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Koi ga Bokura wo Yurusu Hani  
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Description
A story about two college friends with girlfriends, who fall in love and engage in a relationship which is then scrutinized by all involved.

Type
Manga

Related Series
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Associated Names
恋が僕等を許す範囲
戀愛允許的範圍
Koi ga Bokura no Yurusu Hani
Koi ga Bokura o Yurusu Hani
Koi ga Bokura wo Yurusu Han'i
The limits that desire allows us

Groups Scanlating
Memory For You
Nakama

Latest Release(s)
v.3 c.13 by Nakama & Memory For You (2825d ago)
v.3 c.Side Story by Nakama & Memory For You (2825d ago)
v.3 c.12 by Nakama & Memory For You (2900d ago)
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Status in Country of Origin
3 Volumes 1996 (Complete)
2 Volumes 2009 (Complete)

Completely Scanlated?
Yes

Anime Start/End Chapter
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User Rating
Average: 8.3 / 10.0 (229 votes)
Bayesian Average: 8.13 / 10.0
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Last Updated
February 9th 2013, 8:38am PST

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Genre
Comedy  Drama  Psychological  Romance  Slice of Life  Yaoi 
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Author(s)
MOTONI Modoru

Artist(s)
MOTONI Modoru

Year
1996

Original Publisher
Biblos

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Licensed (in English)
No

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On 165 wish lists
On 665 completed lists
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 Better with age   
Rating: 9.0 / 10.0
by CuthienSilmeriel
September 7th, 2012, 9:15am
I first read this when I was still a teenager and had a very naive view. I felt the manga was confusing and illogical, that the characters were unrealistic and basically hated the whole thing.

I just re-read it with the benefit of a few more years and a whole pile more experience behind me. I LOVE it!!! Seriously, what seemed so convoluted and nonsensical before makes perfect sense to me. Yes, the whole situation is messed up, but that is the point! Relationships are not fairytales, people are misunderstood, feelings change, and often people are too scared or concerned to find happiness. I especially liked the way all of the characters were willing to sacrifice personal happiness for the happiness of the one they loved.

One of my favourite parts was seeing the difference between the way Reiko (the older woman) and Miku (the younger woman) handle the who situation. Miku loved like a girl. filled with dreams of marriage and unable to fully appreciate the consequences of her initial decision until it was too late to turn back the clock. She loved wholly and deeply, but without truly understanding her boyfriend, like she was more in love with the idea of love than with Fujio. Reiko, however, had the bittersweet love of a woman who no longer feels like she will be young forever, and is starting to feel the clock tick, so does not want to relinquish her tentative grasp on her boyfriend even know she knows full well that he will never be hers. Her willingness to compromise more, to support the males more fully, and her resignation in accepting the leftovers really defines her as a cool-headed, experienced business woman and sets her apart from Miku.

As for the boys, their reluctance to admit their feelings due to the expectations of society was very beautifully potrayed. The need to have rules and boundries, the desire to keep their girlfriends as justification, and the slow acceptance was what really defined this manga for me as outstanding. Sure, they acted in a strange way, did stupid things and were very frustrating at times, but that is love. People do not act rationally or logically when feelings are involved, especially feelings that have been repressed for so long. Both of them were desperately trying to wash away feelings that were only running deeper each passing year, they were unable to completely cut ties with each other and yet could not accept each other because they knew their passion would overrul their sensibilities. Watching them slowly break down the walls that have been in place for years was very moving.

I think it is a shame that English can not fully convey the delicate meanings of this manga, a lot is lost in the translation which can make the whole thing seem very confusing. I felt this could have been more appealing with a better translation.

Over all, this is a manga well worth reading. Just stick with it, it is worth the struggle and the whole things become clearer after a second reading.

P.S. To the people who are bothered by the fact a woman was made to get an abortion. SPOILER ALERT It turns out the woman was lying about being pregnant in the first place. I know it hardly justifies his attitude, but at least the woman was actually traumatised in that way.
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 Complex   
Rating: 9.0 / 10.0
by voraciouszest
October 7th, 2008, 6:38am
When reading this manga, if you dropped the fact that it's sexy, funny and witty; you'd see some really challenging ideas about relationships. The story basically deals with the idea of pure love and passionate desire. In the end, what the protagonists learn is something more complex than you'd find in a stock-standard yaoi story. That being said, it still has all the staples; hot sex, great art (especially considering it was done in 1996) and plenty of boy-love drama.
I'd really recommend this series to anyone. Though if you want a light read, this might be a little too heavy.
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 =]   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by Equilibrium
April 28th, 2008, 3:26pm
True that it satisfies all of my yaoi cravings AND both of the characters are actually men. I mean, I hate yaoi stories where they make the uke super delicate that he's almost a girl. NOT IN THIS ONE! They actually switch.
The story is really good but Motoni-sensei's works sometimes leaves me confused and most of the time I didn't get it but she's known to do that with her stories.
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 The problem is the translation   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by daniyagami
October 20th, 2009, 10:43am
This is a story where the characters keep questioning if love (ai) can be stronger than desire (koi, but koi also means love). This was really hard to translate without make the whole manga loses sense. Even with the confusion caused between ai and koi the story is great, specially because of the humor. It's complex, funny and have a great ending. For me, one of the best yaois I ever read.
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 Classic! Must Read!!   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by wiskiz
September 9th, 2008, 12:55pm
MOTONI Modoru Sensei has done it again! This has gotta be one of the best manga stories so far... with the best blend of angst, tension, complexity, fun.. love and desire (and smex)... gosh... and what's more... there's like no fixed seme/uke role... it's good...
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 A MUST READ!!!   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by Serian
August 27th, 2007, 5:27pm
I'm not sure if this manga is my no.1 but its in my "TOP 10" or even "TOP 5". Its an interesting plot, with ups and downs, questioning the difference between love and desire. the ending doesn't give you a 100% solution, but that wouldn't be to easy, ne? Like ctmoes said really clever hilarious!

