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super thought provoking.. iLOVEit❤❤
Naoki-sensei really stirred up the mind to promote thinking in this oneshot. My theory follows->>
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My initial thought was that they both jumped @ end. Although after reading some of the other comments, im gonna have to go w the one below me/the "salesman wasnt real" route. Mostly bc the girl seemed depressed from the getgo (never going out, sleeping all day w the tv forever on, hoarder-like room, gets "worry" gifts from estranged mother) and i dont think any1 caught it, but you can tell how hopeless/numb she feels that day when she lets the "crazy guy" not wear protection for the first time ever & he goes all "..really?❤" when he asks where the condoms are. He didnt seem like the kind of guy she would intentionally want to procreate with, i feel like she despised him if anything . Then again, there's the chance she doesnt get preggers/could get an abortion; either way the initial action itself gives off the impression that she's just done & flat-out doesn't care anymore. That's why it makes sense to me that the imaginary salesman was a tool she subconsciously created to help her cope with/accept her decision (even though suicide by rockpaperscissors isnt the best way to go out, maybe to her it was reason enough knowing that "fate" was to blame and not herself..DEEP) So, i feel like she jumped and the ending scene shows the aftermath of how life went on after her death (the apartment emptied, crazy guy moves on, the tv was too old to keep/resell so it stays there as symbolism for the title--
a very good story with a classic moral..CARPE DIEM <3
... Last updated on March 5th, 2017, 10:58pm
I'd like to state that these are not my thoughts or insights I'm merely re-posting them here because I found them a poignant if rather melancholic interpretation that I felt others might find valuable.
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Posted on 28 April 2013, 16:29 UTC by dc_again I think the first guy was imaginary. The girl saw a story on television about guys like him who turned out to be scammers who take money from parents after offering to "support" their children. She used that story to imagine him up.
Imagined guy asks her to leave the room if he wins at rock-paper-scissors. They get interrupted before they can do it.
Some guy (a real person) comes by, has sex with her and leaves her money. He tells her to not change (either because he genuinely thinks she's good the way she is, or because he's using her for sex).
Imagined guy reappears. The girl tells him that she was supposed to go to an interview, but that she was late (because of sex). He tells her she still has time and gets her to take a shower.
Imagined guy "prepares" her food (in reality, they're food stuffs sent to her by her mother). She eats, and asks if he'd like to "..." her (verb omitted, but it's likely that she's asking if he wants to "fuck" her). He goes "huh?" and she says "No, nothing" (either because she realizes he's imaginary, or because she changed her mind).
Panels show that she's dressed and blow drying her hair, with panels of the train station interspersed. It's possible that she's just imagining the train station. In any case, she doesn't board a train.
She's on the roof with imagined guy. Imagined guy says she can try getting a job that doesn't involve trains. She says she'd like to do what he does and that she has "experience". It's possible that she's projecting onto him because of the parallel between him as a "support" guy (who t.v. said scams parents) and her (who lives off of stuff sent to her mother).
Imagined guy says he has "experience" too, but she says he's making stuff up to gain her sympathy. He admits it. This is his first job since he left his old firm. Again, it's possible that she's projecting her own state onto him (it's her first time leaving her room in a long time).
She asks if he can think of something fun. He brings up rock-paper-scissors again. She proposes that the winner jumps off the roof. He accepts and they start the game. It doesn't show who won, it just shows an empty roof.
Real guy goes to her apartment and finds it empty except for the t.v. He looks around, then leaves.
My theory: On the roof, the imagined guy mentioned that she "was close" to making it for the train and that she had plenty of time. Basically, while blow drying her hair, she realized that she could never board the train; her imaginary friend was aware of this and said she "was close" because she really was psychologically (not physically) close to going to the interview (before the blow dryer scene made her change her mind). In the end, she decided against going to the interview, but she had already resolved to leaving her apartment (by playing a game of rock-paper-scissors with an imaginary guy before she was interrupted). So, she went to the roof and then convinced herself to jump (again by playing rock-paper-scissors with that imaginary guy). Imaginary guy was imaginary, so he disappeared when she died.
Well worth a read
Indeed, this short is very thought-provoking. Perhaps not on the surface since it's the authors repeating panel shots that dull the variety. But because of the lack of any variety and any movement from our lead we have a contrasting story to what really happens when you do nothing all day. How much you accomplish and how much you can offer your surroundings when you just lie around the TV all day is portrayed in only a couple of panels. The ending may confuse some readers, but it's obviously aimed at an older target audience in the first place.
Naoki Yamamoto is the epitome for the saying: "Less is more."
... Last updated on December 5th, 2011, 11:24pm
the ideas are like all scattered and i didnt catch the lesson that the mangaka was trying to state in the end... somehow all the ideas didnt connect... and btw...this is the closest to hentai that i'll ever go...
<update> woooowww... after reading HCB's comment...my thoughts on this changed it was kindda true that thwre was somethings that cant be seen if you only look on the surface...maybe i was just a bit shocked by it that i hurried to the end...but that said im upping my rating from 3 to 6!!
... Last updated on September 12th, 2009, 9:33am
the redundancy of the obsolete
Usually the one-shots are purely conceptual or the digging of a specific idea. This one-shot throws some cool ideas into the table such as the exploration of the hikkikomori phenomenon and the use of "luck" in decisive actions in your life but doesn't develop any of them. This wouldn't be critical if it were entertaining on its own which isn't the case if you count out the final twist. The characters are invisible, the text is obsolete and the actions irrelevant. I still don't understand the necessity of sex parts in "all" of its works that appear out of nothing, with no context at all, again, I wouldn't mind it were appropriate of central to the plot but it isn't. With a title so promising of a critic to society, the futility of the information passed through tv or the dropped moral values of the oriental style of life and all you end up reading is a poor excuse for a one-shot.
......It was okay.......
.......I was looking for something by Takeuchi Naoko.....and I ended up reading this....0.o I've read seinen one-shots I've liked better, but I think this had some quality.
My take on how it ended.
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I don't think that they both jumped. That panel that suggests that might be just the artist trying to screw with our minds.
I have this feeling that Mado Akeru was the one who won, and he was the one who jumped, which might have prompted the change in the girl (as shown by the clean apartment at the end, i.e. she cleaned up her act). Or maybe she moved out, and leaving the TV behind is just symbolism that ties in with the title.
His death might be enough to make her change for good as he was the only one who visited her without (seemingly) any ulterior motives, unlike the "crazy guy".
i found it funny at some points but i can't say i understood the ending
OR /spoiler starts here/ it's the real obvious thing that they both jumped because they were frustrated with their lives...was that it? /spoiler ends/
it's not a waste of time though...i enjoyed it
Definitely well worth reading.
love this short
inventive, thoughtful, funny all that is Naoki Yamamoto.