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http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: You are creating a manga with a female character, so her bust size is...
Choices:
Impossibly large - votes: 503 (3.3%)
Big - votes: 1130 (7.4%)
Above average - votes: 3518 (23%)
Average - votes: 6359 (41.6%)
Below average - votes: 1624 (10.6%)
Tiny - votes: 603 (3.9%)
Flat-chested - votes: 666 (4.4%)
He'll be a male with manboobs - votes: 869 (5.7%)
There were 15272 total votes.
The poll ended: November 9th 2013
Average is...average... This definitely was one of our most polarizing polls in a while.
Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» deadphoenix on November 9th, 2013, 2:50am
"Nice for humor"
They give jokes but does not have a major influence for the story.
» RoxFlowz on November 9th, 2013, 3:03am
» forgottenone666 on November 9th, 2013, 4:11am
» Damnedman on November 9th, 2013, 5:02am
» zarlan on November 9th, 2013, 5:53am
It'd be interesting to see a series, where the mascot becomes the main character.
» whitespade on November 9th, 2013, 6:31am
read noramimi for mascot main character.
» zarlan on November 9th, 2013, 10:05am
Thanks for the suggestion, but that's not really the same kind of mascot, at all.
Everyone has one, they belong normal families, rather than a hero (or somehow special person) or hero (or special) team, the main character is a not so cute one...
» Damnedman on November 9th, 2013, 12:18pm
» zarlan on November 10th, 2013, 10:35am
Well I can see what you mean, with Sumomo. She's not, technically, a mascot, but... Yeah. She's, more or less, a mascot in all but name.
Nyan Koi, however... No. There are no mascots in Nyan Koi, nor any being who is similar.
» Damnedman on November 11th, 2013, 5:30am
» zarlan on November 11th, 2013, 7:17am
...
Recur enough? By that logic you might as well say that Misty and Brock, in Pokemon, are mascots.
» Damnedman on November 11th, 2013, 1:43pm
» zarlan on November 11th, 2013, 4:22pm
I never said that frequency of appearance is enough to make you a mascot. On the contrary, I was saying that being a mascot isn't about that.
There are certain things that make mascots, be mascots. How frequently the character appears, is not one of them. It'd be weird and bizarre to have an infrequent mascot, but they'd still be mascots. Frequency of appearance is not a defining characteristic ...and I don't see how Nyamsas or Tama possess any characteristic, which is typical of a mascot.
Also: Nyamsas and Tama aren't animal-like creatures. They are cats. They are about as far from being animal-like creatures, as you could possibly get.
» Damnedman on November 12th, 2013, 2:53am
» zarlan on November 12th, 2013, 1:00pm
An animal cannot be animal-like, it IS an animal!
A factoid (-oid means "like") is a false statement that looks like a fact.
An android (andro=man) is a man-like robot. A man is not an android.
Sure Luna in Sailor Moon is a cat, but she's not just some normal cat. She's magical, unnaturally wise/intelligent and able to talk.
Nyamusas and Tama are perfectly ordinary cats.
I have nothing to substantiate my arguments, other than saying that I am right and you are wrong?
That is utterly baseless slander!
I have pointed out that frequency of appearance, doesn't work and that cats aren't animal-like ...thus I've shown all of your arguments, for why they could be mascots, to be wrong.
Could you please state what you consider to be the defining characteristics of a mascot? ...and how those characteristics, makes them differ from side-characters?
» Damnedman on November 12th, 2013, 2:13pm
I stated my opinion (frequency of appearance is a trait of mascots). You say my opinion is wrong (frequency doesn't matter). Then you reiterate that I'm wrong based on the fact that you're right (mascots can appear infrequently). That's your entire argument. So no, you didn't substantiate anything other than saying I'm wrong. If you don't think regular animals can be mascots, then fine. That's your prerogative. I don't have to agree with you.
» zarlan on November 12th, 2013, 4:44pm
Animals do not resemble animals. They are animals.
You cannot be said to resemble something that you are. That is simply nonsensical and goes against any definition of the word.
Arguments that are purely about semantics, and stray from the issue, is one thing. Semantics that are central to the issue, however...
To avoid that, is to make any argument meaningless.
