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New Poll - Effect of Bad Ending
This week's poll, which was suggested by our member ayumisingo, is a little long-winded... If you have been reading a series, and you liked it, but then right at the ending, it just sucked so bad, would you still read another series by the same author? Very weird question... But my personal prediction is that most people would still read their stuff since they liked it up until the end. (No forum thread this time)
You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related):
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: Favorite / Best kind of manga romance
Choices:
Childhood friend - votes: 2731 (16.7%)
Long time (secret?) crush - votes: 1777 (10.9%)
Half (whole?) sibling - votes: 1493 (9.1%)
Someone new - votes: 3061 (18.7%)
Best friend - votes: 1354 (8.3%)
Idol (seemingly unattainable) - votes: 1324 (8.1%)
Rival - votes: 3821 (23.4%)
Don't like romance at all - votes: 766 (4.7%)
There were 16327 total votes.
The poll ended: February 4th 2012
The rival, eh? I guess a lot of people like the catharsis of turning an enemy into a lover
You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related):
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: Favorite / Best kind of manga romance
Choices:
Childhood friend - votes: 2731 (16.7%)
Long time (secret?) crush - votes: 1777 (10.9%)
Half (whole?) sibling - votes: 1493 (9.1%)
Someone new - votes: 3061 (18.7%)
Best friend - votes: 1354 (8.3%)
Idol (seemingly unattainable) - votes: 1324 (8.1%)
Rival - votes: 3821 (23.4%)
Don't like romance at all - votes: 766 (4.7%)
There were 16327 total votes.
The poll ended: February 4th 2012
The rival, eh? I guess a lot of people like the catharsis of turning an enemy into a lover
Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» deadphoenix on February 4th, 2012, 10:41am
Mirai Nikki and The Terror of AlleGory had both endings that I didn't like, so I don't read Big Order. 
» Joseinen on February 5th, 2012, 1:30pm
it's kinda the opposite for me. I didn't like mirai nikki's ending, but i'm reading big order. it's alright so far.
» darkraiders on February 4th, 2012, 10:44am
It depend of a lot of thing like it was axed or how long the story was you can't always expect to have good ending with oneshot but having a really bad ending on a series with 100+ chapters is something else when they have worked on a series for years they should have the idea for a decent ending no matter what happen.
» RiK.dfs on February 4th, 2012, 10:54am
I think it depends on how bad the ending was. If the ending really makes no sense then I would be reluctant to read their work again.....but I still might. If it just was somewhat bad or such.....I would just keep that in mind with their future work. If the end was horrible as hell......I would pretty much not waste my time on anything by them ever again.
» JustPassingBy on February 4th, 2012, 10:55am
if the ending sucked because it got axed, then yes, for sure.
if the ending sucked and the series wasn't axed, then depends on how bad the ending is.
if the ending sucked and the series wasn't axed, then depends on how bad the ending is.
» Alex623 on February 4th, 2012, 11:23am
Adachi Mitsuru. Love his series, but I'm always dissatisfied by the endings. But I still reread a bunch of them.
» rayosis on February 4th, 2012, 11:49am
I was really an avid fan of Prince of Tennis. But near the end of things, it got so ridiculous and the ending felt so rushed and poorly written that it really ruined the entire series for me. While I won't deny that I still read Shin Prince of Tennis on occasions, I read it more with a more "Oh, I guess I should..." type of attitude rather than "Ah, this is still worth it".
» uzumakiwalid on February 4th, 2012, 12:24pm
While usually not much people won't even bother reading from the same author, i think it's plain retarded to not reading another series from the same author just because one of their work just make you feel discontent because the ending suck. now i'm giving you question, do you think the author of those(with not-so-good ending) series didn't think about the ending at all? there must be a reason the author put those ending. well, that was just me ranting.
» kevmasterzoc on February 4th, 2012, 12:36pm
and to further build on your points that not reading anther series from a mangaka because of a bad ending is retarded, having one series with a bad ending doesnt mean all of his/her series will have bad endings. over time, their storytelling skills could get better and they could develop incredible endings to their future series.
» RiK.dfs on February 4th, 2012, 5:06pm
It's not retarded when the mangaka has more than one series with bad endings. And a "bad ending" can really differ from what most would consider an "ending they just didn't like".
» alidan on February 6th, 2012, 6:00pm
i cant go into it without spoilers... but i read such a shit ton of manga, that if i get a bad end, not just an ending i dont agree with, but an end that makes me wtf, or even rage at how stupid it is out just how crappy it makes me feel... i dont read the next thing they write till its over and i know the ending.
im more of a journey over the destination person, but what the journey is tainted because of how bad the place you end up is...
and i also take axed endings into consideration too... because just because i like the mangaka doesnt mean i want to read and get into another one of their mangas only to be ruined by another axed end... they tend to happen to the same people more often than you think...
im more of a journey over the destination person, but what the journey is tainted because of how bad the place you end up is...
and i also take axed endings into consideration too... because just because i like the mangaka doesnt mean i want to read and get into another one of their mangas only to be ruined by another axed end... they tend to happen to the same people more often than you think...
