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The woman Tsutomu encounters in college was older and smaller than he is, and for some reason, looks like the same girl in his dreams. The heart-pounding love affair between him and the "older woman" begins.

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Manga

Related Series
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Associated Names
An Older Woman
Die Traumfrau (German)
Mysterious Love Comedy
年上ノ彼女(ヒト)
年上之彼女

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Free Time
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Latest Release(s)
v.6 c.40 by Free Time over 11 years ago
v.6 c.39 by Free Time over 11 years ago
v.6 c.38 by Free Time over 11 years ago
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Status
in Country of Origin
6 Volumes (Complete)

Completely Scanlated?
Yes

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Average: 7.8 / 10.0 (632 votes)
Bayesian Average: 7.73 / 10.0
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Year
2004

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Serialized In (magazine)
Young Animal (Hakusensha)
Young Animal Arashi (Hakusensha)

Licensed (in English)
No

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NEWSFLASH: thin, A cup, 150cm ~= 2/3 of REAL asian women in their 20s  
by Aadieu
October 11th, 2012, 12:31am
Rating: N/A
She's not a loli, she doesn't act like a loli, and she's not drawn like a loli... whether that's good/bad/irrelevant, YMMV.

Even her past (alluded to, never drawn) as a somewhat deranged man's underage wife - a decade before the story begins - never gets sexualized. At all...

Amazume really plays with subverting all manner of manga tropes here, making fun of manga stereotypes (older women, lolis, perverted harem-owning main chars, shoujo manga) by inverting the lot of them... until he tires of it all. Unfortunately (or, maybe, fortunately), the author grew out of this series and graduated to NanaKao, where, having found a more confident creative voice, he does away with the stereotype play entirely, making for far more original, sexier, less predictable fare.

Also, strangely *under*sexualized content for Mr. Amazume. Not BorderlineH, not by a long shot. Au contraire, an abortive attempt by an H-manga author to branch out into mainstream Seinen romantic drama, which due to customer demand got drawn out past its planned plot and got a bunch of nipples added almost as an afterthought

Some really good lessons to learn and a lot of valid insight, which unfortunately suffers from it's author's teething problems. 8/10
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Not Loli...  
by srrojo
October 19th, 2009, 6:50pm
Rating: N/A
The thing is, I've known J-girls as small as Ageha. And yea, they'd get picked on as 'kids' even into their 40s, partially out of jealousy from the other women over male attention. Gals that small are Japan's national treasure.

There's no really burikko / infantilism in T no H, at least not not the kind that I see in explicit Loli / Shota type hentai where they're going out of their way.
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a little note  
by RwR
July 23rd, 2007, 12:39pm
Rating: 9.0  / 10.0
Just a note on the "anatomy" bit: Yes, it seems that this mangaka prefers the ultra skinny type (although there are only 2 female characters with their ribs showing in the whole manga so far). But that is anatomically correct, so please no bashing on that matter.
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All good but one thing  
by andy_f
June 20th, 2014, 4:56pm
Rating: 7.0  / 10.0
Spoiler (mouse over to view)
How could he just run away and leave her alone when he found out he was pregnant. I mean i could understand that he be shocked, frankly who wouldn't be. Hell i'd even understand if he goes away for a day or two to be alone so that he could gather his thoughts and think about it properly.
But going away for aslong as he did and going off with another girl too is just unacceptable!!
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beautiful girls  
by whitespade
September 24th, 2013, 3:46am
Rating: 9.5  / 10.0
damn, amazume sensei really knows how to draw girl's body because they are sooo lush. i'm a straight girl, but even i get a little excited especially with all the bodily fluids dripping messily everywhere. however, he's not adept in drawing their faces because some of those long haired chicks look really similar.

the story is really good i think. i can never see the twists and turns, though they are just slight. and there is no excessive drama, nothing to pull my hairs at. at the end i'm empathising with that impotent boy - too little skill but too much pride. i think the mangaka made a great job in fleshing out all the characters - they are real, not just a template.

really, this is a very good manga albeit you can't read in front of your parents because those H scenes are really really good.

