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Description
After constantly transferring during middle school (Warau Kanoko-Sama), Naedoko has entered Takara No Tani High along with Tsubaki. Follow her adventures as she tries to restore the Newspaper Club's status without being noticed by the Broadcasting Club or Student Council...!

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Associated Names
恋だの愛だの
恋什么的情什么的
情什么的爱什么的
情什麼的愛什麼的
戀愛這回事
才不恋爱
才不恋爱/小鹿的观察日记
才不戀愛
คาโนะโกะกับความรักอลเวง (Thai)
Koi da no Ai da no
Like and Love and
Love and Affection
Love and Romance

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Latest Release(s)

Status in Country of Origin
9 Volumes (Ongoing)

Completely Scanlated?
No

Anime Start/End Chapter
N/A

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Forum
4 topics, 32 posts
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User Rating
Average: 9.1 / 10.0 (616 votes)
Bayesian Average: 8.98 / 10.0
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Last Updated
October 12th 2014, 6:48pm PST

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Year
2009

Original Publisher

Serialized In (magazine)
LaLa DX (Hakusensha)

Licensed (in English)
No

English Publisher
N/A

Activity Stats (vs. other series)
Weekly Pos #158 decreased(-44)
Monthly Pos #66 increased(+18)
3 Month Pos #81 increased(+16)
6 Month Pos #65 decreased(-1)

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On 2730 reading lists
On 1024 wish lists
On 79 unfinished lists
On 446 custom lists

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Forum Posts
Chapter 7: I spy with my little eye: possible romantic rivals 191 days, 7 hours, 14 minutes ago
Kanoko, why don't you cut him a little slack? 977 days, 16 hours, 12 minutes ago
Tsubaki's "obviousness" 993 days, 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Naedoko's First Crush? 1036 days, 17 hours, 27 minutes ago

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My favorite   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by youichilover333
September 21st, 2014, 12:24pm
I have been reading manga since 2011- and I mean, pretty nonstop. I have read it all. Fairy Tail, Skip Beat, Maid Sama, Gauken Alice- you name it, I've read/watched/heard of it all. And in all of my otakuness, I can say with certainty that is is my favorite manga ever. I love it to the extent that I created a category for it on Fanfiction.

Naedoko just wants to be a refreshing shojo girl like her best friend, Momo. Tsubaki just wants Naedoko to notice him. The rest of the student body wants him to leave her alone so they can admire him in peace. That's right- this wonderful manga centers around the two least suited people for shojo ever. And that's what makes this manga so great.

Naedoko is cynical. She's a genius. She's insightful. She also happens to be completely oblivious to her own love life. Being that she has a tomboy figure and wears glasses, one would think the obliviousness wouldn't be a problem.

However, the ever handsome, ever popular Tsubaki doesn't really care. He has liked Naedoko since middle school, when she transferred into his class (and Momo's) for a few weeks. She doesn't care how hot he is. She also doesn't take his aloofness- she sees right through him and he fell in love with her. Though he is completely obvious, Naedoko, and the vast majority of the student body fail to see it. Only a couple of hilarious supporting characters understand both his love and her appeal.

Altogether, this manga is amazing. Despite the fact that Naedoko is, as I said, completely oblivious to Tsubaki's shallow attempts to get her to see him, it doesn't get old. The fact that they are best friends also adds to the mix. It is so refreshing to read shojo mangas without shojo heroines. Naedoko is the girl who makes fun of the helpless, innocent, typical shojo characters. Tsubaki so naturally loves such a strange, but secretly cute, girl without any forcing of emotions on the author's part.

I don't know how else to describe this masterpiece. It perfectly meshes comedy, drama, and romance into a perfect mix that doesn't over or underdo any of the three. Each and every character is unique and has a background, whether they are part of the story for three pages, three chapters, or three years. This manga is a definite read- I can't stress that enough. Now, stop reading this and start reading KDAD!

... Last updated on September 21st, 2014, 12:24pm
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Best Shojo Ever!   
Rating: N/A
by QQWAAS
September 20th, 2014, 3:11am
I have been thinking all the while I have been reading this manga, that's 24 straight from Ch1 till 29.
What was on my mind is simple, "This is outrageously good"
Then I thought about the rules I broke to enjoy this manga, I never read shojo, never pay attention to prolonged texts, never cared for catch phrases outside the speech bubble, and never ever thought I'd read a manga with those Genres or any of the categories either.
But I actually did, I even recommended to my friends proudly.
This manga is utterly the perfect shojo, perfect score and will read forever.
No more tho, I'd rather be impressed and in awe than look for similarities till it becomes regular, this was the one for me, it will always be and it was sheer fate that brought me here~
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the best manga for me...so far   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by hyejin18
July 28th, 2014, 6:53pm
I am waiting for the next chapters but i dont mind waiting even if it would take years because i love this manga soooo much.

