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New Poll - Rating Series
This week's poll is from our member nowyat. It's an examination of how you tend to rate series. Do you tend to rate with a normal distribution or is it skewed in one direction? You could even think about how you rate things on Yelp, Amazon, Netflix, etc. I feel most people tend to rate things on the good side just to be nice. Unless it's really bad, then tank that score to a 0

Edit: Added another option, so you'll need to re-vote
Edit 2: Forgot another good option

You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: Which aspect of a translation is more important to you?
Choices:
Accuracy: I like manga translation to retain characteristics of the language of the original, to show the linguistic and cultural differences between Japanese culture and my own. - votes: 9633 (73.6%)
Fluency: I like manga translation to read as if the author was native English speakers, so that linguistic and cultural differences are minimized. - votes: 3458 (26.4%)
There were 13091 total votes.
The poll ended: May 3rd 2013

Good luck to mattfabb on analyzing this data and writing a university-level paper.
Posted by lambchopsil on May 4th 6:15am Comments ( 35 )  [ View ]  [ Add ]
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» calstine on May 3rd, 2013, 11:26pm

Second option for me, but not because I'm easy when it comes to ratings. If I don't enjoy the story, I just stop reading in the middle without bothering to complete the series (unless it's a oneshot or a single/double-volume manga, in which case I do - usually, but not always - see it through to the end even if I dislike it); and, on principle, I never rate a manga I haven't read to completion, so very few of the series on my complete lists are rated below a 5, because any series that's longer than 2 volumes which I think deserving of a rating lower than 4.5 or so is on my unfinished list, and therefore not rated.

My general rating range is 5 to 9, with lower than 5 being oneshots or short manga that I didn't like but finished anyway, and higher than 9 any manga (oneshot, short or long series) that I liked very, very much.

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» silent killer on May 3rd, 2013, 11:28pm

Needs option for rating only really good or really bad things. everything else gets no rating normally.

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» lambchopsil on May 3rd, 2013, 11:59pm

Quote from silent killer
Needs option for rating only really good or really bad things. everything else gets no rating normally.

Drat, didn't even think of that option. I'll add that now

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» forror on May 4th, 2013, 12:55am

I only rate the stuff I enjoy (6 and above) and/or I'd like to reread.

EDIT: It's more just a reminder for myself. If it's not memorable or I'm never to look at it again, I'd rather ignore it than clutter up the space with all these ratings. The only exceptions are manga I've already purchased (although if I do love it enough, I'd also give it a rating - just to be nice).

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» tactics on May 4th, 2013, 1:33am

I don't really bother.

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» Nyajinsky on May 4th, 2013, 2:45am

I rate so, that I have about the same amount of 1's, 1,5's, ..... 9,5's and 10's. average is about 4.

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» Wyllia on May 4th, 2013, 4:32am

I generally give high ratings because if I don't find it truly entertaining I just drop it there and then, I see no point in wasting time reading something I think is boring or just straight out bad.

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» MatrixM on May 4th, 2013, 5:32am

There's no option for legitimately giving the series the rating it deserves... >.>

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» Pervserk on May 4th, 2013, 8:24am

Quote from MatrixM
There's no option for legitimately giving the series the rating it deserves... >.>


Thats fairly usual for these polls, no offense intented to whoever makes these.

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» strixflash on May 4th, 2013, 8:56am

I generally rate everything I read.

Quote from MatrixM
There's no option for legitimately giving the series the rating it deserves... >.>

Agreed and that's why I didn't bothered to vote.

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» PrincessVera on May 4th, 2013, 9:55am

yeah, I was looking for this option too...

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» lambchopsil on May 4th, 2013, 10:46am

Whoops

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» quark1020 on May 4th, 2013, 12:09pm

The option is there now, for what its worth.

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» imercenary on May 4th, 2013, 5:40am

Second option for me, but I actually use the low end of the scale when I think its needed.

It seems like most people think highly of everything or they don't actually use the low end of the scale; there are so many 8s, 9s and 10s yet so few 1s, 2s, or 3s (outside of hentai mangas, which is most likely the result of bashing).

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» Strawberry-Pie on May 4th, 2013, 6:17am

I identify most with the "Most series are average, so most series get a 5" option. Most of the series I read I rated between 3 and 7. Less than 3 means it was really bad and more than 6~7 means it was above average at least.

While rating I try to make a compromise between how much I liked it and how good it was in more a technical sense, like the quality of the storyline and of the drawings.

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» Psychameleon on May 4th, 2013, 8:27am

I read mostly yaoi and a lot of them are wayyy too overrated, so I tend to rate negatively when I feel that a manga doesn't deserve its high ratings.

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» train93 on May 4th, 2013, 8:53am

I don't know if I should have voted the third option instead of the second, but to me average is 6, not five, so I guess I give good ratings?
I adopt a scientific method about rating: I rate separately five aspects of the manga, which are plot, characters, characters development, ending (only for completed manga), and art. Then I do the arithmetic mean.
Of course it's still a lot subjective, but this way the rate is probably more meaningful.

