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Madman
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11:55 pm, Jan 11 2009
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I'm amazed that this topic has suddenly gotten so one sided!

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Guys will always have differing views from women in terms of Abortion because they are not the ones that will have to suffer through more what--9 months. Still I believe that although I will never be in a position to pronounce judgment on this topic women should not have abortions in most cases. It is not that they do not have the right to choose things that affect their body. But lets face it, the baby can not complain about what a woman chooses. You may not understand my point of view, but what is not to say that the baby wants to live. Choosing to abort a child is like denying a life the right to live just because it can not communicate.

No offense to girls who choose to abort. none

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Post #251553 - Reply to (#247534) by flapple
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oh and all of those anti-abortion groups put up pictures of aborted babies... those aborted babies are like that cause they abort it like a month before its due.


Heart beat begins at 5 weeks. By 2 months, the fetus is recognizably human (at least to me). So, you might be right about the pictures, but that doesn't mean much if you look at other pictures.

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Personally, I also don't think abstinance-only sex-ed works, but when I was in high school, abstinance was mentioned once during our week-long sex-ed. Literally. We certainly needed more stress on abstinance than we got.

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I'm pro therapeutic abortion and first trimester abortion. I had an abortion resolution when I did high school debate, and there are definitely pros and cons to both sides. One issue that isn't mentioned enough imo, is that anti-abortion laws are largely (unintentionally) classist in that, those with money are free to take a "vacation" to places where abortion is legal and get it done anyway, while the poor and desperate turn to backyard abortions which are highly dangerous to the mother. Obviously this doesn't justify legalizing abortion, but it shows that legal action may not be an effective solution.

Ultimately, I lean towards freedom of choice in this issue as I do most others. However, I think this is one of those topics where good, rational people can disagree. I'm relatively satisfied with the status quo; abortion is such a hot button topic that it's unlikely that many people will take it lightly, while remaining constitutionally legal.

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Wow, I voted in the poll, but never stated my opinion none

I believe it's not my right, nor any third or fourth party, to tell anyone else what to do with their body or how they should treat their body or what is their creation. It's also not fair, I think, to basically force people to give birth to a child they know they can't take care of. And then you simply have a poor child whose suffering, mostly because its parents can't take care of it, while certain "pro-lifer's" are sitting back cheering simply because its another "saved life." What type of life is that for a child, to be born into misery simply because it's a child?

And I don't think its right that everyone's shrieking "STOP ABORTION!" but nothing is being done to improve orphanage systems {or the school systems, mind you}, and there are so many blocks when it comes to adoption. There are probably hundreds of parent's out there, but because those couples don't fit certain standards, they are deemed unworthy and denied the right. Its so aggravating!!

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i voted for it shouldnt happen...

first of all have you ever watched junno?? its a very "serious" movie that deals with teenage pregnancy...and things like this...i say that even though the thing inside you is unwanted or anything it still has a life!!! and its also human just like you and me!!! <hate to be all christiany here but...> GOD HAS PLANS FOR IT!!! you better not mess with the almighty!! or youll pay big time...

or something like that...

but if it isnt human and all maybe you have to think twice...

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Post #258157 - Reply to (#258142) by otakuness
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Quote from otakuness
hate to be all christiany here but...

if you hate it too, then just don't do it.

Her choice, all the way.

The idea of being forced to have and keep an unwanted child disgusts me. You can't impose such personal rules of conduct on another, if they act wrongfully in your eyes then feel free to think less of them but don't impose your rules on them and their personal lives...

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I don't support abortion aside from the 'life is in danger' situation. That includes for me a abortion after a huge psychological trauma (e.g. rape) as well. Abortion itself is wrong in any way you look at it. There are plenty of solutions to give away a newborn child nowadays and abortion is simply chosen way too often as the easy way out. Because birth hurts and because adoption hurts even more.

But I welcome legal abortion over illegal surgery. Period. That has the simple reason that you don't help women who seem to have no other choice for whatever reason. You only draw them back in a corner, letting someone do it who's not working with clean tools and medical license. Abortion needs to be legally restricted but shouldn't be forbidden completely.

Lastly, the system around the 'victim' needs to work. I can tell you this from my personal experiences: It doesn't.

When I was 15, I became pregnant. My boyfriend turned away from me and my family only gave me one choice: "Abortion or move out."
I went to a counseling center for women and they told me I'm too young. Abortion. I went to doctor and she told me I'm too young. Abortion. I went to the child protective services and they told me I'm too young. Abortion. I went to the church and they told me that they can't help but when I abort the child, I will be excommunicated.

In the end I gave in because there was NOBODY reachable to help and my time was running out. Due to my struggling the legal time (12 weeks) had already past for one week but the doctor did a favor to my mother and noted the wrong week on the papers. I was shivering, I was crying when giving my consent and not a freaking person in the room cared that I could only nod while the tears were running. I woke up crying from the anesthesia and I never recovered from this experience. Later, I lost two other children during pregnancy and every time it was risky due to problems that are possibly leftovers from the abortion.

So no, I don't support it because my experience showed me that it's used as an easy and comfortable solution for everyone. It's fast, it's clean and it's forgettable for nearly everyone. Before talking about making it illegal or restricting the legal way more, better look how the system as a whole works at the moment which accepts it's way to much as justified solution instead of something that should be avoided as much as possible. It should be the very last way out.

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Post #258401 - Reply to (#258157) by havoccc
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Quote from havoccc
if you hate it too, then just don't do it.


i was just stating my point there dude cause maybe some people out there are not christians...i dont wanna offend anyone...i dont wanna ignite a war out there, ya know...

but whatever...heres to trying to not offend anybody...

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..CMON abortion is killin!!.. you YOURSELVES had given a chance to live...then why not give the poor little soul to enjoy his/her life??



my opinion..hope you come to think of it no

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While the fetus is still dependent on my body for its life, it's still my choice.

When it can live on its own (accepting nourishment from others, breathing with its own lungs, etc.), then it's killing.

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if you want sex, bare all the consequence.
If its force on you in any manner that make you feel uncomfortable
then you have the choice to keep it or not. eyes

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Post #258864 - Reply to (#251553) by IMustBeInsane
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Personally, I also don't think abstinance-only sex-ed works, but when I was in high school, abstinance was mentioned once during our week-long sex-ed. Literally. We certainly needed more stress on abstinance than we got.


More stress on birth control yes, not abstinence. I'm amazed you can consider that week as sex-ed.


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2:59 pm, Feb 17 2009
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I'm pro choice. Not saying i would have an abortion, tho i couldn't know for sure since the situation has never come up before.
but making abortion illegal would have horrible horrible consequences. alley abortions (like eg in the vatican state and other places where its banned -correct me if im wrong-) should never happen, and since abortions wont end by banning it, i dont think it should ever be illegal

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Id say yes but only if the woman was raped, if there is incest involved, or if the woman's life is in danger, otherwise have the baby and give it up for adoption of you dont want it that badly.

Though I do believe it is the woman's choice and not m own (im not gonna be the one dealing with the kid for at least 9 months)

I personally believe abortion is wrong unless in the circumstance mentioned above...I am not gonna force this opinion on my partner however, it is her body that is taking the trauma not mine

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