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calstine
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Shotacon and lolicon -- not the ones with just romance, no, but the ones with clearly portrayed, explicit sex involving anyone below 15 years of age; even if both partners are younger than 15. Especially if they try to flaunt it as something 'romantic' or 'right'.

But no-one can change my mind. (Then why the f did I post? Idk...just to vent, possibly. Most of the posts here seem to be like that; and anyway, I'd love to see what anyone can come up with to defend underage porn.)

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Unfortunately they can, which is one of the reasons I try to stay away from places with high concentrations of anime fan(boy)s.

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Post #566394 - Reply to (#566161) by calstine
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Shotacon and lolicon -- not the ones with just romance, no, but the ones with clearly portrayed, explicit sex involving anyone below 15 years of age; even if both partners are younger than 15. Especially if they try to flaunt it as something 'romantic' or 'right'.


I do have one title to recommend: Baby Leaf.

But it is not porn nor shotacon/lolicon though both MCs are under 15 at the beginning of the story. It's just a realistic manga that portrays a lot of people's younger days/relationships. Truth is, many teenagers become sexually active around that age, which is just a fact in society. This manga can also remind us of how we have become who we are today as an older and more mature person.

It is definitely not for everyone so I am not sure whether it will work for you. People who don't have similar experience probably do not understand it. And whether one gets it will also depend on his/her cultural background and value.

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Calamansi
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For Martial arts you could try Holy land (he is kind of an special case of what you describe, definitely, kind of a pussy at times but with a wild side when fighting), Aiki(he is anything but an idiot), Shamo.

Most Seinen Martial arts manga have a more interesting plot than the one you describe ...

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Seconded.
Also aside Holy Land and Aiki, try Gekiryuuchi.


Thanks for the suggestions, I've started Holy Land and so far it's great. And whaddya know, they use real techniques whose names I can remember! It's a nice break from all the gravity-defying and OP heroes that are in most of the fighting manga I read (maybe I should ease off of the fantasy). xD


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I didnt read all the 8 pages. I hate ecchi,gender bender,harem and lolicon in general. Even though I hate harem,I am reading Rosario to Vampire and Girls of the wild mainly because of supernatural elements in the first and drama in the second.
I prefer mature content including sex scenes (even hentai) as long as they are the part of the plot but not ecchi stuffs. To be frank I never found a single series where ecchi was not used for 'fan-service'. Still I am having some of ecchi series on my lists like Gantz and others mainly because of their plot.
I havent yet tried Gender Bender because I really dont know if the read will be worth enough. I am reading Zippy Ziggy which have small amount of gender bender but not enough to call it 'gender bender'. I remember reading a series in which a boy turns into girl after falling into hotspring(?) or something like that...He came to Japan to meet his fiance who is also an martial arts experts like him with his father(who transforms into panda).I tried it for 3-4 chapters but then gave up mainly because the plot was episodic.
Lets see what can change my mind.

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Maybe for gender bender, you could read 1/2 Prince (novel) . The other gender bender that you said you hated was called, Ranma 1/2. I can't help you with any of the other genres, but 1/2 Prince is really good, the manhua is not up to par with the novel though.

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I didnt read all the 8 pages. I hate ecchi,gender bender,harem and lolicon in general

yeah I know what you mean...

but I thought these are tolerable:

gender bender:
Usotsuki Lily hilarious comedy
Shouri no Akuma funny
Pretty Face the one that changed my mind completely

harem:
Ai Kora the first good harem manga I read
Denpa Kyoushi the characters are just too nice
The World God Only Knows pretty funny

ecchi:
Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko. really interesting
Jigokuren really strange, I mean really... you could skip this one
Tasogare Otome x Amnesia & Sankarea both have an interesting enough plot
Chobits & Chokotto Sister are really good


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Shoujo I've tried it variously but it's so disgusting and annoying
I can read only 3 ever and that was no.6,crush on you and my barbaric girlfriend.
I also hate hentai but that's never going to change because it's normal and I'm not that big on incest

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Shoujo I've tried it variously but it's so disgusting and annoying
I can read only 3 ever and that was no.6,crush on you and my barbaric girlfriend.
I also hate hentai but that's never going to change because it's normal and I'm not that big on incest


What do you mean by disgusting? Mary Sues, romance-centric plots, smut, main characters who can't make up their minds, drama? Trying to figure out which titles to avoid, cause I've found a few to be good in spite of those elements. xD I haven't read the shoujo you've tried so I can't really make recommendations based off of those, so I'll try to list some that I've found to be unique in the world of shoujo/ josei.