» RiK.dfs on February 9th, 2012, 7:18am
Yeah. If they lose enough readers a publisher WILL drop their series. If it happens once to an author, be wary of it happening again with them. If it happens twice.....then it's starting to become their tendency to make series that get axed endings (which very often don't even make sense).
An axed ending can be okay for a series not read for it's story, but just for mindless action. The ending really is important for those of us who read FOR the story.
An axed ending can be okay for a series not read for it's story, but just for mindless action. The ending really is important for those of us who read FOR the story.
» FormX on February 4th, 2012, 1:01pm
No Maybe?
» naikan on February 4th, 2012, 1:22pm
If an author had one series that ended badly, I might read his/her new series, but I would hold off on buying any volumes of the new series until it was completely published. What's more painful than reading a bad ending on a 30+ volume manga is reading a bad ending that completely ruins a series you've already paid hundreds of dollars on. To this date, my Samurai Deeper Kyo collection remains incomplete. >_>
» deadphoenix on February 4th, 2012, 2:40pm
So Samurai Deeper Kyo has a bad ending?
I've got only the later 10 volumes of them, so I need them to put it on the cancel list.
This way I can never complete a long series (the longest completed series is that I have until now is 11 volumes (12 volumes after finishing cirque du freak)), well I've still got 22 volumes of King of Hell and Chronicles of the cursed sword.... What is even more annoying than a bad end is still any end at all, like the ones mentioned earlier, and their won't be any scanlation group doing it, because it's to far behind + still ongoing + the series is longer than One piece.
But those won't be the only ones, I've still got over 30 series that I gave a 10/10 that are on hiatus by the publisher(English and Japanese) or by the scanlation group (for example "Monk!", that hilarious series that the group quit doing it when it was in the middle of the best part).
I don't like to end a series in the middle of the best part like Kanpai! either.
I've got only the later 10 volumes of them, so I need them to put it on the cancel list.
This way I can never complete a long series (the longest completed series is that I have until now is 11 volumes (12 volumes after finishing cirque du freak)), well I've still got 22 volumes of King of Hell and Chronicles of the cursed sword.... What is even more annoying than a bad end is still any end at all, like the ones mentioned earlier, and their won't be any scanlation group doing it, because it's to far behind + still ongoing + the series is longer than One piece.
But those won't be the only ones, I've still got over 30 series that I gave a 10/10 that are on hiatus by the publisher(English and Japanese) or by the scanlation group (for example "Monk!", that hilarious series that the group quit doing it when it was in the middle of the best part).
I don't like to end a series in the middle of the best part like Kanpai! either.
» naikan on February 4th, 2012, 5:12pm
Well, to be fair to the author, bad endings are subjective. To me, I disliked the ending of Samurai Deeper Kyo because it felt like the author took a couple bad liberties with the plot in order to force a certain type of ending (trying not to spoil it...).
But then again, I was fine with the endings of xxxHolic and Mirai Nikki that others have hated on in this thread and I will continue to collect CLAMP's stories, so one person's bad ending is not another ones. I would strongly encourage you to read to the end of Samurai Deeper Kyo for free at a library and then decide if you want to invest in it.
For me, though, Rurouni Kenshin and Full Metal Alchemist are two series I'm happy to pay for in any language! Especially the beautifully re-issued Japanese collectors edition with bonus coloured pages (!!).
But then again, I was fine with the endings of xxxHolic and Mirai Nikki that others have hated on in this thread and I will continue to collect CLAMP's stories, so one person's bad ending is not another ones. I would strongly encourage you to read to the end of Samurai Deeper Kyo for free at a library and then decide if you want to invest in it.
For me, though, Rurouni Kenshin and Full Metal Alchemist are two series I'm happy to pay for in any language! Especially the beautifully re-issued Japanese collectors edition with bonus coloured pages (!!).
» deadphoenix on February 4th, 2012, 6:41pm
It would be nice if I could lent them in a library, but I don't live in the USA, and in my country their isn't much manga. And the ten manga that they have in the library's over here, did I already finish a long time ago. As a matter of fact, I don't think it's still a option to buy Kyo, most of the series was done by Tokyopop. And you know what happened to them...... Well, that they went bankrupt is some sort of good thing, you've got the series complete, So in the end, when you sell it in the future, to a certain Billionaire for $10000 then you've been lucky and you can enjoy your new car. At least if you want to sell it for that kind of money.
» AndyProk on February 4th, 2012, 2:23pm
I did vote "Yes", but mainly because I very rarely look at the author's name. Meaning I wouldn't notice it was by the same author and thus still read it. I guess if I would notice I might not read it.