... Last updated on November 28th, 2007, 5:39pm
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 I'm lost   
Rating: N/A
by jpgosh
May 18th, 2012, 8:47pm
I really don't understand why this manga has such a high rating. The translation is bad and made me unable to enjoy it and follow the plot. Maybe it is unfair to rate it low because this is not the mangaka's fault, but the translator's. However, can't read Japanese so I'm stuck with the scanlated version, which in my opinion sucks.
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 Therapy, seriously... -___-   
Rating: N/A
by mlat26
September 24th, 2011, 10:38pm
Is a bit of a dysfunctional mess, actually a lot.....In my opinion they all need psychological help, and their morals are not the most commonly seen around, which for the average person would make reading this manga a little frustrating and confusing. It was hard to read at the beginning and I think some things are lost in translation, which takes away quite a lot and makes it confusing for the reader. Koi and Ai, I'm still racking my brains trying to get complete understanding of the meaning(I've Googled a lot) I guess I need a better knowledge of Japanese to grasp the concept better and maybe the English language doesn't have appropriate terms for those words to be translated properly.

If you feel like smacking and kicking the character a bit while reading, it is an understandable feeling D: I wanted to beat the crap out of them a lot(pardon my French) They lacked a lot in the IQ area, or maybe in common sense? I'm just glad I finished reading it and the ending wasn't tragic, if the mangaka had killed someone off I would have definitely had meltdown -_- I feel a bit drained, but I guess there might be people out there that go through similar circumstances?? I hope not sad I'm a fan of monogamous relationships so I was uncomfortable for most(all) of the manga. Gave it a five 'cause, not sure really. But if you want to read a different kind of YAOI manga then try this one. Happy Reading!!

P.S. For some reason I always end up disliking the women in YAOI mangas -_- they are just....So what if they are both men? butt out D: Love is all you need go find a straight guy <3

... Last updated on September 24th, 2011, 10:40pm
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 Spoiling TL   
Rating: 8.0 / 10.0
by Lillian
January 20th, 2010, 9:44am
Is it just me or is the wording of the TL by Nakama quite awkward? I had problems to follow the flow. Weird english. Took a lot of my entertainment. The quality of the scanlation, except the wording, is great though.

I couldn't sympathize with the characters for over 2 volumes, mainly because I didn't understand what they wanted most of the time - one sentence was contradicting the next or had nothing to do with the situation. I think I spent more time to figure out things with the TL than with the story and characters development. ;_; Well good it has pictures.

The pairs were weird.
Both men had girlfriends, ok there's nothing wrong with being bi, but those two girls initially got them together (as lovers) and plotted most their intimate meetings and set up situations for them to be together. One girl (Miku) even got mad when her boyfriend didn't have sex with the other guy - and gets mad when they're too close - um... okay... very weird. The other woman doesn't seem to have any use for her bf but sex and plotting.
I can't comprehend such weird behavior and the two guys had a weird relationship too which I couldn't really understand. That's another point why I didn't sympathize with any char there.

Midway volume 3 it all changed. Many things made sense because they started to explain certain aspects of their behavior. It was a real enlightenment and changed my opinion of the manga (rated it 6 till midway vol 2). The entire story was like a complex plot... which didn't even work out since it was seen through, luckily xD But was very interesting I must say. (No this is no spoiler, because when you get to the point when you notice it you'll be already half way through vol 3)
If just the TL wasn't so crappy I'd have enjoyed it much sooner :S

... Last updated on January 20th, 2010, 12:31pm
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 nono dont skip it lol   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by juls91
June 19th, 2009, 3:58am
its really a great manga, imo, one of the best yaois ive read V.V lol
ive never seen that kinda of relationship ... not one with 4 ppl..
yeah yeah even if there are things u dont get... the body speaks for itself lol
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