... Last updated on September 24th, 2013, 3:51am
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Good adult manga  
by markdarkangel
June 28th, 2008, 10:54am
Rating: 9.0  / 10.0
Well, i was looking for another Adult manga to read and i found this, and i must say i liked it right off the bat. The art is ok except for the writer making some of the girls looking like they r straving themselves but all and all its ok. The story is nice, the love romance is pretty sapppy at times but it grabs you.

Its completed but its like the translators ran way from the project and i can only hope i can finish it, its been months, come on!!!
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Really good only draws are below  
by ArkangelID
September 25th, 2010, 12:03am
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I was reading this manga because I like Nana to Kaoru like a lot, and when reading it I notice is really good manga, the relationship is well done, so bad I like the busty girl but really Age was more mean to be heroine, Dunno why they dont has finish this manga translation when the next part even is drama is no really hard. I wish the last volume can be complete in the future but if u are interested in the end get the raw the pictures tell the history pretty well too.
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Awesome characters and a fun story!  
by monkeyvoodoo
October 23rd, 2008, 12:42am
Rating: 9.0  / 10.0
I absolutely love the characters in this story. I love the exploration of the meaning of love in a world distracted by physical relationships. I also love how the author doesn't rely on cheap fanservice to keep the reader's attention -- there's plenty of nudity, etc, but it's never distracting. It never really feels like the plot is developed around finding excuses for fanservice. That content is very prevalent, but it feels like more of a part of the story, than an attention grabber. Of course, maybe that's just due to the nature of the story. Anyways, I thoroughly love the characters in this story, and definitely recommend it!

... Last updated on October 25th, 2008, 1:14am
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Enjoyable  
by evil-samurai
October 4th, 2006, 5:37am
Rating: 8.2  / 10.0
I really like the pace of the manga, Its quite fast. I get annoyed how you have to wait alot! of chapters for things to get sorted out, in this manga you really cant aford to miss a chapter.

Now onto the characters they are quite likable. I would of liked the guy to have a different design but what can you do? The girl is cute. Both of them are interesting in there own way, but what I really like about it is how well they get along.

I was suprized at how... er... young! the 'older women" looked, still if you can get passed it, the manga is good

... Last updated on October 11th, 2006, 6:37pm
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Let the shallow wars begin!  
by SacredAndrogyny
July 8th, 2012, 12:59pm
Rating: 7.0  / 10.0
It's things like some of the comments here, I'll admit. That are giving me a viscera hatred of large breasts. Which is sad, because hating a chest size probably isn't any better than hating a skin colour. But every time something remotely nice happens in terms of human sexuality, in comes the peanut gallery to say we cannot have nice things.

Several comments here are doing nothing to review this manga based upon the body type of Ageha. Not personality, not character development, not writing of the story. Her body. And then promoting Morino x Tsutomu based upon that. Well fine then, why even try to not be shallow. I'll be shallow, too. Ageha is a million times better looking than Morino. Not all of us are into ugly cow tits. In fact, if there's any complaints I have about Ageha's body, it is that it's too curvy. Her chest certainly isn't completely flat and she has a huge bottom, at least by my standards. The flatter a woman is, the better. And if this was a manga about Tsutomu and Morino, I'd be irritated at staring at Morino's cow utters all day. Amazume Ryuta likes small breasts? Good. I like small breasts too. Flat chests are justice. I don't know how anyone is into curvy women. I'd like to see more mangaka feel the same.

Well, onto some other related things. What is Toshiue no Hito? A really really dirty romance drama with, from what I've read so far, a tiny harem element that I hope to see not return at all. Of course, I've only read up to chapter 11 as I write this. What other people are commenting on negativity, is that this is basically one of those "guilt free lolicon" manga. It takes just about every thing that could possibly be wrong with "lolicon" even, and removes it entirely. Of course, as long as a character doesn't have DD breasts, there will be some annoying person out there who complains. But there isn't such a thing as truly "guilt free lolicon" in our current world, sadly, there is no safe haven or escape route.

