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bstgirl08
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5:01 am, Mar 3 2013
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I've voted Yaoi. Oh! how i HATE it! I'm not going to sit here say it's my least fav. I seriously don't like it. I accidentally read one and almost threw up.

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Hentai.....

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I hate Yaoi.

By the way, I don't really mind having gay people as friends, but I personally find gay things repulsive. I always thought this still made me count as homophobic, but what do you guys think?

I'm confused sometimes how most people who says they hate Yaoi doesn't think themselves as homophobic. Just like it's fine to be gay, isn't it also OK to be homophobic? Not to say that everyone who hates Yaoi is homophobic, just, why is homophobic deemed so negative? Is it reverse peer pressure or something?

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Ironic yaoi is leading. I mean, as much hatred towards it is shown, it has just as many successful manga series as any of the other genres. Has anyone tried reading manga on mangago? There's a 80% chance than any random manga you pick, it's probably yaoi or shounen ai.
Actually, that may be one of the reasons hatred for BL is so strong. People who don't like yaoi very quickly become annoyed when yaoi manga and doujinshi pop up everywhere they look.

Another reason may be the hatred for BL fans... the stereotype is a squealing and drooling, obsessive, brainless, weeaboo fangirl, and nobody wants to encounter one of those. Whether most BL fans are actually like that doesn't really matter, the mere image of such a repulsive creature is enough to make some people hate whatever triggered that behavior.

As for me, even though I am opposed to the bottom five choices for moral reasons, I wouldn't say I "hate" them... I just think it'd be best for everyone if those kinds of manga weren't around. Anyway, I guess I will pick yaoi, because out of the bottom five, I find it the most annoying. I'm tired of seeing so much of it, and also I find the typical yaoi art style terrible (mainly the faces).

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Just like it's fine to be gay, isn't it also OK to be homophobic? Not to say that everyone who hates Yaoi is homophobic, just, why is homophobic deemed so negative?
This poll thread isn't really meant to be a discussion about the morality of homosexuality or homophobia (and also, such a controversial topic is likely to take off with a lot of replies), so in the future, please be careful not to ask questions which would start an off-topic discussion.

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hentai, I am a girl so...this only serve to annoy me
especially when it's random and has no function other than fan-service

when you are reading good story,but ended up *cough* have to read it in hiding
because it will be awkward went your parent see what you are reading XD



though why shounen ai is higher than yaoi is puzzling
I mean, yaoi is more...intense version of shounen ai, so if you dislike that,you should dislike yaoi more,right?

I have no problem with shounen/shoujo ai, they are mostly a "touch" of affection and nothing more. Not really into romance centered story plot, so I hardly have problem with this yaoi/yuri. rarely read one anyway.

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Well it's blatantly obvious.

You say you have a strong dislike of lesbian themes, but you love watching/reading about handsome young men humping each other.
If you were bi or lesbian, you wouldn't be so averse to yuri.
And (with the exception of tranny strippers) Cherelle Ashlee is definitely a ...


Actually, I've said that its my least favorite, which in actuality means that I do read Yuri.Quite a few actually, never have I once said that I strongly detest them.


Also, P.S: We get it, you hate yaoi and you've already came to the conclusion that only "heterosexual girls" read them. You don't have to start an argument just to justify your own opinion.





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Incorrect wording of the question + inappropriate options=Meaningless Poll

Then again, I have never suggested any poll, so I shouldn't criticize.

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Hate is a strong word. I have also tried and read all the demographic, and will probably will continue reading them all in the future because just one will not sustain my reading craving and I'm an extremely picky and selective reader.

I will vote it it has the Shota or Lolita option

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I strongly dislike yaoi manga ;-; I'm not against BL but I just want to see a good adventurous romance manga T-T Lately there're so many yaoi mangas branded as new mangas in Mangafox latest release! T^T

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though why shounen ai is higher than yaoi is puzzling
I mean, yaoi is more...intense version of shounen ai, so if you dislike that,you should dislike yaoi more,right?

It isn't above it. The indicators are above the text. It's kind of badly designed in that sense, as they aren't really graphs, just short stubs.

Whoever is responsible of the poll layout, should probably fix that or make some kind of separators for ease of reading.

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I strongly dislike yaoi manga ;-; I'm not against BL but I just want to see a good adventurous romance manga T-T Lately there're so many yaoi mangas branded as new mangas in Mangafox latest release! T^T


T^T I know it's annoying they should have a filter option for yaoi like this site does.

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I read hentai from time to time (like it least from the poll list, though) and I must totally agree - I can't stand ecchi. It's not for everyone...

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To be honest I'm not into the whole "blaming the demography for the crimes of specific manga" but to vote for once in the poll i went for Yaoi, because... you know... machismo and all that shit, but no hard feelings, perverts girls need their fixes of "odd" things too.

Vesey
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It took me minute to realize what the question was asking. At first I basically read it like which group of people do you hate the most, shoujo readers/fans, shounen readers/fans... I was like woah prejudice much.

But then I figured out it was more about demographic influence on content. Which genre has tropes you hate that seem to result from a (perhaps misguided) attempt to appeal to it core demographic. Ultimately I went with shoujo because it has the highest amount of cliches and worst of all it's a few send out a bad message to it's young impressionable demographic. That said there is still a lot of good shoujo out there.

I think I maybe should have went with hentai because I still read a fair amount of shoujo where as hentai I pretty much avoid because it's so dude oriented what with the wonky female anatomy and sometimes physics. Not that every hentai is guilty of this but its more common then (I think) it should be to the point I don't think its worth looking for the exceptions.


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Voting for yaoi is like beating a dead horse, but that's the only genre that I actually could not finish even one story. I was under the impression that there's a more or less even split between guys and girls on this site, so why is there so much more hate (more than the other top 3 combined)? I ex ...


Actually, that's a common misconception: while the target audience for BL is most definitely heterosexual and bisexual women, I doubt most straight or bi women read yaoi / shounen-ai: why should they when there's so much het romance with better plots / art / characterisation? Only a small potion of heterosexual and bisexual women like BL, all heterosexual men dislike it, and imo quite a few homosexual and bisexual men must have voted against it too, since BL is likely too flowery and female-oriented and romanticised for their tastes.

A lot of heterosexual and bisexual men like hentai; and even if they don't, they still dislike BL more, so they'll vote for that. Ditto for straight and bi women - though I think almost all the votes against hentai must have been cast by the girls, simply because a lot of hentai is obviously male-oriented and of the "average (or ugly) guy gets ravished by / gets to ravish a smoking hot F-cup girl" variety.

As for yuri... Female homosexuality simply doesn't seem to raise as much controversy as its male equivalent; though why, I can't really say. Probably because people seem to think of it as more innocent and "pure" and romantic and "stemming from true love and not the blind lust you find between two men."

As for the accusations of homophobia... Let's face it: most living creatures (humans not excluded) are predisposed to dislike/mistrust/be fearful of things that aren't like them. And since the majority of the world population - the Mangaupdates community obviously included - is heterosexual, homophobia is a given. As long as it's not physically acted upon and is merely inside people's heads / on forums / in the form of poll results, there's not much anyone can - or even should - do about it.

Which brings me to my previous point: this poll is pointless, since anyone with any sense can guess the result. But I suppose I can't really talk because I haven't come up with any good ideas for a poll either laugh

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