What use is there in trying to talk, if one does so with mutually incomprehensible words? You would have a better understanding of the conversation, speaking to someone who speaks a different language.
Without semantics, there is no language. Without language, there is no possibility for communication.
Communication without semantics, is pure nonsense.
In which case Misty and Brock are mascots. Thus, frequency of appearance is not really a defining trait of a mascot. Even if it is a trait of a mascot, it is not nearly enough.
I said your opinion was wrong, and then presented clear evidence that it was wrong.
That is all there is to my argument, because that alone is enough.
If you think that you aren't wrong, just because such pitiful things as mere reason and evidence isn't enough...
Well, you may reject such things, if you wish to do so.
Clearly trying to argue about anything with you, is a waste of time. I obviously overestimated you.
Indeed.
» Damnedman on November 12th, 2013, 6:17pm
» zarlan on November 14th, 2013, 5:33am
Good.
So... You mean "animal-like or cat"? Or rather "animal or animal-like"?
Problem is, I don't know of any case of a character, which is clearly and unambiguously stated to be a mascot, that is just a normal animal.
As far as I am concerned, a mascot cannot be just a normal animal.
I refuted what you stated.
If that isn't your actual claim, then that is a failure on your part, in expressing yourself. Now express yourself properly, so that I don't have to waste my time.
I never said you did.
You said that Nyamusas and Tama could count as mascots, because of their frequency.
I pointed out that, that isn't enough to make them mascots, and pointed out that you need more than that to be a mascot. Thus making it clear that you'd need to demonstrate more than just frequency, to support the claim of them being mascots, for that claim to have any basis.
Surely you would agree?
Yet you have failed to provide any further characteristics of Nyamusas and/or Tama, which would make them mascots.
Even the point of "animal or animal-like", if I were to accept it, would still not be close to enough, by any means.
Neither of these are characteristics which truly make a mascot, be a mascot.
BTW: Merle in Escaflowne is a cat-girl (e.i. animal-like) that appears frequently. I cannot see how any sane person would call her a mascot.
What, so that you may hide your views from others?
Why should I go from expressing my views to many, to just one? I see no benefits to me, whatsoever.
We could split of into a separate thread, but... it's not like this thread has any other use, from what I can see. (please do correct me, if I'm wrong)
If you want to end discussing the matter in the forum, that's your choice, but I have no intention of continuing it in PMs, either way.
» Damnedman on November 14th, 2013, 10:30am
Edit: Ahhh, I see. We've been arguing against different statements. I clarified the argument in my PM.
» zarlan on November 9th, 2013, 5:52am
For an good explanation, please see this video.
It should be "couldn't care less".
» whitespade on November 9th, 2013, 6:20am
» SinsI on November 9th, 2013, 6:26am
Example: Menchi from Excel Saga
» Dionaea on November 9th, 2013, 7:02am
Timcampy <3
» lynira on November 9th, 2013, 12:12pm
But, I feel like using using such characters as nothing more than cute pets (as in, they don't do anything else but look cute) is cheap--if that's all it's going to do, don't make it sentient, and don't give it so much attention.
» tactics on November 9th, 2013, 3:11pm
» Sapphire07 on November 9th, 2013, 8:48pm
» yarn on November 10th, 2013, 8:14pm
I vote for #4, since they're tolerable if they actually do something. But if they have to be there for a functional role, I'd prefer they not be cutesy.
» yuri999 on November 11th, 2013, 5:45am
» TundraDweller on November 11th, 2013, 10:59am
I'm generally okay with mascot characters that don't affect plot, because then they become more than what they are supposed to be, IMO. It should remain the pet, and if in a comedy should provide much, if not most, of the hilarity that the MC is involved in. If not a comedy it should be a character that the reader feels attached to and interested in, so it could be cool, smart, mysterious, outspoken, etc.; some unique character trait to make it a part of the reading experience different from a regular extra or minor character. I couldn't care less for cuteness, and their mere presence doesn't elate me either. I don't think they are wholly unnecessary because it all depends on how the author deals with it. I don't prefer the mascot to "serve a functional purpose" because that's expecting too much of a mascot, again IMO. So, I'm okay with them, and will reserve judgment for when I actually see how it is presented in a story.
» Bedouin on November 12th, 2013, 6:47pm
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