

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» aries_girl on November 5th, 2011, 1:41pm

For the record, moral superiority has nothing to do with money. America's economy's going broke, so good luck with them being "superior" under your definition. Perhaps racist wasn't the right term, but the implication of any group whether it be Japanese, or American being "morally superior" allows for oppression of the other group since if they're not superior, they're inferior since they aren't at the same level.

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» thevampirate on November 5th, 2011, 10:06am

this isn't racist, if the poll was are Japanese people inferior that would be racist. Even saying that one group is morally Superior over another isn't racist it just means that they have better morals. that said the US in general have terrible system of morals but the Japanese aren't much better (but they like to appear like they are). Look at Sumo its all about purity and it is full of corruption all the way up to the highest levels, people who publicly attempt to defame Sumo often mysteriously die. If the police cant solve a murder they often label it as an accident in order to keep their statistics up.

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» Epistasthai on November 5th, 2011, 5:18pm

The poll brings up the question of race or nationality ("Japanese") in the question as well as in each possible answer. If it wasn't meant to bring up race/nationality, then leave the term "Japanese" out in the first place, and re-phrase the question/answers. You can't have it both ways, on the one hand bring in race or nationality (by using the term "Japanese"), and then on the other hand say the issue has nothing to do with race or nationality. I am relatively certain the original intent had nothing to do with race, but it pays to be very careful with the wording of these things. (Of course, it is possible that this poll is simply a means of gathering information about how people react in online communities...)

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» MewMan on November 5th, 2011, 10:00am

lol i think
it's more interesting to observe and analyze voters' reactions
than their seemingly obvious choice

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» Ayreia on November 5th, 2011, 10:00am

The 17.7%, as of now, who voted "Yes, and I'm not Japanese"...just..no words. You can't tag an entire COUNTRY as morally superior/inferior.

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» HumanoidInterface on November 5th, 2011, 5:58pm

I just did.

Problem?

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» mayaya on November 5th, 2011, 7:28pm

*facepalm* i can't believe this

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» HumanoidInterface on November 10th, 2011, 6:18pm

He said I couldn't, I had to prove him wrong.

For science.

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» sarah-eats-cupcakes on November 11th, 2011, 9:43am

since when does science equal to morals?

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» HumanoidInterface on November 11th, 2011, 8:13pm

Either you lack basic comprehension skills, or you need to learn to read.

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» sarah-eats-cupcakes on November 11th, 2011, 10:06pm

or maybe....you're just a moron?

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» HumanoidInterface on November 22nd, 2011, 6:29pm

Must be nice to be this blissfully stupid.

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» sarah-eats-cupcakes on November 11th, 2011, 10:10pm

morality:
mo·ral·i·ty (m-rl-t, mô-)
n. pl. mo·ral·i·ties
A system of ideas of right and wrong conduct.

so you see, science and morals are not the same.

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» Crenshinibon on November 12th, 2011, 1:25am

Actually, you're beaten here because you totally misread the initial (albeit trolling) statement -_-;;.

He was told that he couldn't do something, i.e. it was impossible. So he did it, and therefore it was possible. That, technically, would fall under the umbrella of science.

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» magnet_dance on November 5th, 2011, 12:34pm

Sorry but this is incredibly stupid. People in the same country can have vastly different opinions on various moral issues. Depending on your views some things are done right and some things aren't. How can you just generalize an entire country like that?

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» im_uni on November 5th, 2011, 1:39pm

just to clarify: I vote for "no, and I'm not Japanese" because people everywhere are generally the same. There are many people with low morals, and many with high, and the most of us are... just plain usual. And all this quantity is randomly spread on the surface of our planet. Oh, and even more. What is moral? It changes with flow of time, and continues to change...

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» Crenshinibon on November 5th, 2011, 2:52pm

This is a bad idea. You can't use this for evidence in a paper, no one would accept the validity. It's an optional poll with biased sample. There's no way to use the data for anything based in reality. If I were professor receiving a paper with this data, I would mark down the student severely for attempting to pass off skewed results as unbiased fact. Unless, of course, it was specifically a paper about the patrons of mangaupdates, and even then, I would be highly skeptical.

Online polls do not produce valid statistics...

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» kawaiiusagichan on November 6th, 2011, 12:33am

I'll give you a hundred points for that statement.

There are morally upright people in every society.

