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First I didn't say Werewolves vs Vampires because I am biased, I did it because Alphabetically W comes before V and is twice as cooler.

You will notice that I wrote A, B, C, D, E and F as answers... why I did such a thing? because I am a dick? could be, but that wasn't the main reason.

First Lets List the Good and Bad of each races and see if you/or me learns something new

PS: If something (weakness/power is not listed in here, you can ping point me in the right direction (a web page or a book) and I will add said information in my post.

Note: said information MUST be a Myth or Legend that is part of a country history, literary work is BANNED since the point of view seems to always be one sided (even Fables are more legal than Literary work)

PS2: Lets be clear Twilight is BANNED!!! a book with so much nonsense should be burn front history, Vampires sparkle in the sunlight? Pfff then why they feared sunlight above anything else? oh yeah, because the Sparkle is annoying when they look in the mirror... No wait-

(Get my point right?)

Ok


Vampires

-They need blood to survive because it is the elixir of life, without blood they will die. The blood gives them energy, power and replenishes their body. It is the key to "immortality"

-They only come out at night because they fear sunlight. Sunlight doesn't kill them, but is well known that a vampire under the sunlight is weaker than a human and as thus can be easily killed.

(For the people that can't pay attention, Sunlight weakens vampires)

-They grow stronger as they get Older (or better say as they live longer?)

-They have an angular face and a waxy complexion--looking pale and drained. (in short THEY ARE NOT HOT)

-They have the ability of change their shape in other words change into animals, like rats, bats, cats, dogs and Her http://www.dcmedianet.com/showcontent/DC/programming/tha tssoraven/thatssoraven_i/lead.jpg

-They have the ability to control a certain amount of said animals (one of the things that gets better with time) and with time can even mind control weak willed humans

Note: Humans with a strong will can't never be controlled

-As they live longer they develop the ability to make Illusions

-They have no reflections, so they always look horrible, because they can't fix their hair or brush their teeth.

-Vampires die if they have been staked through the heart by wood, burned or by decapitation, also must be mentioned that they have a weakness towards silver.

(If you mess with their heart or their head they die...)

-Lets be clear, religious symbols do not harm vampires. (can't handle the truth? go send a letter to the pope)

-When vampires drink the blood of a person that person will turn into a vampire slave, and only can be freed if their master gives them of his own blood. (free doesn't mean you will be powerful)

-Vampires are not immortal, actually in folk tales vampires could die in less than a few weeks (Blood slows the process, but the end result was always the same), is said that vampires that where born out of hatred (When a person dies violently, committed suicide or was wrongly accused and killed, he or she may become a vampire) only had a few weeks before return to hell.

NOTE: To make things clear it was only in literary works that vampires could live forever, this is why I banned it... cause those are full of shit... anyway the truth of the matter is that Vampires where forced to drink blood daily or they would literally root away in a matter of days.

-Vampires have supernatural senses, that are well above the human senses, but is good to note that of all of them their hearing was the best, with concentration they could hear a heart beating.

-Vampires also have supernatural strength, enough to overpower any human in combat.

Werewolves

-In human form a werewolf is extremely vulnerable. They still have werewolf powers but they are greatly diminished in human form. A werewolf in human form would operate just like any other human being.

(IE they are a little above humans, but are fairly weak)

-The werewolves are normally two to three times the size of the average human man. They are physically very muscular and range from 7 to 9 feet tall.

-The fur color and texture range from shades of brown, gray, blond and even pure white.

-Werewolves are extremely powerful and have remarkable fighting / killing abilities with excellent agility and endurance. (in many legends a Werewolf could easily rip a person of all his members)

(Note: Is common knowledge that a werewolf is faster than the fastest Horse and could keep running for days before getting tired)

-I guess is clear, but a Werewolf that was aware of his condition could learn to control it and transform at will.

-Legends indicate that werewolves have special regenerative abilities, which let them heal very quickly from even the most severe wounds.

Note: This rapid healing ability also seems to have a slowing effect on the aging process of the werewolf. A full-grown werewolf will not age as fast as a normal human being. A werewolf can die from old age, but that could equal several human lifetimes.

