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|Please learn about SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act)
|I'm just going to link to an editorial by Adam Savage (of MythBuster fame). These laws are no good in their current form. I recommend that you find out for yourself what these laws are about, and why they are bad for the internet community. I believe the congressional hearings will start again on the 21st, and they will be streamed.
Click here for the article at Popular Mechanics
Edit: I also thought this Stanford Law Review article was informative:
Edit 2: I guess they're waiting till early January to continue the hearings? We'll see.
|Posted by Manick on December 21st 2:56am
Internet will be done if this is released i have nothing against America in general but they always go too far they won't stop a with piracy for sure.
This will get crazy i tell you they will start closing every site that have piracy meaning bye bye manga, anime and lot of other things and they will probably also close any site who promote thoses thing meaning bye bye Baka-Update and i lot of other...
Also legitimate site will start closing for no reason because america will think they do piracy without any proof.
And last all thoses saying SOPA should be release because they say piracy make them lose money but i think sure piracy don't help but the reason the products don't sell is because of the quality of the products they sell simply suck...
You have games on consoles who break record in selling i mean damn you have CoD who have sold 9.3M in 1 days so it's really still possible to sell a lot nowaday even with piracy you just have to released things the population want stop blaming piracy because the product you make suck and no1 want to buy them...
This is not something you can blame either side for - there's widespread support for SOPA / PIPA in both parties. The real culprits here are MPAA and RIAA.
Wait...can't they just start with having China following the rules of stopping illegal activity first?
Sigh...and the west was supposed be all that great -_-;;;;
Hmm this act if pass will degrade internet to o.O.o
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/veto -sopa-bill-and-any-other-future-bills-threaten-diminish-free-flo w-information/g3W1BscR?utm_source=wh.gov&utm _medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
I hope everyone does their part to help fight this, even some of the people that help create the internet in the first place are speaking out about this Act.
Yes, we need to form countermeasure such as Stop Against Hypocrisy (SAH) or something like that...
So when this passes we're gonna lose Baka Updates?.
Well, at the end of the day, this an information database; it doesn't actually host copyrighted material, unlike online readers or streaming websites, for example. The worst thing I can imagine happening to Baka-Updates is to be forced to remove links to scanlation groups (which, come to think of it, is the main purpose of the website -_-' ), becoming more similar to Anime-Planet, MyAnimeList, AniDB, and the lot that doesn't have release information.
However, the worse damage is indirect and wider. The U.S. alone has over 320+ million people, and when they suddenly stop viewing anime and manga, it is going to have an effect. Couple that with possible laws like this one as well in the future, perhaps coming from Canada and the European Union, too, and you may get a worldwide decline of (at least visible) interest in this part of Japanese indusrty.
By the way, 'Stop Online Piracy Act' and 'ThePirateBay': Sound related? Probably.
Well, at least MegaUpload has officially joined the ranks of opposition towards this bill recently after having their videos of signed artists, like P. Diddy and Kim Kardashian, singing their praise unrightfully removed by Universal from YouTube. I can't imagine the SOPA's being any good for them either.
if this is passed, it will be the end of anime, manga & other things. this thing must to stop since it will not be really good for us.
Kinda explains well how we will get screwed...btw how come the media storm about this hasnt started yet? O.o
Simple - the media is in cahoots with MPAA and RIAA.
Of course they are...they are the ones losing money...aight? xD
"Right now Congress is considering two bills—the Protect IP Act, and the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)"
Well, this is suck. I mean, the fate of internet's future is depending on America's congress. I'm afraid it's depending on the wrong heads. To top it off, this wouldn't only affect the country of the one responsible, but getting the whole world involved. Man, they're just not admirable busybodies.
BIGBROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!
This video pretty much explains what SOPA is, how it would work if it is passed, what the ramifications are, and how it pretty much will screw up the internet for the whole world not just those in america.
The Internet it's gonna be like in the 90's, but even worse with alot of censorship.
This foretells misfortunes to come . . .
Someone should explain how both Americans and non-Americans can fight this.
The misfortunes were already told in "1984", read it and you will see how scary a place the world will become.
I've already signed against the act. It sucks because it wont matter how many names there are, as long as the big entertainment conglomerates want it done, they'll push the pen themselves. I truly am beginning to believe the only way to stop our country from becoming nothing is to kill everyone in Congress and start over. WAAAYYYY too much corruption. And that's just what I hear from my sister (she's an intern at some congressional building). I guess all we can do is cross our fingers ;_;
im totaly with you on that but its hopeless because its practicly impossible to do without a massive amount of support like in code geass
Euhm, I dont really understand something like this,
It will only impact on people in U.S rite?
I didn't understand all the complicated clauses, legal jargon or technical terms, but since most scanlation groups are based in America (and I'm pretty sure this site is, too), if this clause is passed most of the manga scanlation, aggregation and information sites as well as anime info, downloading and fansubbing sites will go down in a flash because they're engaging in online piracy and copyright violation.
Meaning, the end result will be the same whether you live in or outside of the US. Passing of the SOPA = no manga or anime (and also music, movies, TV shows etc.)
Wew, that's a really bad news for me. Ught...