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» alexdhamp on November 10th, 2011, 2:53pm

It's a poll. It can be used to gain some insight into how the general populations views something. Which *can* be used.. Then again, this isn't really general..as "manga readers" aren't going to be the general public.

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» Crenshinibon on November 11th, 2011, 11:39am

Valid polls are valid evidence.

This poll has far too wide a margin of error to even be considered a proper statistic. There are too many factors that can potentially impact the results. It's not a matter of the medium, but rather the methodology for gathering the data.

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» Pikapu on November 5th, 2011, 2:59pm

This... this is just awful. ._.

I mean... a UNIVERSITY paper...... Just... wtf!?!? Seriously!? =_=

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» Pikapu on November 5th, 2011, 6:17pm

Also, why no forum thread for this poll? A discussion over this topic would be much more lively and interesting than talking about a preference for a reality or fantasy world.

But basically, my opinion of this question is simply, "wtf?".

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» hollabaloo on November 5th, 2011, 3:56pm

The fuck? The fact that someone is actually asking this question makes my mind boggle. The Japanese are just people like the rest of us.

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» Epistasthai on November 5th, 2011, 5:04pm

Without knowing exactly what BokoLife has to write the essay about, I'm still going to say that the way this poll is framed comes very close to endorsing racism, one way or the other. I'd feel more comfortable answering a question about cultural norms and how morality is framed within these norms. (e.g., "Does the practice of Bushido encourage moral straightforwardness?" "What does moral straightforwardness mean in (whatever context)?" "Does Shinto place any moral advantage to "good" kami over "bad" kami?" and similar questions). I do not think any one particular culture holds the moral high ground (nor do I think any one particular culture holds the moral low ground). But I do think that there are good decent folk in any culture, and evil people spring up in any culture.

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» xria on November 12th, 2011, 9:38am

So does that mean you consider it impossible for any culture to on average encourage or discourage good/bad morality among its population (at any given time)?

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» rindtron on November 5th, 2011, 7:06pm

LOL, you serious? This poll... isn't this all just really subjective? The answers would defintiely differ depending on what values and behaviour each person is basing this "morality" on. Hnnngh, in other words, you can't measure morality on such a generalised scale and with such a limited sample group... the results will only be misguiding and superficial. In any case, it's probably better to establish a certain standpoint from which you'll ask this question from and then find cases/situations and analyse them to support your argument for such a complex question rather than use a poll like this...

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» cl123 on November 5th, 2011, 7:28pm

As someone else mentioned, good luck using this poll for your paper - there are so many biases to this poll from the people you are sampling to the ambiguity of the questions...it's not really good to use to expound on your arguments

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» Nirhtuc on November 5th, 2011, 9:33pm

Bahaha! What's with this week's poll?! Of course I voted no, because I don't believe any race is 'THE most superior race'- I think each race has inferior and superior qualities... the worst quality I think is thinking that your race is the most superior (*cough* 0.6% of us here *cough*)!

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» SOSAnimeBoy on November 5th, 2011, 9:59pm

The real benefit to this person's essay is probably coming from the comments being posted here than from the poll itself. The poll is just the conversation starter.

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» Pacific.Mint on November 5th, 2011, 10:28pm

Ha. How true that is.

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» BokoLife on November 5th, 2011, 10:34pm

I should clarify a few things.

This poll is not meant for any racist essay. Far from it actually.

The "no" answer is meant to mean "equal."

Why I would ask this question here, a couple of people understood pretty spot on. I actually like the discussion as to why, so... keep at it.

This question is part of a larger topic so don't think this question is the entire basis for my essay. Nor am I trying to validate the usage of this poll as any definite proof for anything.

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» Crenshinibon on November 6th, 2011, 12:35am

You can't use it as evidence, period. It has no actual relevance to anything based in reality other than the opinion of the small segment of MU users that likes to answer polls. Add in the fact that there's nothing in place to stop a person from voting twice, etc, and there's just nothing really here- there's not even really enough information to use as a discussion piece. Independent research is great and all, but you should know how to properly conduct it.

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» RoleOfAQS on November 6th, 2011, 5:01am

Actually, they can use it to show how the world views japan. It's not evidence of morals, but rather of perception here. For example, this era of moe and ero anime/manga has actually had a negative effect on how I for one view Japanese morals - sacrificing story and plot for... fanservice and perversion. Hell, even in their games. Given my exposure to Japanese media, while limited, this very much does affect my perception, and not for the better.