You see, Toshiue no Hito is somewhat of an age play manga about an older woman, who is supposed to look much younger than she is. Possibly "like a kid", and an adult man who is several years younger. She is given an adult personality, though with some flaws, character development, and generally, the antithesis of what is seen as wrong or exploitative or anything about lolicon. She tip-toes on some lolicon fantasies, mostly, just the fact she doesn't have large breasts(about a small A cup) and is fairly short in stature. In everything else, she's more adult than almost every anime character ever, as most anime characters are teenagers. Ageha is an adult woman in her mid twenties, at the very least starts off assertive, is a college student, had previous romance and sexual encounters(is obviously not virginal), and even very clearly her face is adult. She has that "seinen adult" face, and her face doesn't much conform to "moe" standards at all, most adult anime characters actually have younger faces than Ageha. And the way the manga tends to focus on her face and angle her body, it's often hard to actually tell she's short. The manga definitely plays up her adult characteristics. If you're one of those people that's kind of lolicon but don't have anything really wrong with you and you just don't like large breasts, this is going to be one of those rare, guilt free manga.

Other than that, this manga has some ups and downs for me. I really liked how the manga started off, going against gender roles and pointing out some remarkably understated truths about human sexuality. For instance, that guys, obviously, can be raped by older women. Especially if they're minors. And can be traumatic experiences that cause troubles in their adult sexual lives. Also, that women can be sexually assertive and interested, moreso than the men in their peer group. Which Ageha starts as.

But, and don't read this if you don't want any spoilers, it quickly changes and has development, that while character development is good, goes right back into gender norms. Ageha becomes a damsel in distress. And certainly while anyone of any gender should take action when Ageha went, well.. It becomes this whole thing that Tsutomu needs to be a man and his sexual inadequacy as a backwards symbol for his lack of masculine assertiveness and dominance. Ageha's strength becomes this wilting flower and she harps on obnoxiously about how she's a predator and an old woman when she's in her twenties. She becomes the stereotypical, crying emotional wreck woman of almost every romance movie or comic ever. I'm sick of this sexist cliche. And Tsutomo, filling his gender role, becomes the "Knight in Shining Armor" to save the day. And Ageha, at least at this point, has become completely submissive and teary. Even doing the cliche "no, stop" and "no, not there" in the bedroom. Gee, you're such a predator Ageha, with all the "oh! I couldn't possibly be interested in sex! Oh dear oh Tsutomu!" thing. I like character development, that's good, Ageha seems like an adult human with flaws. I'm not sure I like everything it has entailed so far, though.

Also, in with the seinen demographic, I guess, the manga sexualizes the female characters all of the time with clothing and POV and so forth. There are random naked women all the time. Just like, any excuse will be taken. Ageha certainly isn't the only person you will see naked. But you will only see women naked unless it is a sex scene. Are heterosexual adult men so immature they can't be exposed to another man's naked body without feeling terrible?

I guess you can only as for so much. It's nice to see another romance manga about adults for a change. Adults with respectable, realistic personalities. A manga that isn't afraid to offend the sensibilities of people who are morally and sexually outraged to attraction to women with small breasts. It isn't afraid to blur the boundaries between porn and romance, and if all porn was like this, it would be a lot more wholesome. Most porn is about rape or domination and submission of some high variety, most sexuality in this is done is a purely romantic sense. And I like the moe aesthetic, but it's nice to see this kind of material done without resorting to the moe aesthetic. With all that, I suppose, again, you can really only expect so much. After all this nice stuff, there's a lot of various cliches, some of them kinda sexist.

From the sum of its parts, I think it's worth a go. If the negative parts aren't too irritating for you.
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