The author's name usually only interests me if the manga was genius.
The author's name usually only interests me if the manga was genius.
» GGpX on February 4th, 2012, 2:27pm
It really depends. Yeah, bad endings suck, but if the rest of the manga was could, it can sorta be overlooked. Right now, I'm scanlating a single volume series with a terrible ending. However, the content before it is extremely enjoyable and very entertaining.
So yeah, depends.
So yeah, depends.
» PunnyName on February 4th, 2012, 2:31pm
The endings of xxxHolic, Kobato and Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle ruined my enjoyment in their other stories. Each series seemed like it ended because Clamp got tired of it and that makes me fear the same would happen to their new series.
» maine12329 on February 4th, 2012, 4:46pm
I read all of those too! I enjoyed the ending of Kobato though... Not so much for Tsubasa and xxxHolic. Tsubasa's final battle was awkward to me and xxxHolic didn't spread the ending into enough chapters to explain things like who Himawari married etc.
xxxHolic's one should have truly been the worse one since it was rushed. As far as manga endings go, xxxHolic was the only one I felt disappointed about.
xxxHolic's one should have truly been the worse one since it was rushed. As far as manga endings go, xxxHolic was the only one I felt disappointed about.
» gekokujou on February 9th, 2012, 12:06pm
Almost all CLAMP's works have either dissapoiting endings or none at all. :/ Even knowing that, I still read it (which is why I answered 'Yes' in this poll). I'm glad there are other people, who support the "got bored with the story and were rushing to end it, so they can start a new one" theory. I know that finishing stories this long and complicated must be really hard and that's what I tell myself every time, I come across one of those endings. The only time I was really pissed was with xxxHolic. Actually, I'm still angry about it. And no, Watanuki appearing in other running series sure as Hell won't appease my anger! But it works for most of the fans, so maybe I'm just a black sheep.
» auriga on February 4th, 2012, 6:53pm
Indeed, what counts as a "bad ending" is subjective. Case in point, Alex623 finds Adachi's endings to be dissatisfactory while I think they're sufficient especially if you consider the events which directly and indirect led to that point. But again, these are just our opinions which are subject to our individual tastes. (peace, Alex! 
)
I give more weight to the development rather than the actual end. If the author keeps me reading until the very end then I'm more or less bound to check out his/her other stuff ("good" art - again, subjective - is also a plus). A "bad ending" is moot if the author can't sustain my interest.
) I give more weight to the development rather than the actual end. If the author keeps me reading until the very end then I'm more or less bound to check out his/her other stuff ("good" art - again, subjective - is also a plus). A "bad ending" is moot if the author can't sustain my interest.
» yuno19 on February 6th, 2012, 7:39pm
hugely in agreement with you. you know, i read each comment here to seek this tone; so that i can reply, "i agree with you."
» Sagaris on February 5th, 2012, 12:19am
Do we not get threads to discuss the polls anymore?
» Seijurou on February 7th, 2012, 6:10pm
I've never looked at those before. They've always felt redundant when the comments are already there, though I have no idea why some polls get threads and some don't.
» Turbophoenix on February 6th, 2012, 6:48am
It really depends on what genre the next one is. If they did a romance first then an action series, then no.
But let's say that it's the same genre and the story seems worth a look, then I would still read it.
But let's say that it's the same genre and the story seems worth a look, then I would still read it.
» ShadowSakura on February 6th, 2012, 7:16am
i read every okamoto lynn manga, even though i hate most endings
so, yes
so, yes
» brigee88 on February 6th, 2012, 7:57am
I would but if they did it over and over again I'm not sure I would. :/ I enjoy HMR's historical/pseduo historical stories but the endings are always so lackluster. :/ (Actually, her non historical ones are lackluster too but i won't read those anymore so...)
» shinshuu on February 6th, 2012, 12:34pm
Even if one of the author story ending suck, or good; it stil depend largely on the overall plot of the author other stories. For example, with HMR, I can only to so much until I get sick of the plot line (almost all the stories have the same plot concept). Just because I love the author doesn't mean I read their other work if the plot doesn't hook me in like CLAMP (some good, some bad; would only read those I like). I tend to cherry pick those that I like base on plot, rather than by author. If their story good, I encounter it sooner of later without even having to go the their name.
» yuno19 on February 6th, 2012, 7:44pm
As the times goes by, I perceive the ending of any art piece get greater and greater weight toward that piece overall goodness. If the ending suck, so will be the all things. If the ending is awesome, so will be the rest. But, so far, I've come across pieces that even have such unsatisfactory ending, still hook me onto the ride. Even at the re-consumption! And I conclude, no matter how big the ending may impact, it won't weight over 50% of overall. And comes the side conclusion, If the other 50% are holycow awesome, I won't mind get disappointed by sucky ending again.