While there's always things in their culture that are to be respected - their reactions to natural disasters, as pointed out above - their media has a huge impact on how other view the culture. And it's becoming less and less positive as time goes one, in large part thanks to the current trends in manga, anime, and games.

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» Darkmagick on November 6th, 2011, 7:08am

There's a critical problem with that, though...The idea that the users of mangaupdates represent "the world". We're a very small corner of the world...

Also, there's the fact that it's not like it's just the Japanese who sacrifice plot for fanservice. Creators of fiction everywhere do it. Sad but true. (Especially if we include fanfiction in that.) And I think that's less immoral than...Lazy? It's taking the easy way out, because as we know, sex sells. Well, I guess not being lazy is often considered a moral standard, but whatever.

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» StarlightDreams on November 6th, 2011, 8:09am

MU does not represent the world, that's strike 1 of this being of any relevant statistic.

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» Crenshinibon on November 6th, 2011, 10:12am

You clearly haven't had to compose very relevant papers then. I'm not saying that you need a triple-regressive graph to have a relevant statistic, but you do need unbiased sample sizes that don't reply on a choice basis into a poll that can easily be answered multiple times.

The issue isn't the content of the question, but the medium utilized to obtain the data.

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» RoleOfAQS on November 7th, 2011, 2:03am

Put it this way then - this is site for people who generally enjoy Japanese culture and media. And yet, even then, the answers are overwhelmingly "No" so far. As in, by a 4:1 margin. And this, from a group that should be biased in favor of Japan.

If that's not telling, I don't know what is.

Now, it's important to note that the choices are: Morally Superior vs Morally Neutral. That is my problem with the poll - there's nothing there for those who think that they're morally inferior. You know... for things like this: http://kotaku.com/5856949/

We'd get a more valid result then. However, with the current choices, I'm gonna have to point out that even though Japan has the odds stacked in its favor on this site, the results are not favorable for japan.

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» BokoLife on November 7th, 2011, 2:09am

You can think the no is inferior if you want... Not what I care about.

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» RoleOfAQS on November 7th, 2011, 4:59am

No, that's exactly contrary to what I just said. Please read my post and try again.

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» Darkmagick on November 7th, 2011, 3:56pm

Umm...I don't think that this particularly says that Japan is just viewed terribly by lots of people...I think it's more like, just because we enjoy their media, doesn't mean most of us aren't intelligent enough to realize that the entire idea of thinking of *any* country as morally superior to another one is idiotic. (And thank goodness for that. I fear for those of the second option, currently at 18.5%...)

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» Crenshinibon on November 7th, 2011, 5:06pm

See, here's the thing. While your argument is totally logical, it's also impossible to certify. We can easily make the assumption that MU's userbase should be biased in favor of Japan, but we don't actually have any information to confirm that, so right there we step entirely into the realm of conjecture. Who knows (playing Devil's Advocate here), Japanese media could have left us disillusioned with the realities of true Japan while enamored with the fantasy version.

You also have to realize that these polls aren't locked. If memory serves, a person with a dynamic IP could vote in this poll as many times as they wanted. It's not like the polls here have ever had any real security issues, but that also means that the results of the poll are inherently subject to inaccuracy. All we can say is that given the current set of circumstances, with a biased choice-based sample group, we have this result. There's nothing that's telling because all of the information is suspect.

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» RoleOfAQS on November 8th, 2011, 10:27am

Alas, someone replies who understood my post.

Aye, while MU is most definitely not a site you can get an unbiased response to, the truth is still that this is a site that'd be more pro-Japan than a proper sample. Yet, the poll still produces a solid result against this "better morals". Even counting that margin of error you pointed out, the poll is solid evidence that even among a group of pro-Japan people, the trend is to say that Japan does not have better morals than other people.

My biggest problem with the poll, though, is that the options are between "Positive" and "Neutral", though. Though the results are quite telling, they're not well defined, as this means that both the "Neutral" and "Negative" opinions are grouped together. This, more than anything else, will skew the results unfavorably. If not for the 4:1 ratio of neutral to positive, you'd not be able to tell anything from the results.

