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Koi ga Bokura wo Yurusu Hani  
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Description
A story about two college friends with girlfriends, who fall in love and engage in a relationship which is then scrutinized by all involved.

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Manga

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Associated Names
恋が僕等を許す範囲
戀愛允許的範圍
Koi ga Bokura no Yurusu Hani
Koi ga Bokura o Yurusu Hani
Koi ga Bokura wo Yurusu Han'i
The limits that desire allows us

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Latest Release(s)
v.3 c.13 by Nakama & Memory For You (3158d ago)
v.3 c.Side Story by Nakama & Memory For You (3158d ago)
v.3 c.12 by Nakama & Memory For You (3232d ago)
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Status in Country of Origin
3 Volumes 1996 (Complete)
2 Volumes 2009 (Complete)

Completely Scanlated?
Yes

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Average: 8.3 / 10.0 (250 votes)
Bayesian Average: 8.14 / 10.0
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Last Updated
June 25th 2013, 2:41pm PST


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Year
1996

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Activity Stats (vs. other series)
Weekly Pos #906 increased(+81)
Monthly Pos #1430 increased(+189)
3 Month Pos #1896 increased(+302)
6 Month Pos #2300 increased(+182)

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On 123 reading lists
On 188 wish lists
On 715 completed lists
On 33 unfinished lists
On 183 custom lists

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Better with age   
Rating: 9.0 / 10.0
by CuthienSilmeriel
September 7th, 2012, 9:15am
I first read this when I was still a teenager and had a very naive view. I felt the manga was confusing and illogical, that the characters were unrealistic and basically hated the whole thing.

I just re-read it with the benefit of a few more years and a whole pile more experience behind me. I LOVE it!!! Seriously, what seemed so convoluted and nonsensical before makes perfect sense to me. Yes, the whole situation is messed up, but that is the point! Relationships are not fairytales, people are misunderstood, feelings change, and often people are too scared or concerned to find happiness. I especially liked the way all of the characters were willing to sacrifice personal happiness for the happiness of the one they loved.

One of my favourite parts was seeing the difference between the way Reiko (the older woman) and Miku (the younger woman) handle the who situation. Miku loved like a girl. filled with dreams of marriage and unable to fully appreciate the consequences of her initial decision until it was too late to turn back the clock. She loved wholly and deeply, but without truly understanding her boyfriend, like she was more in love with the idea of love than with Fujio. Reiko, however, had the bittersweet love of a woman who no longer feels like she will be young forever, and is starting to feel the clock tick, so does not want to relinquish her tentative grasp on her boyfriend even know she knows full well that he will never be hers. Her willingness to compromise more, to support the males more fully, and her resignation in accepting the leftovers really defines her as a cool-headed, experienced business woman and sets her apart from Miku.

As for the boys, their reluctance to admit their feelings due to the expectations of society was very beautifully potrayed. The need to have rules and boundries, the desire to keep their girlfriends as justification, and the slow acceptance was what really defined this manga for me as outstanding. Sure, they acted in a strange way, did stupid things and were very frustrating at times, but that is love. People do not act rationally or logically when feelings are involved, especially feelings that have been repressed for so long. Both of them were desperately trying to wash away feelings that were only running deeper each passing year, they were unable to completely cut ties with each other and yet could not accept each other because they knew their passion would overrul their sensibilities. Watching them slowly break down the walls that have been in place for years was very moving.

I think it is a shame that English can not fully convey the delicate meanings of this manga, a lot is lost in the translation which can make the whole thing seem very confusing. I felt this could have been more appealing with a better translation.

Over all, this is a manga well worth reading. Just stick with it, it is worth the struggle and the whole things become clearer after a second reading.