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» kaloo on May 4th, 2013, 10:46am

Well, I tend to rate high, but I think that's because I only really rate things I've read a large chunk of. Actually usually I only rate things I've finished. When I read the first chapter of something and go, "I'm not going to like this." I generally just never look at it again. I feel like giving it low rating because it doesn't match my taste would be rude.

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» MewMan on May 4th, 2013, 12:22pm

I don't give out 1 or 10
Most series got 4-7

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» Identity Crisis on May 4th, 2013, 2:34pm

Quote from MewMan
I don't give out 1 or 10
Most series got 4-7


This. I've given a few that were 2 or 3, or 8 or 9, but never 1 or 10. Almost all that I've taken the time to read fall in the middle.

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» Gator100 on May 4th, 2013, 12:45pm

I don't rate things I don't finish and I never am able to finish anything I consider bad. So this poll needs a "I tend to only rate good series because I never finish bad ones"

My only exception to the above is when a series gets really bad after I am invested in it and I feel forced to finish it. Even then I tend to give a mixed score because I had liked it at one time. I don't really know how someone can stand a series long enough to give a fair 1 or 2 score unless they are a professional reviewer.

The poll also needs a "I vote based on how much I want to alter the average, so I tend to vote either 10 or 1" option.

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» giinko on May 4th, 2013, 1:22pm

I try to always give the manga a rating it deserves, but hey, one is usually rather subjective when it comes to rating. You can be fanatic about one manga and loathe the other to no end.

I have a lot of in-betwwen number, like e.g. 6,4 or 6,1 or 3,2. I actually do consider a lot giving a rating, except for the one I can't stand, those are immediate 1. Sometimes I give a manga I like a better rating than usual because it is not noticeable enough. In other cases, I give an overrated one a lower rating so it can "die down" a bit.

Well rating is actually quite useful when it comes to choosing a manga to read, since most people look up what gets a better reviews, so I think it's quite appropriate to take the task seriously.

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» BlackOrion on May 4th, 2013, 1:38pm

I just vote series depending on their current rating, i would vote with 1-3 if i consider it is over ratted and the other way around too, 7-10, if i found a manga i consider underrated. If the manga's current rating agrees with me i just vote however i feel, i use all numbers because for me they are there for a reason.


but to be honest i can't take the rating too seriously, there are many reasons for a manga to be rated lowly and it's the same the other way around, I usually just read the summary of the manga and then give it a try regardless of its rating.

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» Trimutius on May 4th, 2013, 4:26pm

I usually give 6-8.8 points to series.
If series is higher than 8.9 points then I consider it to be very good series. Several of my favourites have 10 points assigned by me.
4.5-6 means that i didn't really like the plot in the series.
below 4.5 means that i consider this series to be bad.
Few series received 1 point from me, usually it is something that I can't read at all...
You will not even find series below 4.5 in my public lists as I don't want to advertise them.

And yes I give decimal point digit. between 4.8 and 10.0 all 53 positions are occupied by at least 1 manga or novel.

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» Harimau on May 4th, 2013, 8:24pm

Definitely someone who rates the extremes.

Usually I have to be impressed enough to go to the series page and rate it a 10, or on the other hand, disgusted enough to go to the series page and rate it a 1, before promptly removing it from my reading list.

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» evilcleo on May 4th, 2013, 8:55pm

I'm usually for extremes. I mean, for most series there is a target audience and just because it might not be something that gains your interest, doesn't make it horrible for that reason alone. If I find one that bad or that good though, I'm enticed to give a rating. Fortunately, I've only read one or two mangas that are truly horrible, so horrible I cannot see anyone liking it.

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» archknight on May 4th, 2013, 10:17pm

meh... I find it weird to rate series that aren't complete when the later chapters can turn shit. But I still do anyways in hopes of getting people to give it a try.

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» Suiren-nyan on May 5th, 2013, 9:20am

I really dislike when people go with the 1st option-- when they rate manga very high even when they themselves admit it's regular/cliche/nothing special, just because they "enjoyed reading".

When I look for manga to read I always first check the highest rated ones. I think the rating should reflect how good the manga is (our subjective opinion, to some degree), not just how much we enjoyed it (totally subjective). There are series I personally love that aren't great, I may still like them for various reasons, but it isn't hard to be a bit objective and don't rate everything that made me smile "10".

Said that, I also really dislike when people rate very low without any sort of constructive comment/explanation. Like, rating manga overall very low because of some theme that bothers us (for example big age gap between the characters in romance manga) or a type of character that we really dislike... never mind the art is great, story line unique etc. etc.

So yeah, I like when people try to be objective and fair when rating manga, not too biased.

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» Badkarma on May 5th, 2013, 10:25pm

I hesitate to put a numerical value on any form of entertainment I indulge in for this very reason. Everyone's criteria for what constitutes a score is completely different, and I myself can't relate my enjoyment of something in number form. I mean, I can, but I always end up falling into the trap of, "Hmmm... If this manga's a 7, then this manga's a 6.X, but it can't be below a 6.6 because I think that manga is worse than this one. Or is it? Mmmmmaybe, THIS one is supposed to be a 6.6, and THAT one is supposed to be a..."