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» naridas on November 9th, 2011, 8:57am

i just want to put smthing out, u probably won't read this, but i just felt like saying it.
before saying this a site for people who generally enjoy Japanese culture and media, shouldn't we assume before that most people who come to this site come from a middle class background since people who can access this site must have internet and free time. probably better to take a poll for household income to be more accurate. Anyhow by assuming this u will know that most people will say no cause you live in a developed country and an understanding of things that Japan have done in the past but also you would know morality is subjective. The only people who would say yes are either biased and believe japan is utopia right now, cause the only morally superior people living in a country would have obtain utopia by now (just my opinion) or misunderstood the poll cause it's so vague ( put some specifications... like modern age). If this poll was taken in an under-developed country or a country that is currently in a warzone or in an area with bad living standards, i believe most of them would say yes. So i find this poll pointless for that very reason. I do know im assuming a lot and my viewpoint isnt exactly valid either but just want to say this just to let people see it from a different viewpoint

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» achyif on November 9th, 2011, 8:06pm

I feel somewhat irked to be manipulated like that... But whatev, that's how you make I teresting conversation topic
I think you should have asked/looked at a more controversial issue, because IMO there are more and better arguements for japan being morally equal to other countries

but..... I'm still extremely concerned for that 19%. I'm PRETTY sure this community doesn't have many trolls so...........

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» goldshep on November 13th, 2011, 9:57am

You have several statistical problems:
1. MU is not the world.
2. MU is biased.
3. The choices are too vague. The no answer is missing the statistic, "neither morally superior or inferior" or "Inferior" You don't know which is which, because by the "No" they are conflated.
4. The poll *does* seem biased by wording, which pretty much throws out the entire poll as valid statistics. You get that in a 101 class. To do it properly you need to have a real random sample, and also have the order of the answers scrambled randomly every time. You can't have a person answer twice.

The poll is pretty much invalid. If you're doing this for statistics class, this would be a C (Especially for a university)... I would think. 'cause you didn't think about influences when you asked the question.

MU's polling is a horrible place to set up for a paper.

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» alidan on November 6th, 2011, 11:46am

how many stories about a teacher raping 20+ students comes out of japan a year?
lets also go with their continued push to get non censorship, censorship laws in place. lets go this way, i dont read the mangas most heavily effected, but they are non porn stories, that got labled as porn and were dropped from serialization, and stopped from getting tokibons (sp) out.

now than, any given day, there are how many school girls who will scream molestor, ruining the person life, when he never did anything, or worse trying to extort money.

now in america, we have a fer of the full berca wearing muslems, and of any muslem looking people getting on a plane. in japan, its common to see "no foreigner" signs in front of most shops, now, whether they mean it or, are just a way to keep out people who cant speak the language is something i dont know.

and lets make a stop off at prostitution, and the common family in japan.

if you are under 18 you get a pass when whoring yourself, as in noting happens to you, and its common that under age prostitute themselves because of that.

and the common family in japan puts so much pressure on people that suicide is one of the leading causes of death in japan.

morally, they are worse than america,
culturally, they took all the bad parts of america and are trying to see what sticks
but game and manga, there is enough interesting weird crap for me to like them

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» Crenshinibon on November 6th, 2011, 2:24pm

While you're not totally wrong, there are some factual inaccuracies here and there.

For instance, the "no foreigners" signs are mostly something you see at onsen up in Hokkaido where Russian sailors have historically caused a lot of problems. Okinawa presents similar symptoms as a result of various crimes committed by US soldiers over the years (rapes are the highest profile, but it's actually much more extensive, though the entire situation down there is rather parasitic). In fact, US military bases have actually caused an absurd number of problems in Japan over the years, and areas surrounding them tend to have significantly higher crime rates. That's not to say that US soldiers are inherently criminals, but the point is that the areas where the cultural crossover is greatest is also arguably the most morally ambiguous.

Enjokousai isn't necessarily prostitution, and I'm not sure how "common" it is beyond media excitement. Like the whole hikikomori scare from a few years back. It is true that the Japanese political system really doesn't care, though, and that law enforcement isn't about to do anything. Then again, show me a major US city without prostitutes.