When it comes to comedy there's Gokusen and Kuragehime. The female leads in each couldn't be more different, but both stories have done a good job of combining a nice plot with humor.

Action/ adventure wise, there's Immortal Rain, Basara, and 7 Seeds. All have excellent character development, and I loved how the drawings in Immortal Rain improved over time.

And then there's KARAKARA Kemuri's works such as Replica and Donten ni Warau which have interesting plots and male leads.

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What do you mean by disgusting? Mary Sues, romance-centric plots, smut, main characters who can't make up their minds, drama? Trying to figure out which titles to avoid, cause I've found a few to be good in spite of those elements. xD I haven't read the shoujo you've tried so I can't really make r ...

you know those romantic ones with weak annoying female leads that cry a lot.
i dont really know the shoujos ive read because i dont bother to remember them but ive tried various and they were all about weak girls that fall in love with popular guys and its happy ever after.maybe if it had a strong females like some shounen. i hate all of those stereotype shoujo characters you mentioned.

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i dont really know the shoujos ive read because i dont bother to remember them but ive tried various and they were all about weak girls that fall in love with popular guys and its happy ever after.

yeah then you missed some of the better ones...

you can try these:
Akagami no Shirayukihime though this has princes and fairytale material...
Dengeki Daisy it has an actual plot
Hatenkou Yuugi hilarious
Last Game has male MC and is quite entertaining
Deep Love - Ayu no Monogatari & Deep Love - Reina no Unmei you dislike 'happy ever after' stories? enjoy
Mekakushi no Kuni could be something for you, but I'm not sure...


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yeah then you missed some of the better ones...

you can try these:
Akagami no Shirayukihime though this has princes and fairytale material...
Dengeki Daisy it has an actual plot
Hatenkou Yuugi hilarious
Last Game has male MC and is quite entertaining
Deep Love - Ayu no Monogatari & [m]Deep Love - [/m] ...

Thanks someone once recommended dengeki daisy to me but I picked a random chapter and stopped after there and I read last game and stopped after chapter one.I have a short attention Span.I'm not high on tragedy either they make me sad I prefer comedy.
All the mangas you recommended to me are romance and I'm not sure I'm ready for shoujo romance yet.ive barely even read any shoujo.what about you do you know any of my favourite genre BL

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sorry I don't read yaoi/yuri and don't even intend to change this^^

the only shoujo I read that is not in the romance genre would be Kieli though there's at least a romantic subplot...
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All the mangas you recommended to me are romance and I'm not sure I'm ready for shoujo romance yet.ive barely even read any shoujo
though romance is the strong point of shoujo's...

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Yaoi/Yuri and Hentai.
Sorry, but I'm not into porn of any kind and I'm not big into the extreme sex plots and gay sex T_T
Not that I have anything against gay people, just not big on the watching what goes on in the bedroom bits. It's the same for Hentai, as I'm not really into the nastiness. dead

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you know those romantic ones with weak annoying female leads that cry a lot.
i dont really know the shoujos ive read because i dont bother to remember them but ive tried various and they were all about weak girls that fall in love with popular guys and its happy ever after.maybe if it had a strong ...


Ohh, well all the stories I mentioned have strong female leads with the exception of Kuragehime (though she improves, and her awkwardness adds to the hilarity) and 7 Seeds' Natsu (she improves too, and the story follows many other strong characters). And I second the Kieli recommendation, it has a short-yet-touching plot. When it comes to comedy Yasuko to Kenji is also good, it even has a live-action series that is corny, but addictive. xD I'd say Gokusen is a good transition series for shounen to shoujo, because it focuses on the friendships the teacher builds with her students, and it has plenty of comedy and violence.

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