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Chayto
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Been thinking on what's gonna happen over and over and I just can't see a "Fair" fight now...

Anyone thinking that Naruto will somehow prevent the previous Kage's intervention by saying something like: "Bit** please! Imma defeat the Madara-Obito-AlmostJuubi combo and become the best Hokage ever"??

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Oh men that would be simply awesome!! If the first time they (Naruto and Kurama) fuse only for 5min I wonder how much better he will become!

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I wonder how things are going to play out. Haven't they mentioned that those brought back by Edo Tensei have pretty much unlimited Chakra? The biggest handicap for the Third during his fight with Orochimaru was that he was old, and simply didn't have enough chakra to completely seal him. He also was going up against both the First AND Second while fighting Orochimaru. I don't see how he can be considered one of the "worst" kage level ninjas. I mean, the Kazekage was taken out by Orochimaru, so wouldn't that make him one of the worst?

In any event it seems that in general the Ninja who grew up during the relative peace of the era with hidden villages are not as powerful as those that grew up prior to that, during non-stop warfare, such as with Madara and Hashirama.

As for Sasuke, do you really think anyone is going to choose to go along with a bunch of nutjobs like Madara and Obito? They basically want to take over the entire world and turn it into one big dream, removing all free choice and becoming Gods, so that no one will suffer. That's ludicrous, and I would wager, impossible. It would just be a giant dream for them, and everyone else trapped in it.

What I think will happen now is some rather kick ass fighting involving some of the most powerful ninja zombies ever, followed by revelations of what the true plan of the Sage of the Six Paths was. What was he planning when he broke up the Jyuubi into 9 lesser tailed beasts? They mention that the Jyuubi is more like a force of nature. It has no real mind, and just seems to destroy. That is not the case with the 9 tailed beasts. They each have a name, and a personality, and the Sage most likely did not want them to become the weapons that they did, but more likely wanted them to achieve harmony with their hosts, much like Bee, Naruto, and a few others have been able to do.

And then, eventually, they become one. Was he trying to create a Jyuubi that DID have a mind?

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Sarutobi was fighting against edo tensei hokages that were basically brainwashed....aka they were much weaker than they actually were, other wise they'd be too strong for orochimaru to control at that time. And i was just talking about the hokages, of course that kazekage was pretty bad as well as a few other kages, but sarutobi's pretty bad too. Notice how this edo tensei sarutobi is also old? Meaning he isn't in his prime and will probably much weaker than orochimaru still. Of course he is plenty strong considering his environment though. It's kinda unfair to compare them since they are so far aprart.

Big dream? Honestly i thought the moon eye plan was brilliant. It makes perfect sense and would just work amazing in the real world. Their logic is completely just and everything makes legitmate sense, their reasons, their "way of approaching it" (yea i know its a genjutsu on a moon but still somewhat makes sense). Think about his plan as communism. Marxist communism where everyone is equal. That's how i saw it at least. And they never said that they would rule over the new world. They'd just be ruled by the genjutsu.

I like your theory on kurama and them. It makes sense and could probably happen in the end. But that calls for at least two more years of naruto, which im not sure that kishimoto still has in himself to do...(notice kubo trying to get out of bleach as much as he can?)

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I agree with what you said with the Moons Eye plan. The explanation. I had an idea! What if something weird happens and Kushina is revived and somehow gets stuck with the evil Kurama chakra and goes Zombie berserk and fights Naruto? It might seem sentimental at first but it would probably be one of those crazy clan fights. Uzumaki vs Uzumaki?

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kushina won't have kurama's other chakra because minato sealed that into himelf while sacrificing his soul to shinigami-sama. chances are, that's the gift he wants to give naruto. if so, i pray that minato doesn't die for real when he gives it to naruto. i have a bad feeling about it, because it would be a way too easy way for naruto to get the chakra. something bad has to happen.

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Wow, that was the biggest turn over in the shortest time ever. So basically after all this friendship chasing, Sasuke decides to become a good guy just by listening to some mere explanations from Hashirama. And now what, Karin is part of the Uzumaki clan? What is Kishi doing? Not very satisfied with the manga at this stage.

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Haha doesn't die for realconfused You should know by now you really can't die in this manga anymore ever since edo tensei....unless you're jiraya or someone who died in the middle of nowhere. It could be better but i think (reaaaally hope) that kishimoto has his reasons for all of this.

@xorisa yea i though it was weird that karin was uzumaki to but later found out that kabuto already said that a while ago.

sakurakou
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10:12 pm, Apr 13 2013
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who else thought about minato reaction when he find that his student obito is the masked man

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Oh wow. I actually didn't remmeber that. That'll be very interesting. I wonder what obito thinks about minato...he technically did save kakashi and rin so obito should be fine with minato. And he technically died before rin, so he can't blame him for rin's death either. Obito might have a change of heart and become like every other uchiha(except itachi) that has had their third change of heart. First is pure and good, then they turn to hatred, then right before they die, they apologize for everything and does something to make up for it all. It's kind of a trend really... Madara's still in "stage two" while sasuke recently turned to stage "three". It's only a matter of time before he dies too, maybe by naruto? Ehh who knows.

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The 3rd hokage is not weak.. if he was weak he wouldnt have been called teh God of Shinobi

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Quote from kekpew
The 3rd hokage is not weak.. if he was weak he wouldnt have been called teh God of Shinobi


In the context of the story line within Naruto he is weak. By the time Naruto started he was an old man and lost a lot of his chakra. He makes mention of it while fighting Orichimaru. That being said his weak is still pretty fricking strong.

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but obito is the one who attacked and released the fox during naruto's birth. so he's the one who killed minato and kushina.

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Oh wow. I actually didn't remmeber that. That'll be very interesting. I wonder what obito thinks about minato...he technically did save kakashi and rin so obito should be fine with minato. And he technically died before rin, so he can't blame him for rin's death either. Obito might have a change of ...

Obito didnt start going around doing what Madara wanted until after Rin's death remember. Minato was still alive and Obito did attack him with serious intent to kill.

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Okay he's weak right now. He might have been strong during his "prime" but as of now, since edo tenses brought him back as the old man he was when he fought orochimaru, we can assume he's still weaker than orochimaru from back then, aka weaker than a heck of a lot of people. He may have been called the god of shinobi before but now he's just an old man.

And yes. Obito did kill minato. But was it for vengeance? Or for madara's sake.

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Quote from rexytheking
Okay he's weak right now. He might have been strong during his "prime" but as of now, since edo tenses brought him back as the old man he was when he fought orochimaru, we can assume he's still weaker than orochimaru from back then, aka weaker than a heck of a lot of people. He may have been ...


He was on par with Orochimaru during that fight but the involvement of the First and Second tipped the scale. Orochimaru is not weak in the slightest. He went toe to toe with Tsunade and Jiraiya.

I don't think Minato's death was out of vengeance anymore than his other killings were, but more that Minato was simply an obstacle. I don't think Obito would have gone out of his way to kill Minato, but Minato was standing in his way..

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