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New Poll - Cheaper Paper
This poll from Achiyugo is a hypothetical situation. How much does the price point matter to you on paper manga? And this assumes you have access to buying it (such as buying via the Internet!)

You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related):
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: A new anime adaptation comes out for a manga series you've already read. Do you watch it?
Choices:
Watch it as it comes out (weekly, etc) - votes: 4813 (40.7%)
Wait a little before starting to know how good it is - votes: 3581 (30.3%)
Start from the middle once the anime deviates from the source - votes: 209 (1.8%)
Only start when the entire series is over - votes: 1682 (14.2%)
Don't watch it at all - votes: 1540 (13%)
There were 11825 total votes.
The poll ended: March 24th 2012

I've always wondered why you'd bother watching the anime version if you know (or assume) that the manga version is better (assuming that the manga came first). It's the same exact stuff happening... just animated.
Posted by lambchopsil on March 24th 6:45pm Comments ( 57 )  [ View ]  [ Add ]
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» Dionaea on March 24th, 2012, 11:55am

This poll is missing an option, the one "would not buy more because the stuff I want isn't being released". Voted I'd buy more, becausee I would, if the stuff I wanted were available...

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» Seijurou on March 24th, 2012, 12:03pm

Quote from from the poll
I would buy less

I think this is a trolling option.

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» bluesonnet on March 24th, 2012, 12:05pm

not necessarily a trolling option. people might want their manga on better quality paper (which of course would cost more), hence the option. smile

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» spikebaby on March 24th, 2012, 12:10pm

Quote from bluesonnet
not necessarily a trolling option. people might want their manga on better quality paper (which of course would cost more), hence the option. smile

Hmm, that's not how I read it at all. In my mind I thought that hypothetically the poll is asking me if manga volumes that are usually...10 dollars let's say, suddenly cost only 5 dollars would I buy more. No quality change or anything, just price change. I answered I would buy significantly more. Still, I don't think it's really a trolling option, because maybe they'd buy less out of self-control or something? Who knows.

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» mattai on March 24th, 2012, 12:33pm

You think the paper being used actually accounts for that much of the cost? laugh laugh

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» bluesonnet on March 24th, 2012, 11:56pm

just an example. smile

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» uzumakiwalid on March 24th, 2012, 12:16pm

If it does cheaper i would buy more volumes, i mean how much can it be cheaper? in here(my country that is) if changed to dollar, each manga only cost you about $1,65 at the most(not bunkoban, standard manga but not paperback), $1,85 at least for adult-oriented manga (same, no paperback) bigrazz

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» Hanae on March 24th, 2012, 12:29pm

I would definitely buy more, the price is the main reason why I don't buy a lot of manga volumes. Of course, unless the manga being cheaper means it being of much worse quality - if the translation or pictures were bad, I wouldn't buy it at all. I think I could accept worse quality paper, not completely white (I think the Japanese manga is printed on medium quality yellowish kind of paper...?), but if it was the kind that some of cheap paperback books are printed on (grey, falling apart, looking more like toilet paper than something you'd print a book on) I wouldn't buy the manga either. So - cheaper manga: yes, bad quality: no.

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» FormX on March 24th, 2012, 12:38pm

Where's the "I would start buying" option?

And yeah, the "What I want is not released" thing... that.

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» Alexyz0 on March 24th, 2012, 12:53pm

That would fix one of two problems but it still wouldn't help if the chapters haven't been released in English yet lol laugh

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» icarusbride on March 24th, 2012, 12:57pm

Japanese manga is generally about 40% cheaper than English manga (obviously because of the cost of purchasing licenses and paying translators and editors to change it into English.)
I find myself buying MUCH more Japanese manga (since learning Japanese) than I ever did of English manga, because the cost is much more reasonable! Most manga are anywhere from 400-650 yen for a brand new volume, with a few more obscure publishers charging a bit more.

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» melon-ramune-freak on March 24th, 2012, 1:11pm

Quote from icarusbride
Japanese manga is generally about 40% cheaper than English manga (obviously because of the cost of purchasing licenses and paying translators and editors to change it into English.)
I find myself buying MUCH more Japanese manga (since learning Japanese) than I ever did of English manga, because the ...