I love kanoko chan because of her obliviousness towardd tsubaki.... i always like a female lead who dont fall inlove easily... and kanoko is just like that, not to mention that she's plain looking and smart and even thought she looked nerd, she keeps attracting bishies... heheehh i just love this so much.....

I know i said i could wait for the chapter release even if it takes years, but if it gets released earlier, i would be much happier... heheheh i love this manga so much... please try it!
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More than worth a try   
Rating: 8.8 / 10.0
by theoiseau
June 27th, 2014, 10:35pm
KDAD is, to me, essentially the kind of manga I wanted to read when I was a younger, cynical yet hopelessly romantic girl. The protagonist is the smart, likewise cynical, and perceptive female lead that I've always wanted to read about, as opposed to the clumsy, old school, shy and dense country bumpkin female lead I somehow kept stumbling upon during my searches for some shoujo series. Not only is Kanoko absolutely cunning, she's manipulative and rather harsh and, dare I say, cruel by shoujo standards, if there is such a thing. Despite this, she still manages to snag the heart of middle school and high school heartthrob Tsubaki, who sticks around for her adventures and journeys of fun and excitement. Even Tsubaki was like a male lead I've wanted to read when I was younger: he's sensible and not big-headed, he's not excessively mean or needlessly roundabout or indirect. He's also a very chill dude.

However, those were the tastes I had back then. While they have generally been unchanged, I do realize how much of this could actually lead to a slow and drab story. Though the characters themselves I may like, if the story isn't interesting or fun enough the series will just be average at best.

At this point in the story, I feel that the manga has just settled into itself. Though it started as a "battle of the Three Kingdoms" with a bit of "high school politics" (if you can call it that) being the main focus, it's moved more into the romance territory nearly all shoujo manga contain. I don't think it's ruined the series or anything like that, I DO read shoujo looking for love stories, but I am disappointed that the moments of cynicism and manipulation Kanoko displays frequently in the early parts of the manga are dwindling. Though the prequel was filled to the brim with satire on shoujo conventions, it seems that this series has been slowly falling into those tropes. I honestly wasn't expecting anything less, the premise of the series set itself up for that I believe.

So my "final" say? I think it's definitely worth a read, whether you absolutely adore shoujo, spit on it (I hope you don't), or are ambivalent on the genre. The protagonist pulls you in from the beginning, as does the frantic political maneuverings of these high schoolers, but whether or not you're willing to stay to watch the romance develop is up to you. Though the prequel is episodic, I think it's a good idea to read that first to get a feel for the series but do keep in mind that this main story ends up falling back to shoujo conventions. The story itself is average I'd say, it's only interesting when there's a big cast to jump back and forth between, with Kanoko being the driving force. I am looking forward to future romantic developments, but I hope the cynicism doesn't suffer for it.

As for the art, it's fairly standard. The girls are easy on the eyes, but sometimes the guys' faces and even proportions can be a bit... off? It feels off is what I mean. It's nothing amazing or masterful, but it's not terrible or distracting (99% of the time), so: average.

... Last updated on June 27th, 2014, 10:42pm
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Try it~~!   
Rating: N/A
by nyanya07
November 22nd, 2013, 5:57am
Kanoko is not dense, it's just that she doesn't come with a conclusion that the hero, Tsubaki which is popular that you can consider to be perfect will be in love with her. If Tsubaki will just confess that will turn the story into more epic, don't you think so? biggrin