Then I should learn Japanese soon =____=
Nah, just learn to use irc. Back to the creepy crawly parts of the internet for us.
Or another method is to type the blocked sites IP address into the address bar...
If all they do is delete the site reference from the DNS server, then yes it will work. But I doubt it would go like that, and the site would die in mater of days (no viewers no reason to stay online).
Did you know that inkognito mode in chrome doesn't work and that google actually track you in their searches? Creepy I say!
Did you ever read what it said in incognito browsing? The only thing it does is not record anything on your own browser. There's no way you can control what is recorded by servers when you visits websites and shit.
Exactly my point
This whole thing is bogus and I'm happy to see that the articl about SOPA is up here. It means that more people are informed about this shitstorm that keeps brewing.
Oh, you didn't know? Well, before SOPA there were Internet Blacklist, Protect IP Act and one or two more similar bills.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xjisu18X6s7lPtAs IQg5Ol3KJjymPT2az1kasQVwGiw/mobilebasic?pli=1 - list of companies supporting this bill.
I also suggest for you guys to read the wiki article on SOPA so you could have a better understanding of what happens if it passes.
People don't need to worry, it can easily be evaded with a vpn or proxy.
And the only sites that could get problems are bigger sites, those online-readers lose a lot of traffic and off course their adds disappear
, they will be destroyed. The scanlation groups wouldn't have that much trouble, they are rather small (difficult to find) and they've still got irc.
The anime fansub groups would have trouble on the other hand, everything that is streamed will be difficult to distribute certainly torrent sites would get it difficult (I guess they made the law for torrent sites).
The positive point is that the license holders would have more difficulties to find all those sites.
It becomes like in Malaysia, but then on a larger scale.
I didn't think of that. Boy, I hope those 'NOEZ' f*gs get hit hard as a result.
It would be the only good thing coming out of this bill.
Nah, he's in China and as long as China refuse to stop piracy...it won't. Of course as soon as they do...I hope they get him first, put him in jail, takes him money away for themselves, and then torture him to death. Seriously that would be cool
I'm pretty sure at least half our country think its starting to suck. Might as well split the country down the middle. West U.S. for the future, and East U.S. for those who want to stick with the present. All I know is they're f#cking with my future. If SOPA passes, SOPA is only the beginning.
Before making blanket statements regarding East vs. West, you might do well to check who's supporting the bill in question (unfortunately, the list is rather long): the bill was introduced by Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), and is currently co-sponsored by 31 representatives, including 8 representatives from California, as well as representatives from Nevada, Arizona, Texas and New Mexico. The support is hardly limited to one side of the country.
Where are the servers of Manga Updates?
I do not actually know. Maybe Texas? Probably somewhere in the U.S.
This bill will not affect other countries except america. Other countries will not follow their laws blindly. They will easily bypass this law by using their own dns system.
Like chinese censorship won't work in other countries , American censorship won't work in foreign countries.
errr... lemme tell you something funny about the West. If America does it then it's cool and we should do it too.
America wants a dude from us and we take away their rights and turn them in, without giving a damn. They did that with a mother to a child since she was accused for taking drugs into usa...something that her bf---at that time---did and then made a deal with the government to sell out everyone, even false ones. The other was handed to them in 24 hours and the rest of this country went: WTF!
but that's reality...you should know how much power america got to affect other countries in the west...to e.g. wage war with other countries in the name of freedom, justice and hunt of terrorists
the internet is being destroyed by people who hardly use it :/
Isn't that how it is with everything?
I have always wondered what it would be like to threaten a government that tries something like this, that if the laws get passed, that there will be so many legitimate copyright infringement complaints logged at every governmental site there is, ( these can be for almost an image/photo that someone can lay claim to being the owner of, quote's that a person did not want made public, anything that could look like plagiarism or deformation, etc...). This could also extend into charity and religious organizations.
I really hope this bill doesn't pass. If it did it would seriously suck. Yeah, there are ways around it, but it would definitely ruin the openness of the internet. Plus by what Adam says about it ANYONE can sue you for copyright infringement, which is ridiculous, if the copyrightholder doesn't care, why on earth should someone else be able to sue? O.o This would probably shut down sites like Youtube, Facebook and such in no time.
And yeah, I'm pretty sure other countries would follow if America introduced something like this, here in Europe some countries are like America groupies. The Netherlands as well, if America does something they think they should at least give doing the same very serious consideration (that's how we got mixed up in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq).
Plus the only thing being able to see copyrighted stuff on the internet has done in my case is make me buy more copyrighted stuff too. The internet is the only reason I got into manga in the first place and a lot of the music I like is stuff I've come across on the internet as well. Face it, you copyright jerks, if I don't want to buy it after hearing/reading it, it JUST AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH.
Anyway, I guess I'd better start practicing my IRC skills X(
If anyone can request the seizer of a domain I will go for CNN, msnbc, fox, fox news, tea party web site and any website related to the people that passed the bill.
and all company's related to the MPAA and RIAA
Let's just use IPs or P2P(DHP) DNS resolving.
Not everyone is as experienced with the Internet as you are.
"Ignorance is sin" ?
That would be illegal under this bill. Personally circumventing the DNS restrictions would be illegal.