This. I second this. Ever since I discovered the loveliness of ordering directly from Japan, Taiwan, China, Korea, etc, I started buying more than usual and stopped buying licensed series. Not only is it cheaper, you support the mangaka more. If you buy the licensed version, the mangaka gets less royalties, or so I'm told. After all, the main reason readers buy their favorite series is because they want to support the mangaka. The only problem is shipping costs, though if you join with some friends and buy large quantities there's little to no shipping costs. I usually order series I like with a ton a friends and family's orders and have them all ship together.

And the quality of manga from Japan is shockingly higher than most, if not all, of the licensed ones. The lines are so crisp and clean and the tones are so vibrant... eyes

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» fuyuko00 on March 25th, 2012, 10:33pm

The main reason I want to buy my favorite manga is that I want to keep them, have a copy for re-reading because I love them so much. When I buy them, I rarely think about wanting to support the mangaka. Guess I'm not a good fan huh.

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» Saons on March 24th, 2012, 1:10pm

I wouldn't buy more. The only reason I read manga is because it's free. Granted, it's illegal, but until scanlators are forced to stop by whatever means, this is the only way I'll read them. I enjoy reading manga, but not enough to pay money for it (with a few exceptions; I plan to buy a couple series I really enjoyed in the future, but that's it). I guess I also think this way because I could easily live without manga.

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» deadphoenix on March 24th, 2012, 1:23pm

I saw prices between the $2 and the $25 for the same volume ( for example the Mushishi wideban volume 8-9-10 combined, I bought it only for $2.5, but I saw places where i cost around $25 smile wink grin ), so I bought directly cheap paper manga for that price, so yeah, if paper manga were 40-50% cheaper, I would be more likely to buy it? (even if it is second chose manga).

Also if I would come to the option "I would buy less" , then I would like to point out that a lower price is not always a lower quality. A good example that I have in mind, is when I bought a couple volumes of Tokyopop, they went bankrupt so I couldn't complete it (unfinished series), until I found a small store in train station neighborhood of the university city. Their it stood the complete collection of the incomplete Tokyopop series, I was rather shocked to find it (released by Chuang-Yi), it was cheaper than the Tokyopop version (20%) and the biggest surprise printed on high quality paper and a full translation (also the suffixes), the volume was smaller but in a much higher resolution.eek

And finally toward the electronic copies, I wouldn't mind that, but I would never use rental. I strongly disapprove with the way some publisher swindle their customers with a high rent ( around the purchase price) for a ridiculous short time. dead

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» Crenshinibon on March 24th, 2012, 1:23pm

I haven't purchased manga in English for quite a while now, but this poll is really quite useless.

If the question is 'how can we get more customers' obviously dropping the price will attract more. However, it would also be completely unsustainable. Translators, editors, and licenses are all quite expensive, and the sales volume for something that has already passed its prime popularity outside of Asia just would not be able to make up the difference.

This isn't a viable solution to the problem at hand. The real issue is that just about everyone here feels (like most people who pirate) that they are ultimately entitled to the effort of others for free. Because that's the bottom line, and 'free' is a pretty tough price to beat.

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» Milleniummaster18 on March 28th, 2012, 4:44pm

Define "hypothetical situation" for me.

Also, this poll may not have any experimental purpose per se, yet it does have both recreational and informative values. So, you can't accurately call it "useless".

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» Ejaz on March 24th, 2012, 2:20pm

Sure, I'd buy more, if the quality of the paper isn't decreased that is. But I think manga volumes are already cheap enough as it is, and to make them even more cheap, it would mean that the mangaka isn't getting as much as they should deserve. I don't think it should change at all unless you decreased the quality of the paper or if you made it legitimately digitally obtainable.

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» bleeb on March 24th, 2012, 2:40pm

Actually, when I realised German-language manga was about 30-50% cheaper compared to English-language manga I switched. Because I would be able to buy significantly more volumes this way.

Even though reading German langauge is a lot harder for me than English language I still do it. Because I can buy more manga. A lot of German manga titles will cost me about €7 while they'll cost me €12 in English.

And the best part is: I'm actually improving my knowledge of another language. Less "uhms" and "errs" the next time, when I'll go to Germany!

