i think,that is because batoto will give (more) money to them,than mangahere/fox will.If batoto refused to give them money,they would be "singing different song".

ads probably.

RHS is already getting paid by Mangafox/NOEZ. They don't give a damn about Batoto.
Their initial post actually was like this:
"However, aggregate sites like Batotowill undoubtedly continue to distribute material as they please,"

Mediafire, they won't get much, zero except if they own the host.

The scanlators make money only from their own projects on Batoto.
Mangafox makes money on ALL titles.

So you say, donation are okay, but why is the money from ads no good? Why can't the scanlator use that for the raws? It doesn't cost the readers anything -.-'

Exactly.

Not as much of the money goes to the group as you think it does on Mangafox. That's part of the problem groups are complaining about with Mangafox. Look at some other threads and you'll see a whole slew of information on this.

The fact that you honestly believe this is quite outstanding.

/facepalm/ You're totally clueless to the meaning of copyright. If you get the books of harry potter and rewrite it but you change the name of the protagonist to Harriet Pottings, and the gender... it does not mean the new books don't still have copyright from the original author... Inform yourself before spouting retardedness.

BRAVO!!!! :: STANDING OVATION!! ::

If you're actually interested in the truth, come find me on IRC. If you would prefer to continue to make snide and uninformed accusations from the sidelines, by all means proceed. Haters are nothing new for us or the internet.

I don't really get it why you're fighting about this... Remember a couple of years ago when Meep-Scans got a C&D from Daiwon(i think, if not.. haksan)? They went underground, renamed themselves Manwhore-scans... and then finished the mangas they started. As i remember no one bitched at them for finishing those mangas. Everyone thanked them. Most of the people that kept saying "you're not respecting the wishes of the publishers" are fu.cking hypocrites. If they had dropped those series, you people would be writing compassionate posts about them and saying it's too bad that they had to stop doing them.

Got tired of that old record, so scratched he keeps saying the same things regardless of topic.

Not that there isn't anything wrong with that, but... meh, it does get old.

True but it would be impossible to track every person who has ever used a site like mangafox.

And I'm sorry, I think you misread what I wrote. I was referring to the readers not the scan layouts who are never satisfied. When a manga is licensed most cry that scanlators have dropped it and now that Red Hawk said they will continue with scanlators people are going apeshit for continuing. What I'm saying is that if they are gonna end up reading their scans then they shouldn't say crap. And when I said "you guys are idiots" I'm referring to the readers again. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

you do know that official editors have to pay for the license, right? ads are really lucrative if you don't hav to pay licences for every single manga. if you have to, then it's nowhere near enought.
that's why there is less and less official editors in english, because team like RHS steal their direct market without a need to pay the license while the official side have to.

Heh. There are some kids in this biz from poor countries who'd sell their grandma for five bucks. The amount of money that wouldn't make a real publisher (or any normal scanlator) even lift a finger would be enough for a kid like that to get into scanlation, try to pick up every popular WSJ manga out there, and plaster their site with ads and quick bux links. Remember Mangacurse? Some groups just take it far and beyond that, but they're still doing it for money, even if it's not worth the effort by the standards of someone from a wealthier country

Almost everyone*

I'd like to expand on how ridiculous it is for Japanzai to criticize RHS on that topic.
I know first-hand what kind of profits they get under Google AdSense since I'm a leader of Random Scanlations and was competing against them for SKR and also used Google Adsense.

I know exactly what kind of revenue a popular manga brings. During the whole saga, Adsense was bringing revenues up to 450$ (but we were banned for some reason so we didn't see a penny of that). And Japanzai scanlates several other popular series.

The reality is that any group that is somewhat large will end up making money if they use Adsense or donations. And not just "break even" like what most small groups aspire to. They can use that to buy raws, keep it for themselves, or a combination of both (personally, I let our paypal account open to my admins because I have nothing to hide.)

Like EGS and the that lofty monthly donation goal. I know a lot of it goes towards hosting since I used to be co-leader there but it shows poor judgment because hosting should never cost that much. My group pays roughly 60$ a year, unlimited bandwidth. A tad slow and probably not suitable for large groups but the 60-80 euros per month I saw while I was there? Way too high. Then again, when you have such a large fanbase willing to send money, why would you care?

So hey, personally, scanlation teams earning money for the work they do? I don't really mind. But I think it's hypocritical for a group making money to criticize another group making money.