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tactics
Post #343100 - Reply to (#342986) by Maharajah
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I'm the Meat King (though I'm a girl).


Then it would have been more appropriate to put:

"I am the Meat Queen"

Although I recon I could challenge you for that title there =P


Yeah, but the Meat Queen sounds really lame to my ears so I just left it at that. biggrin

P.S. : I really crave for some meat now.


I think The Meat Queen sounds alright to me.

Hey if you don't want the title, i'll take it laugh

You like eating the organs and stuff as well?

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I also like tangerines(we call them bergamotas here), pommegranate not so much(and I don't even know the name for pommegranates in portuguese)


Eating a 'gator sounds fun, kinda like going over one step in the food chain


Woah you're in portugal! Cool! I always carry around 3-4 tangerines in my purse.. I call them purse oranges... Pommegranates are tricky because it's hard to get them ripe, but when you do, it is so worth it. I hated them until because I had always had unripe ones. I tried them again because I'm taking mythology, and read the story of persephone... Oh, and that's exactly what I thought when I ate gator, they taste better when you catch them yourself, but you have to have a permit. Once I ate a rattlesnake thinking it would be cool. It was gross.


no no, I'm on the other portuguese speaking country, Brasil biggrin
I said I eat a lot of meat, not fish laugh

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Personally, I feel as if man was made to eat meat. That's not to say that when done right, being a vegetarian is unhealthy, just that it's harder to be healthy and a vegetarian. The only time I'm offended by it is when parents force their kids to be vegetarians becasue that will affect the rest of their lives. If they want to grow up and eat a burger, they don't have the necessary proteins to digest meat.
Anyway, even if I wanted to go meat-less, I probably couldn't since vegetarian diets rely so heavily on peanuts.

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I love meat. I couldn't survive without it. There's nothing better than the taste of a nice tender and juicy piece of meat in your mouth...... wait, that came out wrong.

@tofuqueen.
Just wondering, at what age did you give your sons the choice on wether or not they want to eat meat? And before this point, did you ever serve them meat.
I ask, because I have a friend who is a vegetarian since birth. At around 8 his parents gave him the same option of choosing to eat meat or not. He decided to try it at least once. Few hours later he was seriously sick. Had to go to the hospital to get his stomach pumped. Doctors said that because he was raised a vegetarian his body was unable to digest any meat. So the choice was made for him and not by him. Just wondering if your kids are in a similar situation, even if at the moment they have no desire to eat meat.

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i probably could do it but i love meat smile wink grin

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Vegetarianism is okay if people just don't like meat, but please don't do it because you feel sorry for the animals. If that's the case then promote the market that treat animals well by buying that instead. Also make rules that you will never let meat go to waste and make delicious meals out of it in order to pay your respects.

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Post #343173 - Reply to (#343171) by uNpreDicTed
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Vegetarianism is okay if people just don't like meat, but please don't do it because you feel sorry for the animals. If that's the case then promote the market that treat animals well by buying that instead. Also make rules that you will never let meat go to waste and make delicious meals out of it in order to pay your respects.

smile


Isn't that contradicting? The economy runs by supply and demand. If you want it, they'll continue to make it. If you don't, they'll make less. Every person plays a role, no matter how small it is.

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Post #343181 - Reply to (#343173) by drolemil
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Isn't that contradicting? The economy runs by supply and demand. If you want it, they'll continue to make it. If you don't, they'll make less. Every person plays a role, no matter how small it is.


Like you say supply and demand, when I purchase meat that has gotten a good life and was threated well I'm making sure that the market grows. If I chose to not purchase any meat that means neither a pig gets treated better nor treated badly, it just ceases to exist.

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7:37 pm, Dec 19 2009
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I stopped eating meat because I just didn't want to eat it anymore...

Erm, being a vegetarian can be quite fun, and really healthy if you do it right. I forgot to ask my doctor about taking iron supplements, so I'm now verryyy tired all the time lol. I'm also not really supposed to eat very much soy, so I have to find other ways of getting protein. (Which, surprisingly, is not all that difficult.)


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Post #343198 - Reply to (#343160) by IMustBeInsane
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Quote from IMustBeInsane
Personally, I feel as if man was made to eat meat. That's not to say that when done right, being a vegetarian is unhealthy, just that it's harder to be healthy and a vegetarian. The only time I'm offended by it is when parents force their kids to be vegetarians becasue that will affect the rest of their lives. If they want to grow up and eat a burger, they don't have the necessary proteins to digest meat.
Anyway, even if I wanted to go meat-less, I probably couldn't since vegetarian diets rely so heavily on peanuts.

Wow. What an incredible amount of misinformation in a single post.

It's really NOT harder to be healthy as a vegetarian, just eat a variety of foods and you're fine. (Vegans, who don't eat eggs or dairy, do have to be a little more careful but it's still not a big deal.)

I have never heard ANYthing about "not having the necessary proteins to digest meat" if you've grown up vegetarian. That really doesn't make sense at all. I would imagine that there could be a period of digestive adjustment, just like there is with any significant change in diet.

Vegetarian diets rely so heavily on peanuts? confused Really? Ours doesn't & never has. Peanut butter & jelly sandwiches sometimes, yeah, but probably no more than your average non-vegetarian.