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» mizaki2100 on March 24th, 2012, 3:53pm

I'd definitely buy a more volumes than now. Currently, I buy mangas at 9 bucks a piece. It may be not much, but I could use every dollar I get for some other things (school fees need to get paid, rent, living expenses, trips, eating out, etc) since I don't earn much. I save money for my mangas (a dollar a day, XD ) so if the prices really got cut off in half, I could buy twice the amount of mangas than before. Woooh! laugh

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» Sagaris on March 24th, 2012, 4:23pm

It'd be nice if ink was cheaper as well.

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» tactics on March 24th, 2012, 4:26pm

I already buy quite a bit of manga.
If they were cheaper, the money that was saved from what I would originally buy would just be used to buy more. I guess. I mean, I'm collecting the manga that I know I would read again at the moment. There are a few that I see that look really interesting and I would consider buying and yeah, if they were cheaper I'd probably buy them. Especially the manga that isn't licensed by Viz or something. The reason why I most of the series I buy are licensed by Viz is because they're one of the cheaper providers. Dark Horse and Yen Press are a lot more expensive I find. It's still expensive overall though. I don't even want to think about all the money I've spent on my collection over the years laugh

I don't expect this to happen anytime soon anyway though. If anything they're going to become even more expensive. They've already been raising the prices of manga. It's a nice thought though, manga being cheaper, but it's a fairy tale life if they half the price. Only chance that's gonna happen is when a company goes tits up and they have to sell their stock, but then it's not worth it because they haven't finished translating the series *loltokyopoplol*

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» trunks84 on March 24th, 2012, 4:36pm

First make the manga I want available in my country cause shipping each time a volume from the UK making the actual delivering cost more expensive then the book itself is just such a hassle / annoyance.

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» Zandra on March 24th, 2012, 4:46pm

I buy every manga I really like already, but I suppose I'd be more inclined to buy more if they were that much cheaper. I'd probably start buying the ones I simply like too.

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» Jack_T on March 24th, 2012, 5:10pm

I bought claymore because it used to be 7.99 rather than 9.99 (the usual price)

Now my favorite series like berserk or gantz are anywhere between 12.99 and 14.99

I tend to not buy much manga outside of the ones I like. Never anything new, it is way too expensive.

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» WShin on March 24th, 2012, 5:58pm

Yep, I think I'd actually buy some manga (*cough* gintama *cough), because the current market price is too high for me ($15-20 plus tax where I can get it - Chapters). If it were $7.5-10 dollars, I may actually consider buying something

Why I value translated manga at less than the market price: the scanlation groups seem to care more about the quality of their work than people paying for it - they are actual fans instead of just translators.

I'd like to see how much profit publishers (like Tokyopop, Viz) make on each translated volume of manga on average. It would help me put things into perspective.

And yes, the fact that publishers can't get out the series I want is something that also deters me from buying (is anyone publishing Oujitachi wa Izonsuru or Tsumi ni Futari)? biggrin

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» lys on March 25th, 2012, 6:40pm

All the professional translators, adapters, letterers, and editors I know in the manga industry are huge fans of the stuff (and that includes myself). That argument in your second paragraph comes across as pretty silly and ignorant.

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» icarusbride on March 27th, 2012, 6:19pm

I agree with lys. Since several of my senpai have graduated and become manga translators in the industry, I can tell you first hand that they are just as big of fans if not bigger than many scanlators. If there is any discrepancy, in which scanlations are better than the official releases, I am certain beyond a doubt that this is a matter of the licenseholder (ie, the people in charge of the english publishing company) making official decisions based on how much they are willing to spend for hours of work on the part of the translators/editors etc, and according to that give them (or don't give them) enough time on each series to do a thorough job; not the choices of the staff themselves.

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» Turbophoenix on March 24th, 2012, 7:05pm

I voted that I'd buy significantly more, since I already buy all my manga laugh

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» loki lee on March 24th, 2012, 9:45pm

Well, as for me...

When English manga is about $5(AUD) I'll buy all the ones I want.

In Japan, when I'm in Bookoff I seriously just buy all the manga I want. And if it's not there and I really want it, I go buy it from the book store. Even though I can't read all of it, I'll buy it because I've seen/read/heard good things about it before and I want to own it. Main concern is "how do I get this back home", because manga isn't that light, and secondary concern is "do I still have enough money to spend on the rest of my trip".

As a highschool student with no job, I rely on the money I recieve as gifts/spending money, so I don't have that much to spend, but if I did I would buy significantly more manga.