And then I just end up with a headache.

Anyway, as I said, everyone rates things differently. Like the people who think there's some inherent rule that says a rating MUST be based on "objective" factors, with how much you actually liked the manga as a small modifier to the overall score, which is completely ridiculous. Now, I can understand someone reserving 9's and 10's for truly great works and being a fair critic, but at what point does "being objective" cross into "being a pompous toad"?

I recently saw a post on another forum that almost made me fall clean outta my chair. I forget the actual context of the conversation, but one person was saying how they never give a game a 10 because everything has it's flaws or things that could be better. To which I thought, "Whatever. I don't agree with that at all, but do what you want."

Here's what made me scratch my head: Next post, some other bozo agrees with the previous poster, and says that he spent 2000+ hours playing Final Fantasy 11, and he really liked it, but gave it a 9 because "nothing's perfect."

Um.... WHAT? So... let me get this straight. You spent nearly a quarter-year playing this game, you really like it, but giving it a damn 10 is CRAZY because some arbitrary law you made up in your head says that nothing is perfect. You know what? You're right, nothing's perfect. So then given that nothing's perfect, why would you "objectivity" judge subjective things as if perfection were obtainable? I don't know, maybe I'm the crazy one, but I honestly can't follow that thought process.

EDIT: I forgot to mention this, but I also saw the same person on the same board do nothing but spew hate and discourage other people from playing a game that he gave a rating of 8.5 out of 10 to. Like, I'm not even trying to exaggerate, he had NOTHING but hate to preach and even prided himself on being a "hater". And yet...

8.5 out of 10.

Seriously. Three half-points from a 10, and if you think about it, since he never gives out a "10", an 8.5 is actually only two half-points away from the highest score he'll ever give.

THAT, my friends, is one finicky scale. I swear... there's something wrong with people...

Of course, now I'm rambling. Long story short, my rating system boils down to this:

I liked it.
It was pretty good.
It was alright.
I didn't like it.

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» NightSwan on May 6th, 2013, 12:07am

Now that "I believe I legitimately give a rating that the series deserves" was added, I can vote.
I try to vote according to what I think the series deserves.
It's all personal taste, of course. I rarely vote 1s. Although I used to give out a lot of 10s.
I try to stick to a more accurate evaluation nowadays.

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» oxymoron89 on May 6th, 2013, 2:00am

Hmm come to think of it. If I like a series I'll give it a 10 or 9.
If I don't like it I won't even give it a rating because I couldn't care less.

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» That3rdGuy on May 6th, 2013, 6:23am

I rate most series around average, but many of those don't even deserve that. I'm surprised that some of this titles get serialized, even more so that they sell. They are just terrible. Perfect example is "Hatoful* Boyfriend" (I still laugh at my comment on there). Not only is the title retarded and fundamentally incorrect*, but anyone who reads a series based off of a dating game with birds has serious issues and should try to make friends (the first time I saw the cover page for it i nearly pissed myself laughing because the filthy pigeon is wear a tie--a fucking tie--lol). Anyways, I usually keep my rating between 3 and 8, but mostly rate series on or below 5. They simply suck and aren't worth reading. And to those who have complained about my comments: I'm entitled to my own goddamned opinion and I shouldn't have to state "IMO" every time, so get the fuck over it. You know who you are. o_~*

*"Hatoful" is supposed to mean "heartful" in this title, which isn't a word (fuck you Merriam-Webster "Unabridged" Dictionary, you are wrong and are money hungry retards) . Also, if you're going to write a translated from Japanese words/symbols, it should be "Hatofuru." Yes, I know it's included in associated names, but you just don't write a word phonetically (as most Japanese would pronounce it) just to give up half way and add an English suffix. no
Rabble rabble rabble!

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» zeusosphere on May 6th, 2013, 2:05pm

Generally only rate stuff I really like... which means I tend to give ratings of 7-9.5 (anything lower doesn't get rated, and 10 is reserved for absolute favorites that I consider to be masterpieces). The ratings are pretty much gut instinct depending on how much I liked the pieces because I can't be bothered calculating their 'worth' or checking whether they match up with previous ratings I've given lol.

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» sarah-eats-cupcakes on May 7th, 2013, 6:32am

im also someone who rates the extremes
I either like or dislike a series. I seldom give out 5s or 4s or 6s...my ratings are usually either extremely high or extremely low

this is because I always drop a manga if I find it average...and therefore not rate it at all. but when I dislike a manga I vote it down(after dropping it, of course)

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» frodfy on May 9th, 2013, 11:30pm

I used to give accurate ratings taking as many aspects of the story into account as possible but I recently changed my rating policy because I found it unfair how most series that are not that great get extremely high ratings simply because of people irresponsible enough to give them 10's just because they happen to like the story. no

So now, I also give extreme ratings because that way it affects more the average rating. wink

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