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@tofyqueen.
Just wondering, at what age did you give your sons the choice on wether or not they want to eat meat? And before this point, did you ever serve them meat.
I ask, because I have a friend who is a vegetarian since birth. At around 8 his parents gave him the same option of choosing to eat meat or not. He decided to try it at least once. Few hours later he was seriously sick. Had to go to the hospital to get his stomach pumped. Doctors said that because he was raised a vegetarian his body was unable to digest any meat. So the choice was made for him and not by him. Just wondering if your kids are in a similar situation, even if at the moment they have no desire to eat meat.

It's an ongoing thing. From the time they could understand, I've told them why I choose not to eat meat and won't spend my money on meat, but if they choose to eat it, it's up to them. As I said before, most of our extended family is not vegetarian, so they know that I'm not going to disown them or anything if they do choose to eat meat. They're now 14 and are still grossed out at the idea of eating animals.

As for your friend, I suspect that if he'd introduced meat very gradually into his diet he wouldn't have had any major problems. Any food that's significantly different than what you've been eating will likely cause you problems if you eat quite a bit at once. Doctors are generally not very informed about nutrition in general and a LOT of them still have a bias against vegetarianism, so I think it's pretty likely they didn't really know what they were talking about.

I know it's a much shorter time period, but my foster son was with us from 7-18 months old, and when he moved in with his extended family he was not vegetarian & had no problems. (I did suggest they introduce meat gradually.)
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Isn't that contradicting? The economy runs by supply and demand. If you want it, they'll continue to make it. If you don't, they'll make less. Every person plays a role, no matter how small it is.

Like you say supply and demand, when I purchase meat that has gotten a good life and was threated well I'm making sure that the market grows. If I chose to not purchase any meat that means neither a pig gets treated better nor treated badly, it just ceases to exist.

You do realize that "ceases to exist" in this case means "is not purposely and specifically produced to later be slaughtered for food", right? roll eyes

Of course it's better for those who choose to eat meat to support those who treat their animals humanely before slaughtering them, but by reducing the total demand for meat, vegetarians do reduce the number of animals being bred & then killed.

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Post #343266 - Reply to (#343100) by tactics
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I'm the Meat King (though I'm a girl).


Then it would have been more appropriate to put:

"I am the Meat Queen"

Although I recon I could challenge you for that title there =P


Yeah, but the Meat Queen sounds really lame to my ears so I just left it at that. biggrin

P.S. : I really crave for some meat now.


I think The Meat Queen sounds alright to me.

Hey if you don't want the title, i'll take it laugh

You like eating the organs and stuff as well?


I'm not really into organs, but I do love chicken hearts. I don't know if it's a common dish in other countries, but here's pretty much nothing of a surprise. Oh and I never eat the fat that comes with the meat, I know some people do that but this thing just turns my insides out.

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Quote from Maharajah
I'm the Meat King (though I'm a girl).


Then it would have been more appropriate to put:

"I am the Meat Queen"

Although I recon I could challenge you for that title there =P


Yeah, but the Meat Queen sounds really lame to my ears so I just left it at that. biggrin

P.S. : I really crave for some meat now.


I think The Meat Queen sounds alright to me.

Hey if you don't want the title, i'll take it laugh

You like eating the organs and stuff as well?


I'm not really into organs, but I do love chicken hearts. I don't know if it's a common dish in other countries, but here's pretty much nothing of a surprise. Oh and I never eat the fat that comes with the meat, I know some people do that but this thing just turns my insides out.


Chicken hearts is part of the "Churrasco" so it is common around here. I'm not that much of a fan of the fat either, but it is kinda necessary in some of the slow roasting ribs to make the meat juicy(12h ribs are specially delicious).

I really recommend you to try out a churrascaria or "brazillian barbecue" once, I'm pretty sure they're getting more popular around the globe. I saw a bunch of them in NYC at least.

Just noting that despite being called "brazillian barbecue" it is NOT in fact a brazillian thing, Brasil has no uniform culture, and hence no uniform cuisine. Churrasco is a tradition from the "Pampas" and hence from my state, Rio Grande do Sul, and Argentina(albeit there are some differences)


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Chicken hearts is part of the "Churrasco" so it is common around here. I'm not that much of a fan of the fat either, but it is kinda necessary in some of the slow roasting ribs to make the meat juicy(12h ribs are specially delicious).

I really recommend you to try out a churrascaria or "brazillian barbecue" once, I'm pretty sure they're getting more popular around the globe. I saw a bunch of them in NYC at least.

Just noting that despite being called "brazillian barbecue" it is NOT in fact a brazillian thing, Brasil has no uniform culture, and hence no uniform cuisine. Churrasco is a tradition from the "Pampas" and hence from my state, Rio Grande do Sul, and Argentina(albeit there are some differences)


You just made me drool a pond. And it's 6 a.m. Oh yeah, I still have a slice of pizza left.


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Let's see I'm a vegetarian. I used to be an avid meat eater. In fact Sashimi was one of my favorite things, raw horse, raw cow and raw fish. Cows used to be the best though... cow tongue is heavenly haha, when I was in Japan that's all I wanted.

And not too long ago I became a vegetarian. I have my very typical textbook answers on why... like how dirty slaughterhouses can be, the bad quality of meat they pass through the market, cruel living conditions and of course the health reasons...

though if you asked me to become a vegetarian a few years ago with those reasons I wouldn't have given a piece of crap and continued on.

So I have no idea, it just felt like the way to go.

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I have nothing against vegetarians but I don't think I could ever give up meat. It tastes good.

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