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SHTensai
Post #117189 - Reply to (#117164) by MajorMarmot
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Ninja villages business is to receive various special tasks as job offers, and we never saw Sasuke taking any kind of job.



I think he didn't go with Orochimaru to work in special missions, or did he?, he went for power. And Orochimaru wanted his body not him working in missions.

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He didnít attack Konoha Ninjas when they were doing their job or stop them in any way..



They were in a mission when they found him and Sasuke attacked Naruto, the mission was to bring him back.. So I think he stopped them and attacked them, they are konoha ninjas.

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He did go to another village that was competing against Konoha and KILLED the leader, Orochimaru, that was actually a villain that Konoha was trying to kill for some time before, doing a greater good to Konoha that if he was actually working for them



Selfdefense, as archspiritadvent said Orochimaru wanted his body so he killed him.. He wasn't doing it for Konoha roll eyes

I don't know how's that everything he did isnt betraying.

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Let's face it, Sasuke is a villain not a hero now, and the sooner Naruto wakes up and smells the coffee, the better.


Yeah, Naruto should do his job as the manga hero and kill that traitorous, arrogant and self-centered villain, he could be in akatsuki, he fills the requirements..

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I think the reason we all hate him is because everyone obsesses over him despite this.

I agree.

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I just hope his death is gruesome and painful.
lol too bad that he won't ever die...

Still, hes pretty pathetic relying on Orochimaru's Gay Seal, which by the way looks like the Sharingan eye.... talk about Kishi's originality sometimes...

We all know by now that Naruto has his own strength (in the form of huge chakra or strong chakra depending on interpretation) which allows him to withstand the intensity of the Kyuubi's red chakra.

What the hell does Sasuke have beside his weird eyes, which (as uber as the sometimes seem) do have weakness (finally admitted by Itachi - they can't reach their full potential without the user going haywire/maniacal/insane and killing his sibling to poke their homo eyes out).
He's got jack shit, and thats why he had to use Orochimaru's homo seal, in order to become gay, or arguably bi-sexual (depending on fangirl yaoi art).

After his little revenge stunt is over, he will be forced back to take Vegeta's role in dbz. He will have a few skirmishes with Naruto here and there, to try and appease his arrogant egotistical self, but will eventually always be overshadowed by Naruto's strength.
So, WHY oh WHY doesn't Kishi change Sasuke's gay attitude a bit and make him truly unique and not a Vegita-clone!?!?

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I don't know how's that everything he did isnt betraying.


Well, if I was working for an organization and I decided to quit for personal reasons without trying to harm the company or try to compete against them, I don't see how that's treason.

Treason is usually when you go against the organization, compete with them using your previous knowledge or stealing secrets and selling them to a competitor....but just quiting....treason? Them most employees in the world are traitors...I guess.

The guy was obviously from a Konoha linage, but all his clan was destroyed, and he doesn't have any attachments to the village anymore, why can't he just silently quit.

He was with another village but he's working as an independent with a small group of allies now.

The difference between Sasuke and the villains of the story is that he doesn't harm innocent people. He kills, but kills villains, I think those are called antiheroes.

It is pretty annoying that all the story of the manga has being focused in trying to "save" Sasuke. I guess that's because Naruto is a weak character to be the lead and he's usually being dragged by subplots, but I can't imagine a mission or saga of "Wanting to be a Hokage" it's not like he can do something to be a hokage except doing his job as a ninja, training and waiting for the actual hokage to die.

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We all know by now that Naruto has his own strength


Well... he is the son of the greatest hokage and has the kyuubi inside of him (limitless amount of chakra) we could say that he has great genetic and chakratic advantages that regular ninja would only dream.

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I just hope his death is gruesome and painful.
lol too bad that he won't ever die...

Still, hes pretty pathetic relying on Orochimaru's Gay Seal, which by the way looks like the Sharingan eye.... talk about Kishi's originality sometimes...

We all know by now that Naruto has his own strength (in the form of huge chakra or strong chakra depending on interpretation) which allows him to withstand the intensity of the Kyuubi's red chakra.