Some of them manga I've bought, I bought because I'd read the scanlations - I guess I just like having a preview of the thing I'm buying before I buy it. I'd really like it if there were more manga cafes in Australia.

IF - big if - I could afford to buy the magazines that publish manga (the Japanese ones), I'd at least have a better idea of what I was buying... only problem is that manga magazines outside of Japan tend to be really expensive because of the shipping. (TT__TT) I buy one every 2 months and it's marked up about 150% from what it cost in Japan, because the shipping price is high and then the retailer has to make a profit.

If it was cheaper, I could buy more.

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» KJacket on March 25th, 2012, 1:00am

Keep in mind that manga can run upwards of 30+ volumes for some of the more popular series so 50% decrease would be HUGE if you think about it. For me it is around $10-15 per english volume. Regular English fiction novels are usually only around 3-5 in a series at maybe $15-20. The cost spent on have a set is a big difference.

My first purchase, I remember quickly snatching up $8 volumes of a series I enjoyed when books went on sale, there were 14 volumes lol.

Yea Japanese book prices are way cheaper and better quality but the shipping costs a ton unless you're buying A LOT from a single site. Not to mention exchange rate charge.

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» otakuness on March 25th, 2012, 1:51am

maybe if i start earning my own money.. it still costs so much.. and i dont want to burden my parents with another addiction.. i already have my eating addictions and my novel addiction.. so i dont want to be the burden child.

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» whatnot on March 25th, 2012, 2:51am

matters not.. I would always read scanlations
even back then in my home country where 1 book manga costs 1,5 $, I didn't buy any.
the reasons being scanlations are simpler, better accessibility and of course, free.
The only downside is that I can't read them while I'm taking a dump.

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» drunkguy on March 25th, 2012, 7:58pm

If you can afford it, a tablet or an e-reader that uses android makes for a great manga reader.

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» Shibiusa on March 25th, 2012, 8:11am

I would start buying manga if it was that cheap (but I voted for "I would buy significantly more volumes", since there isn't that option). You really have no idea how much it costs in my country... I've seen manga volumes costing about 14€ each (without shipping! The shipping would be about 4€), specially if they are recent. And you wonder why they are that expensive? It's simple. Japan -> USA -> Europe -> and then my country. I've been trying to get all the volumes of a manga that I love, but... 9€ each volume and 4€ just for the shipping... I don't have that much to spare. So yeah. If it was about 4€-5€ each volume, I wouldn't mind buying them. I've thought of buying them on Amazon (UK), but it's still expensive... Way too expensive... And I can't trust mangas bought in second hand. I want them in mint condition.

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» drunkguy on March 25th, 2012, 8:45am

My problem with paper manga isn't the price or the quality of paper. I resent poor translations and censorship that often occurs in licenced titles. They can print them on old newspaper and sell them for one dollar for all I care. Any book that gets censored is just expensive toilet paper to me.

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» CuthienSilmeriel on March 25th, 2012, 9:01am

My purchases of manga increased exponentially when I moved to Japan and manga became insanely cheap. Even a brand new volume is less than half the cost it would be for an older volume in England, and when I go to a used book store I can buy 3 volumes for 100 yen.

The other up-side is that the manga is in it's original format. I really really hate it when English translations censor the art or completely erradicate all references to Japanese culture. Some things can not be translated and to try detracts from their meaning. The scanlators address this issue far better by simply adding a explanatory note and leaving everything else in tact.

I would buy more English manga if it was both cheaper and more faithful to the original Japanese. I understand that not all manga is censored, but the desire to completely Anglophy (is that even a word?) a manga is present in pretty much every translation I've come across, which is ridculous because I have yet to meet a single manga lover who didn't know about the honorifics system in Japanese, and other common cultural references persistent in most manga.

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» Crenshinibon on March 25th, 2012, 3:29pm

Quote from CuthienSilmeriel
My purchases of manga increased exponentially when I moved to Japan and manga became insanely cheap. Even a brand new volume is less than half the cost it would be for an older volume in England, and when I go to a used book store I can buy 3 volumes for 100 yen.

The other up-side is that the mang ...