I'm not quite sure where you got the idea that the "common family" is a cause of suicide. The rates are higher due to a number of different factors, the cause of which is still up for debate (generally people who make the "high pressure family" argument are going off the work of Benedict's The Chrysanthemum and the Sword which is an entirely fallacious piece of pseudo-anthropology commissioned by the US military and written without fieldwork). It might be interesting, however, to note that countries with significantly lower crime rates (and violent crime rates moreso) also have universally higher suicide rates. The US' crime rate is through the roof compared to Japan's.

There's not a moral inferiority on either side. That's the nature of morality. It's subjective.

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» alexdhamp on November 10th, 2011, 4:05pm

They're morally worse than America? Is that why our crime rates are far higher than theirs? Seriously only looking at the negatives of another culture(while ignoring our own) and omitting their positives..or just their culture on a whole..isn't the best way to consider this.

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» goldshep on November 13th, 2011, 10:07am

We are all 100% human. Regardless. Race does not equal another species. Period. That's it.

Culture may dictate how we judge morality, but it does not make us another species nor make one person better than another because of the color of their skin, sexuality, ethnicity, creed or what have you.

Besides, we all come from Southern Africa. No superiority in either direction. All countries have done horrible and good things because that's human nature. It isn't us v. them.

If you can mate (given the right sex), and your children can have children, you ain't better or worse than them. You are the same species. As the same species, you aren't better or worse as a group than another.

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» dwindling on November 6th, 2011, 4:41pm

The results of this poll aren't a good indicator since the subjects aren't randomized, self-select and are probably not representative of populations as a whole unless you want to specify them to just the visitors to this site. (And, even then, there's the problem of the population being self-selecting.)

You should probably either find a study or collect data yourself via randomization, finding people and all that jazz.

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» Milleniummaster18 on November 6th, 2011, 6:46pm

Last and second to last one, depending whether you're Japanese or not.

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» Turbophoenix on November 6th, 2011, 8:03pm

No culture or people are "morally superior". They may have different morals, etiquette, manners etc, but they're not "morally superior".

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» AndyProk on November 6th, 2011, 9:11pm

I suspect the data he's actually gathering with this are the comments to this poll xD.

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» gekokujou on November 9th, 2011, 3:16pm

Oh, we wish. But I wonder what would the real thesis sound like if it were the case. biggrin

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» anime_lover122488 on November 7th, 2011, 8:30am

Ok.. This must be one of the dumbest essay topics I have ever read. Whoever gave you/thought of this question, I really hope you pick a different topic if you can. Seriously, using what stick can you measure morallity, when each culture and each individual has their own moral standards. For example, you might as well ask: "Do you think I am the most morally superior person in MU" =_=

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» sarah-eats-cupcakes on November 8th, 2011, 3:22am

18.5% of the votes for "yes, and i'm not japanese"...i dont know what to say...
see kids...you cant judge a country according to a handful of people.some people here are justifying their votes for "no" by referring to shota,loli and hentai...PUH-LEASE!!!
i believe that there's no such thing as "good" or "bad" everyone has both, same goes for countries.saying that the japanese are superior morally is downright stupid, and saying they're inferior because of their crimes during the world war isnt any better either...if you are forever going to judge the japanese according to history then that means that ALL germans hate jews, ALL americans hate cubans and japanese and ALL albanians hate serbians etc. etc.
most of the replies to this poll make me sad
and i agree with those who said that the result of this poll cannot be used as a reference for the paper.

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» sarah-eats-cupcakes on November 8th, 2011, 5:42am

ah sorry. i meant...ALL germans still* hate jews, ALL americans still* hate cubans and japanese and ALL albanians still* hate serbians

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» RoleOfAQS on November 8th, 2011, 10:44am

Er, no, I think yer a wee bit off there. You seem to think that we think this because of porn. Well, if that's the case, ever country has horrible morals, so that's a non-issue. There are other factors, and unfortunately for you, the biggest source of opinion for those outside of the country is japanese media.

With stuff like Highschool of the Dead and Queens Blade, as well as a sharp turn towards perversion in gaming (Even Kotaku's had several articles going "Really, japan?"), the opinion is that they most definitely do not have better morals than the rest of us. The problem with the poll is that the only options here are "Positive" and "Neutral", there is no choice for "Negative", so all the neutral and negative votes get grouped together.

Furthermore, before you continue on your silly rant, even the Japanese agree. The japanese right now have voted in a 5:2 ratio that Japanese are not morally superior. This has nothing to do with hating japan, and with you disregarding that result... you kinda come across weeabooish.