Kanoko just doesn't know her merits, and considered herself to be lowest (something like that?)
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Goes downhill   
Rating: N/A
by ElanorR
May 24th, 2013, 10:01am
It started with gusto and was plot driven, unlike the prequel. But after a point, you get really sick of Tsubaki and his lolicon. Honestly, all the character development's gone down the drain. The storyline and characters are repetitive and uninspiring.
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Very Amusing   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by ScytheMaster14
April 5th, 2013, 6:28pm
I have to say that this is probably one of the best I've read. Kanoko isn't anything like what I've seen before, she is just awesome! i'm always so surprised by her reactions xD i can see why Tsubaki sticks around her. i also love how she tries to play the part of an observer in her high school, it really puts a new perspective on things. a very good romance if you're looking for something away from the norm
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Unlike its prequel..   
Rating: 8.5 / 10.0
by Jeshia
June 1st, 2012, 9:01pm
This manga is not as episodic. The plot is event-driven and not character-driven, but there actually is a (rather complex) plot. It manages to keep the witty commentary on the status quo as well as other mangas through Kanoko's POV.
IMHO, I think this manga is weaker than its prequel, simply because there is much less character development, despite the fact that it has an actual plot. It's got a lot of shoujo fanservice (because of Tsubaki) and tons of comedy, but it's not spectacular. The only thing that saves it from sinking below the depths is the exploration of Tsubaki's personality. Even though the development is minimal, it's nice to see what he's thinking all the time, especially in regard to his hopeless crush. The only problem is, by adding this huge smattering of romance to the plot, the author essentially cornered herself because of the heroine's rather cynical personality. I really cannot see this proceeding smoothly or realistically. Maybe some sort of epiphany will occur?

By the way, I should clarify something. The female lead is not stupid. Neither is she dense. She's just not aware of the effect she has on others. At all. Take Momoka for example. It took forever for them to become friends (both ways, mind you) because she did not realize nor accept the girl's sincerity. Ironically, she is wonderful at picking up on the feelings and intentions of everyone else except her own. (And occasionally, Tsubaki, but it's been shown that she mostly gets him, despite the fact that his obvious obsession with her confuses her).

Overall, it's a nice piece. Not great, but funny and cute and sincere. Far better than the average shoujo, but falling short of any sort of masterpiece. While its prequel was a witty commentary on shoujo cliches, this one attempts a plot drenched in romantic comedy, something that both helps it and hurts it.

If you like shoujo, read it. If you hate shoujo with a burning passion, I'd suggest just reading the prequel and then judge based on that. This sequel has made a return to shoujo roots.

... Last updated on June 1st, 2012, 9:03pm
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Cunning Female Lead <3   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by jnatsumi
May 1st, 2012, 1:43am
I love it. I love it. I love it.
The heroine is super refreshing! I was expecting another typical shoujo type girl, but this is different.
The dialogues are incredibly enlightening, refreshing, funny, and engaging.
The heroine is really observant, smart, sly, and cunning. She likes to observe people and "plot" when need be. She has perfected the whole people-watching routine. She loves information gathering and is incredibly good at it. As a result of her routine, habits, and favorite part time--we get a plot that's well thought out and entertaining.

The only things she seems to be not all-knowing are in the friendship and romance department (social stuff that has to do with her directly).

It's is ultimately a romance story.
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The main guy Tsubaki has been in love with Kanako for 2 years. Kanako is very dense, thus did not pick up Tsubaki's love for her even after all the "skin-ship" he had shown towards her. It's pretty funny how Tsubaki is worry over how to *firstly* make Kanako view him as a guy. Haha!! I admit, Kanako's obliviousness gets a bit grating at times because I just can't fathom how anyone can be that dense.
Is the romance developing at all? Sure, it is. Slowly. I anticipate some love rivalries soon and hopefully that'll get things moving quicker. (at chapter 10 at the time of this comment)

I would recommend this for anyone who's looking for a non-typical shoujo manga with strong, smart female lead and HOT male lead who fell in love first.

I think the thing that stood out the most in this manga for me (that made me fall in love with it) is the cunningness and the unique disposition of the heroine. She is the reason why I'm following this manga and silently thank (SOOOO MUCH) the scanlating group who's scanlating this!! smile

EDITED: OMG. I didn't know there was a prequel to this manga. Meh. Didn't read that and I'm still enjoying it just fine: you don't really need to read the prequel "warao kanako-sama" to understand/love this manga.

... Last updated on May 1st, 2012, 1:54am
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About this manga ...? Just read all our comment !!   
Rating: N/A
by chairi
April 27th, 2012, 2:12am
really refreshing and funny manga. Naedoko is my favorite female character and she's better than Misaki in KWMS, she's always thinking logical and really lack of love (or i can say, she's don't believe of love). I just feel sorry for Tsubaki and his one-sided love to her. a handsome and popular guy at school had one-sided love to a unpopular and four-eyed girl like Naedoko ( it's what all the people in this manga say) but that the funny about this manga.
Realllly worth to read for you who bored for normal shoujo manga !

but hope Naedoko will understand Tsubaki feelling for her and she keep being the Naedoko as always. and hope no love rival at this story ....
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