What the hell does Sasuke have beside his weird eyes, which (as uber as the sometimes seem) do have weakness (finally admitted by Itachi - they can't reach their full potential without the user going haywire/maniacal/insane and killing his sibling to poke their homo eyes out).
He's got jack shit, and thats why he had to use Orochimaru's homo seal, in order to become gay, or arguably bi-sexual (depending on fangirl yaoi art).

After his little revenge stunt is over, he will be forced back to take Vegeta's role in dbz. He will have a few skirmishes with Naruto here and there, to try and appease his arrogant egotistical self, but will eventually always be overshadowed by Naruto's strength.
So, WHY oh WHY doesn't Kishi change Sasuke's gay attitude a bit and make him truly unique and not a Vegita-clone!?!?


you know what..the uchiha are pretty stupid. instead of ripping out their siblings eyes and leaving them to die why not just surgically exchange both pairs of eyes. I mean its not like your gonna have any use for your own pair after you transplant your siblings eyes in.


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you know what..the uchiha are pretty stupid. instead of ripping out their siblings eyes and leaving them to die why not just surgically exchange both pairs of eyes. I mean its not like your gonna have any use for your own pair after you transplant your siblings eyes in.


It is true, in fact, if they have the medical technology to transplant the eyes, couldn't they just cure the blindness?

But if they NEED to kill they best friend to get the mangekyo sharingan as some kind of seek ritual, wouldn't killing their siblings to get the ultimate sharingan might be a necessity too.

Personally, I never understood how killing your best friend could develop your own eyes. That seriously doesn't make any sense. It's like thinking that if another person takes a medicine it will have the effect in you.


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you know what..the uchiha are pretty stupid. instead of ripping out their siblings eyes and leaving them to die why not just surgically exchange both pairs of eyes. I mean its not like your gonna have any use for your own pair after you transplant your siblings eyes in.

Well, thinking isn't really one of Kishi's strong points... this wouldn't be the first or last plot hole either... Remember the good old Black Hole Jutsu Kakashi used? out of frigin nowhere...

And anyway the Uchiha are all psychotic, arrogant bastards who fear all others who are stronger than them, so fat chance of anyone offering their eyes to their good 'ol bro, who will stab repeatedly at their back as soon as they are blind....


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Sasuke from the get go has annoyed me. He embodies all of the human properties that I hate with a passion, and yet gets all the attention. He's moody, he's self absorbed, egotistical jerk that thinks the way to power lies down the path of some deranged egomaniac that is two steps short of being a necrotic pedophile.

I have always in fact considered Sasuke the ultimate emo, and I HATE emos. I just wish that him and his brother just kill each other in some sort of glorious emo way and just end this freakin' arc already.

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Well, if I was working for an organization and I decided to quit for personal reasons without trying to harm the company or try to compete against them, I don't see how that's treason.

Treason is usually when you go against the organization, compete with them using your previous knowledge or stealing secrets and selling them to a competitor....but just quiting....treason? Them most employees in the world are traitors...I guess.


Yeah, what you mentioned is treason. but betrayal of trust is also treason. You got your point he maybe didnt betray Konoha in that way, of course he didnt know more konoha secrets than orochimaru but anyway. But he did betray his friends, they trusted him and thought he did too, but he didn't trust them in the end and leave, being false with your friends or people that trust in you is betrayal too, and it had nothing to do with organizations. Even if Sasuke had no attachment, it would seem that he was just using them during all that time, which IMHO is a betrayal of trust.
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The guy was obviously from a Konoha linage, but all his clan was destroyed, and he doesn't have any attachments to the village anymore, why can't he just silently quit.

Well I can't call silently leave, fighting with Naruto using the cursed seal and almost killing him. And about attachments, so if he didn't have any more attachment why did he stayed so long in there? If he was there just waiting for the chance to get stronger, then use that chance and finally go a kill Itachi while staying in a place that has no attachment with him, nice deceiving there because everyone trusted that he was part of Konoha. He just could leave when he became a genin and train by himself you know.