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» sarah-eats-cupcakes on November 8th, 2011, 11:14am

ehconfusedwhat are you talking about?
my post was directed at people who voted no because of porn or political issues
you dont have to tell me what you just told me
have a look through people's posts before acting all witty and smart and giving me a lesson about japanese media
if you look at the above comments written by people who voted for "no", you can classify them into 2 groups: 1-those who understand that no country can possibly be morally superior because people have varying ideals and morals in the first place. 2-those who voted no because they think the japanese are inferior due to porn and/or war crimes
my post was directed at the second group explaining why they are wrong
how does this make me a weeaboo? care to elaborate?

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» mattai on November 8th, 2011, 8:25am

Roughly 3.3% of the people who answer mangaupdates polls are Japanese

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» cl123 on November 8th, 2011, 6:30pm

lol very true!! and even then, even that statistic is not necessarily true because nothing guarantees that people are being honest in an online poll

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» Davion X on November 8th, 2011, 5:16pm

This pool is just stupid. The question is stupid itself. Even if it's for class etc., this portal isn't right place, to ask such question. Just no.

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» sarablack10 on November 8th, 2011, 8:48pm

I don't really care if this is for someone's essay or not, but this is the worst poll ever. Not only does it cause conflict in a neutral website and forum, but it is a sensitive subject. That, and I don't think you can use this survey for research purposes at all because these are all voluntary responses in a very similar sample, thus making this survey very, very tilted.

My answer, no. No one's perfect.

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» Tutli-Putli on November 11th, 2011, 8:46am

Wouldn't it be great if what they're actually studying is the response to a biased poll like this? Now that would be a great essay.

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» centzon totochtin on November 9th, 2011, 11:33am

Sorry, where is the 3rd option that says humans have the same morals / lack of no matter what country they are from? If you are studying then think a bit more.

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» AndyProk on November 9th, 2011, 4:14pm

That would be either of the two "no" answers, I'd say.

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» That2ndGuy on November 9th, 2011, 10:14pm

Before I begin, I'd like to point out that where and how the said Japanese person is raised will usually help determine how "moral" they are. Also, I'd rather not classify a race, so I'll just go with the country of Japan and it's citizens.
To say there is a morally superior country would be nearly impossible. "Morally superior" is too vague. There are so many factors that people would argue are more important over others or not necessary at all. What I can say is that every country has done some horrible things in the past, distant and recent. Based on today's Japan, I'd have to give a no to morally superior, but not inferior by far. They just keep to themselves all the time and use a lot of polite words, sure, but the Japanese also brought people manga like lolicon and shotacon and made it legal to purchase, sell and own porn like that. Most of the time, it's some guy who lusts after his little prepubescent sister. Pedophilia and incest, especially together, pretty much does it for me. I'm not trying to say my country is more moral, since we stick our nose in everyone's business and the political system is so split nothing gets accomplished. Japan just seems to have a lot of closet sexual deviants or something lol

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» alexdhamp on November 10th, 2011, 4:02pm

I have an issue with people basing their idea of Japan's morality based on just the worst things that come out of their culture(war crimes, hentai, etc). That is, how it doesn't actually represent their society and culture on a whole. Like with the war crimes, those were the decisions of those in power, feeding their people lies to get them to go along. It's not like Japan is the only country that does things like that, even America has done questionable things.(also, the lolicon..it's not like America doesn't have near equivalents that purposely pushes the boundary as far as lawfully possible. Porn that depict "school girl" or "high school cheerleaders" for example.."Barely 18"..or even scandals like that actress that had porn movies made when she was under 18)

What about the positive things? Japan's largely lower crime rate than our own. How many times do we hear about a little girl being kidnapped in Japan, raped, brutally murdered and finding her body disposed somewhere? Now the same question only here in America...

People only seem to consider the worst-of-the-worst in subjects like this(while ignoring their own) and ignoring the full spectrum of behavior.

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» Anka on November 12th, 2011, 1:10pm

it's a really strange question for me. morality level does not depend on nationality. I know this myself

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» Jooles on November 14th, 2011, 6:27pm

Don't really understand why you're whining so much about the poll being bad when you have absolutely no idea what the essay is about - the subject of the class wasn't even specified. For all I know, this answer could fit into a statistic or whatevz.

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