Think about it from a linguistic perspective. What's important to the translator is the texture of the prose- they want the feel in English to match the feel in Japanese. And by and large, with the official translations (and not scanlations) the consensus is that they do a good job. We both read in Japanese- you know what I'm talking about. Literal translations do not adequately reflect the connotations and tone of the text. Maybe the commercial editors go a little over the top with some of the cultural aspects- changing the food they're eating, for instance- but it makes a degree of logical sense and probably does a better overall job of translating the atmosphere as well as the literal meaning

@Drunkguy: I'm not sure where you're finding censorship, these days. Those boats have long sailed- heck, with Murakami Haruki and Natsuo Kirino as the most popular translated Japanese writers, American audiences expect a certain level of explicit content. There are, however, a fair number of scanlations that artificially inject profanities on a more or less regular basis...

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» drunkguy on March 25th, 2012, 7:54pm

Define "these days." If you are talking about titles released last year or this year, I have no idea though I cannot imagine the publishers have done a complete 180 and given up on censorship. I know I've given up on keeping track. If you are talking about examples you can find on the market, here's a not so short list I found a while ago.

http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=65197&pa ge=31

Now, I can forgive a little extraneous profanity in scanlations. It isn't as if that is exclusive to scanlations anyway. I can even forgive scrubbing profanity from titles as is the case with those who pander to kids and soccer moms. It is when publishers edits/deletes panels, pages and chapters or alters dialogue to avoid controversial topics like rape, religion and racism that I get on my soapbox and curse the publishers and their mothers.

Nudity, violence and other politically incorrect content will always have publishers running to cover their collective asses. The problem is that at best, this causes delays in releases that are often already many months if not years old in Japan and scanlation circles. At worst, it is ham fisted butchering in a format that can ill afford such nonsense in the face of digital media.

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» Crenshinibon on March 25th, 2012, 9:01pm

Quote from drunkguy
Define "these days." If you are talking about titles released last year or this year, I have no idea though I cannot imagine the publishers have done a complete 180 and given up on censorship. If you are talking about examples you can find on the market, here's a not so short list.

http ...


This, to me, is making mountains out of molehills. Heck, one of those instances was requested by the artist in question.

While I can understand why you might be upset, some minor cropping that doesn't affect the plot really isn't the end of days for the industry. This pops up whenever translated media is brought to a new market, and often for good reason. Different countries have different marketing standards. The average consumer really doesn't give a damn, and it's not really censorship in the sense of the destruction of free speech- I'd bet good money 90% or more of those authors were in favor if it would increase sales.

Controversial subject matter sells, anyway. Most of the changes are either related to legality (child pornography) or because, exactly as you reference, the manga in question is a shounen title with nudity, and they can't market nudity to kids.

Not all, but most instances. Really not something to react at that level about.

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» drunkguy on March 25th, 2012, 10:41pm

I'll concede censorship isn't at the top of most reader's radar (though I hope SOPA, PIPA and ACTA are still in people's memory). Consumers are more worried about the many other glaring issues with printed manga such as availability, rising costs, delayed release time and an unfortunate risk of cancellation anyway. Compared to those fatal flaws, censoring out crosses in Full Metal Alchemist, hiding Goku's shame or removing hypodermic needles from Gash's head in Gash Bell could be seen as minor issues.

I take author compliance though with a grain of salt. If you told them that they could make twice as much money by cutting half the material out, I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of them would be in favor of it. We don't live in Japan anyway. As the thread said, the authors allowed publishers to censor their works for financial purposes, not artistic purposes.

Licensed publishers are stuck in an untenable position. They have to censor to avoid antagonizing parents but censorship is just one more reason why they are losing customers to scanlations. I can empathize with them to an extant but that does not mean I will buy their crap, especially when the scanlators have a better product.

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» Crenshinibon on March 26th, 2012, 6:35am

Quote from drunkguy
I'll concede censorship isn't at the top of most reader's radar (though I hope SOPA, PIPA and ACTA are still in people's memory). Consumers are more worried about the many other glaring issues with printed manga such as availability, rising costs, delayed release time and an unfortunate risk of can ...


Again, I understand your position, but I don't agree with that last line. The scanlator translations are unequivocally inferior, and occasionally border on gross inaccuracy, which to me suggests a vastly inferior product more often than not.

But then, I can just go read it in Japanese, so for me, it's a non issue.