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It is pretty annoying that all the story of the manga has being focused in trying to "save" Sasuke. I guess that's because Naruto is a weak character to be the lead and he's usually being dragged by subplots, but I can't imagine a mission or saga of "Wanting to be a Hokage" it's not like he can do something to be a hokage except doing his job as a ninja, training and waiting for the actual hokage to die.

In this I agree, I don't like Naruto either, kishimoto made him very annoying. About the subplots, well they have to make the manga longer somehow but kishimoto could use other characters too.

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Ok from the very beginning of series I hated Naruto and liked Sasuke. Yes, I like Sasuke I'm in the minority. BUT no way in hell can you classify Sasuke as Emo. I find it that most people just misinterpret his character. If you want to know how I see him then his character is closest to Hannibal Lector from Hannibal Rising.

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Ok from the very beginning of series I hated Naruto and liked Sasuke. Yes, I like Sasuke I'm in the minority. BUT no way in hell can you classify Sasuke as Emo. I find it that most people just misinterpret his character. If you want to know how I see him then his character is closest to Hannibal Lector from Hannibal Rising.


I'm pretty sure Sasuke doesn't eat people.

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Actually Sasuke reminds me of Gutz from Berserk:

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Gutz "betrayed" his friends, the band of the Hawks; he has a traumatic past; he has only one objective, to kill a man; he has a seal (the brand); He uses a power that is no his (the armor); and he is clueless when female characters want something with him


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Actually Sasuke reminds me of Gutz from Berserk:

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Gutz "betrayed" his friends, the band of the Hawks; he has a traumatic past; he has only one objective, to kill a man; he has a seal (the brand); He uses a power that is no his (the armor); and he is clueless when female characters want something with him


I don't think neither Sasuke nor Gutts are clueless of that. Sasuke knows all the girls want him, he just doesn't give a crap because of how focused he is on killing his brother. Or he could just be gay.

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this is what i think i think people think that he is a whiny bitch sore eye who is weak and pouts when someone is stronger then him....i personally think sasuke is pretty cool he looks bad ass on the naruto shippuden thingy smile wink grin laugh

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one word: Ubersuke.

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A man joins the United States Marines. He is trained to be a strong soldier. He is taught how to kill efficiantly. After serving a few months, he finds an Al Queda opperative who is impossibly skilled in fighting, better than anyone he ever saw in the Marines. He leaves his fellow comrades to work under this Al Queda opperative.

That is a what Sasuke did to Konoha. Ninja are the military of that world. He was trained by the village. They invested time and money into making him a strong ninja. And when he found his advancement lacking, he left them to learn under one of Konoha's enemies.

And in case you haven't figured it out, if that Marine was ever captured alive, he would be executed for high treason. Chances are he would never be captured, but killed with prejudice for betraying the U.S. government and the Marines.

When Sasuke left, the order was immediately given to go and bring him back. Almost three years later, Sai is put onto Naruto's team for the express purpose of killing the enemy to Konoha, Sasuke. That is canon.

And that is a lot tamer than what the United States would have done to a favored soldier that left it for the enemy.

Go back to when Kakashi first tested Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura with the bells. Remember what Kakashi was trying to teach them. That turning your back on your comrades and working alone makes you worth crap. Sasuke did that. He rejected Kakashi, Sakura and Naruto. He went on his own for selfish reasons, taking Konoha secrets with him. He betrayed their trust, their friendship, and their unity as team seven.

Sasuke's betrayal aside, it's his one-track mind on killing Itachi and the uberfication that annoys me the most. People complain that Sakura killed Sasori when her only contributions was the antidote and being a human puppet. Sasori was defeated by his grandmother as without her, Sakura was dead meat while the opposite can not be said. Sasuke, however, killed Deidara with little difficulty, who was being helped by Tobi, when Naruto and Kakashi working together failed to do more than sever the guy's arm when they fought.

Frankly, I'd have a bit more respect for Sasuke if he was a completely different sort of ass. When team seven was formed, he stated two goals: rebuild his clan and kill someone (Itachi). With Sakura, Ino and other fan girls hanging on him, why the hell didn't he start with 'rebuilding the clan?' Knocking up one girl isn't going to repopulate the Uchiha clan, after all. laugh

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