P.S. To the people who are bothered by the fact a woman was made to get an abortion. SPOILER ALERT It turns out the woman was lying about being pregnant in the first place. I know it hardly justifies his attitude, but at least the woman was actually traumatised in that way.
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Complex   
Rating: 9.0 / 10.0
by voraciouszest
October 7th, 2008, 6:38am
When reading this manga, if you dropped the fact that it's sexy, funny and witty; you'd see some really challenging ideas about relationships. The story basically deals with the idea of pure love and passionate desire. In the end, what the protagonists learn is something more complex than you'd find in a stock-standard yaoi story. That being said, it still has all the staples; hot sex, great art (especially considering it was done in 1996) and plenty of boy-love drama.
I'd really recommend this series to anyone. Though if you want a light read, this might be a little too heavy.
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=]   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by Equilibrium
April 28th, 2008, 3:26pm
True that it satisfies all of my yaoi cravings AND both of the characters are actually men. I mean, I hate yaoi stories where they make the uke super delicate that he's almost a girl. NOT IN THIS ONE! They actually switch.
The story is really good but Motoni-sensei's works sometimes leaves me confused and most of the time I didn't get it but she's known to do that with her stories.
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The problem is the translation   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by daniyagami
October 20th, 2009, 10:43am
This is a story where the characters keep questioning if love (ai) can be stronger than desire (koi, but koi also means love). This was really hard to translate without make the whole manga loses sense. Even with the confusion caused between ai and koi the story is great, specially because of the humor. It's complex, funny and have a great ending. For me, one of the best yaois I ever read.
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Classic! Must Read!!   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by wiskiz
September 9th, 2008, 12:55pm
MOTONI Modoru Sensei has done it again! This has gotta be one of the best manga stories so far... with the best blend of angst, tension, complexity, fun.. love and desire (and smex)... gosh... and what's more... there's like no fixed seme/uke role... it's good...
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A MUST READ!!!   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by Serian
August 27th, 2007, 5:27pm
I'm not sure if this manga is my no.1 but its in my "TOP 10" or even "TOP 5". Its an interesting plot, with ups and downs, questioning the difference between love and desire. the ending doesn't give you a 100% solution, but that wouldn't be to easy, ne? Like ctmoes said really clever hilarious!

... Last updated on November 28th, 2007, 5:39pm
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ummm   
Rating: 5.0 / 10.0
by shanden123
June 21st, 2013, 2:35pm
okay its a yaoi but it wasnt arousing. its like reading a shojo.. the plot on the other hand was interesting, quite different, something i never read before.. i understood why it had 13 chapters cause it seems it wasnt the type to drag on are else it was gana be dropped or become boring..
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definitely different   
Rating: 9.0 / 10.0
by yarn
August 30th, 2012, 3:53am
It's basically a story of a bunch of sex friends who are (or rather, think they are) happy with their casual relationships. If focuses on two bisexual guys who are sleeping with each other. Each of them has a 'girlfriend,' and they're chill about what their bf's are doing together. The rest of it's all crazy drama as they all try to figure out what they really want out of relationships. [Hint: Maybe "going casual" isn't the best sort of relationship after all]

I rated it highly because it feels very *real.* It's like a soap opera. And when done right, that sort of thing can be interesting, as in this case. The characters have to travel a lot way and work through lots of fights and arguments and "acting out" to settle things.

If you want a nice, rosy story about sweet lovin' this isn't it. DON'T READ THIS STORY IF YOU LIKE PERFECT CHARACTERS. They are REAL characters. The kinds that make you want to shake them and slap them over the head. And there be lots of yellin' and slappin' and hurt feelings in here.

And if you only like "pure yaoi" (a.k.a. "no naked women") then you should probably steer clear too. Like I said, the guys are bi, they have their bedroom times with their gfs.

Notes to other reviews: Out of fan-translations I've seen, this is nowhere near the worst. Besides, what do you expect from unofficial translations you didn't pay a cent for?

And for the review about the abortion: yeah, the guy's a jerk; these are regular messed-up characters, and any way, you must not have read very far because **SPOILER** the gf lied about being pregnant so yeah, like I said...

... Last updated on August 30th, 2012, 4:02am
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I'm lost   
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by jpgosh
May 18th, 2012, 8:47pm
I really don't understand why this manga has such a high rating. The translation is bad and made me unable to enjoy it and follow the plot. Maybe it is unfair to rate it low because this is not the mangaka's fault, but the translator's. However, can't read Japanese so I'm stuck with the scanlated version, which in my opinion sucks.
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Grammar   
Rating: 7.0 / 10.0
by Ebony2448
January 18th, 2012, 1:55pm
I kind of really liked it but ended up deleting it because the translations sucked. It was very interesting though, and I loved the art, but the grammar brought a lone, solitary tear to my eye... ~_T

... Last updated on January 18th, 2012, 1:55pm
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