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» drunkguy on March 26th, 2012, 10:02am

Wish my Japanese was better so that I could join you. I personally do not feel scanlator tranlations are so inferior. Yes there are often more issues with grammar, typesetting, and even translation but they are generally good enough. Besides, you can find just as many people if not more complaining about unfaithful, poorly edited, and censored translations for licensed titles as scanlations; regardless of whether they came from Viz, Tokyopop, CMX or any of the big companies.

What makes them superior to licensed print is the fact that scanlations tend to be far more up to date than licensed titles, entire libraries can be stored on a tablet, laptop, e-reader or even smart phones, and censorship isn't an issue. Physical media is dying. Manga will die with it if it doesn't go digital and learn to compete with scanlations the way anime did with fansubs.

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» BlackOrion on March 25th, 2012, 9:51am

isn't this almost the same as that other thread "if price wasn't an issue"

'cos it sounds about the same none


If it was cheaper i would still have some problems since there is not much market for manga in my country, it would be easier to bought it online tough,

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» Seijurou on March 25th, 2012, 9:51am

I agree with the two above me, Drunkguy & Cuthien. For me, it comes down to the quality of the translation & its faithfulness to the original work. As an example, I could not continue Battle Royale because Tokyo Pop had butchered it so much, the manga (if it can still be called that) became unrecognizable to me (think of an old man's idea of American teen slang put in every sentence; yeah, that bad).

I am forced to quote someone by saying, 'Don't be smart; just translate.'

Apparently, companies do this Westernization in order to attract 'new blood,' but what they don't realize is that they are repulsing some of the existing fan base. Just look at what happened to Tokyo Pop, who had to close down; Viz should learn from their mistakes.

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» Mr. sickVisionz on March 25th, 2012, 1:18pm

I'd only buy a bit more. I haven't purcahsed manga in well over a year and the only tiles I have an interested in buying are Gunslinger Girl (which hasn't come out in the US in years), Ichigo 100% (which I think got dropped), and Nana (which is on hiatus). I own volumes of all of those (18 of Nana, 10 of Ichigo 100%, and all of the post anime season 2 GG that is available in the US) and would be buying solely to complete something that I set out to do back when I was really into manga.

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» Caityluu on March 25th, 2012, 2:18pm

I don't have the space, and it's not like what I would buy is in english anyway.

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» Zina on March 26th, 2012, 5:54pm

When I think, "OH! I really love Skip Beat and it's here at the bookstore. I should buy a whole bunch!" then I remember that I don't have 300$ lying around. If it only would cost me 150$, I could definitely do it in sections and buy 10 volumes at a time. But 300$ is way out of my range for being fiscally responsible.

That's why I buy my favourite mangas, as long as they are released in English and less than 10 volumes long. eyes

Anyways, I picked "I would but significantly more volumes". Basically, I would buy even the longer mangas like Skip Beat, but there is no way that you'll ever find copies of Gantz in my room. XD

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» lys on March 27th, 2012, 8:15am

I had this sense of intimidation when I wanted to start Skip Beat! a couple years ago ago (I think it was up to v17 or 18 here at the time, and I knew it was still going in Japan). So I found the series at my library, and read a ton of it there, but I picked up a few volumes here and there at my bookstore when I was too impatient to wait for library copies. After catching up, I've since worked on filling in the gaps, and one source that helped me was RightStuf, which fairly regularly offers sales like "All Viz books 33% off!" (or Kodansha, or Vertical, or Yen Press...) I have a membership at the site (because I found I couldn't stop buying during such sales) which gives me an additional 10% off. And through Skip v17 or so, the prices are $8.99 instead of $9.99, so 40% off (sale + membership discount) brings a book to just $5.39.

Also, Viz just released a collection of v1-3 for $15 (which, hey, is half the price of 3 individual volumes!). They usually release three collections this way (through v9 of a series), so it's a good way to start your collection!

(still, Skip Beat! and Kaze Hikaru are rather exceptional in my collection—most of my series are on the shorter side. I don't have energy to keep up with never-ending shounen manga)

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» Zina on March 28th, 2012, 11:25pm

Wow! That's really cool. Thanks for the info. I'll probably look into it. I always just look through Amazon and sadface at the prices then completely forget that there are other ways to buy manga. *facepalm*

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» lys on March 30th, 2012, 11:30am

Yay, glad to help biggrin I used to buy from Amazon too, but once I discovered RightStuf and its sales, Amazon's "Buy 3, get the 4th free" offers didn't seem that special anymore. (I still buy a few titles from my bookstore, because it's a cool independent one and I want to support it, but I follow so many series that I really appreciate opportunities to get stuff on sale!)

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» Brda on March 26th, 2012, 8:56pm

I wish the shipping fee is cheaper, since not all countries has the luxury of free shipping and with EMS (and like) as an only option it can be quite ridiculous. dead

But back to the poll question, if manga were cheaper, I'd probably go back to experimenting again. I used to buy unknown stuff now and than, sometimes with a terrible result, so now I try to get a reliable feedback before buying.
However, if the manga is cheaper I could treat some of them as I buy magazines for example - just for quick reading before recycling, if I don't like or want them anymore.

And as some already mentioned, not only the price, but the fact that many titles are not available at all is quite a problem. sad

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» Shardnax on March 31st, 2012, 10:55am

EMS is insane. A couple volumes of manga shouldn't require EMS though :S.

I only buy a couple series. As long as I can get the volumes for $10 or less. I'm good.

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» Badkarma on March 26th, 2012, 10:12pm

For me, what it boils down is this: space.

I have three bookshelves full of manga, and even then I have to stack some on top/over crowd the shelf... whatever. Point is, if I had a physical copy of everything I've read, I'd need a storage unit or a second house.

I could sell the junk I've already read to free some space, but then I'd hate it if I couldn't reread a manga when I'm discussing something, so that's out.

I mean, look, I ain't no cheapskate; I'll always buy if it's an option. I genuinely love manga and wish to contribute. I just wish for companies to see my problem, or rather, the world's problem: the convenience of digital, space-less files vs. books - or the combination of both. Hey, don't get me wrong. I like my books, but I seriously can't afford the space to grab everything I might want to read.

Viz seems to get it... somewhat. I have their app on my phone and buy junk from them if I have to, but if other companies refuse to conform, obviously I'm gonna grab the scanlation.

Conform or die, English manga companies.

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» Unknown on March 28th, 2012, 4:41am

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» orpheus17 on March 28th, 2012, 9:07pm

My problem is that most of the manga I read are only in Japanese. I can't read Japanese, so it is pointless for me to buy them. I do read Blood Alone, and I buy it WHEN they get around to translating and publishing it. I'm almost glad that I don't read a lot of manga that are published in English because the releases are so damn slow.

The price of Blood Alone doesn't bother me. It might be $10...not much honestly. I guess if I was buying a lot of manga at one time, I would like cheaper prices, but if it's just one, it's fine with me.

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» AliceinAmestris on March 28th, 2012, 10:29pm

If the mangas I read are liscensed in English then I would definitely buy them. I just love reading on paper as opposed to on a screen. It's better for my eyes and I love the feel and smell and overall experience of a book. Call me a book otaku biggrin

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» mu2020 on March 29th, 2012, 1:06am

there is a time when paper mangas published in my country were around 40% cheaper than they are now... that is b4 the global economic crisis, when the national currency is stronger...
yet compare to that time, the amount of mangas that i buy nowadays are higher..
i don't think price tag would effect my decision to buy mangas much (if not at all)

ps: if u're lucky you might find a big set manga with a huge discount (50%) in the book store here (usually old titles).. that's how i complete my aria-aqua set.

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» forror on March 30th, 2012, 1:25pm

Assuming price is the only change, I'd use the money I'd save to buy more manga (and shelves). Simple as that.

I visited Waterstones a few months ago and happened upon an entire stand of Berserk volumes selling for £2 (approx. $3/4). eek

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» lambchopsil on March 31st, 2012, 12:48pm

Poll's over:

Question: If paper manga were 40-50% cheaper, would you be more likely to buy it?
Choices:
I would buy all my manga - votes: 3079 (21.3%)
I would buy significantly more volumes - votes: 6528 (45.1%)
I would buy a bit more - votes: 2239 (15.5%)
I would not buy more - votes: 341 (2.4%)
I would buy less - votes: 29 (0.2%)
I prefer buying electronic copies - votes: 623 (4.3%)
I would only read scanlations - votes: 1633 (11.3%)
There were 14472 total votes.
The poll ended: March 31st 2012

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