-Contrary to popular belief, is very hard to be infected with the curse of a werewolf... why? because you have to SURVIVE the attack, and almost in a 100% of the time that wasn't the case.

-Legends state that the werewolf has enhanced senses. A werewolf can see very well in the dark. Like most animals werewolves have an advance sense of smell and the same goes for hearing. A werewolf has exceptional hearing abilities. Basically, it is near impossible to hide from a werewolf - if they want to find you then you are found. The advanced senses also are in effect when the werewolf is in human form, but in a minor scale.

-Contrary to popular belief, Silver doesn't kill a werewolf instantly, Werewolves seem to be Allergic to "Pure Silver", and like any severe Allergy, it can cause dead, but is hardly instant.

(IE even if you shot a clip of silver bullets, the odds say you will die before him)

-There are many legends were werewolves are not mindless killers. Many werewolves could be reasoned with and talked to just like any real person. Werewolves are believed in many cultures to hold magical secrets and other unknown information.

-Many werewolves travel like nomads, but others will be led by their natural wolf instincts to seek out and join a werewolf pack.

-A werewolf can only be killed in 3 ways, beheading, taking its heart out of his chest (otherwise it would regenerate) and Pure Silver.

-Contrary to popular belief, there are/were female Werewolves just that in more fewer numbers.



Now with all that said:

A) Vampires are much better than werewolves
B) Werewolves are superior to vampires
C) Both pale in comparison of the greatest and most dangerous beast... a man (LOL I wrote Black before man, but even if I am kind of black myself other members may be offended)
D) Thanks god neither exist
E) I like both, and I think the whole issue is overrated
F) Chaoswind is Biased!!! that is why Twilight is banned!!

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Stop giving shit poll choices.
You are less cryptic and mysterious
than a plumber.


I'd still choose vampires since they
can enjoy being vampires, unlike werewolves
that can't enjoy being wolves.

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i once went to the renaissance faire and there was this guy who had some kind of tooth dental problem and had vampire teeth. along with his vampire teeth, he had these full-eyeball contacts. when i asked, he said that vampires had eyes like that. i did not have the heart to say that werewolves were the ones with the completely black eyes embarrassed

edit: i guess i wasent clear. he said he was a vampire. sorry for the confusion

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-_-

Werewolves can't enjoy being werewolves? and you base that comment in what exactly?



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Since they are wolves.
They just are.
And occasionally kill stuff without
logic.

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Quote from Mamsmilk
Since they are wolves.
They just are.
And occasionally kill stuff without
logic.



huar huar huar, I am taking that you didn't read anything of what I said... lets enlighten you a little bit more.

Vampires are mytological creatures only known in Europe/China/Mongolia, on the other hand legends with werewolves are around the world (all but one continent) in many countries

and all of them share 2 points, Being a Werewolf can be a CURSE and a CHOICE, The Curse of being a werewolf can't be controlled easily and is tied to your blood line, the curse will never end as long as your blood line exist, with full moon is impossible to control the curse and the wild instincts that come with it, but any other day of the week can be controlled or limited (never suppressed)

However those that choose to be werewolves had complete and absolute control of what they did.

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Your vampire facts conflict. How can they get more poweful with age if they only survive a matter of weeks? How can drinking blood be the 'elixar of life' and secret to immortality if they aren't immortal.

Not a fan of Twilight before you flame me but you seem very clearly biased in favour of werewolves to me. You state mainly bad things about vampires, expressing several times that they are not hot in folklore (like that matters in a fight anyway) and point out how strong and difficult to kill a werewolf is. I'm not debating that all your points are backed up by certyain folklore but there are plenty more legends that state that vampires are very smooth and charming in order to enice prey. The internet isn't exactly renowned for it's overwhelming accuracy, certainly not in the myths and fables arena so you're guranteed to get contradictions anyway from other folklore sites. I just don't think you paint vampires very fairly in comparison to werewolves.

Much as I love werewolves personally I'm a vampire girl, I have an attraction to a being that can stay up all night, live long enough to see and do anything they want, has time to build a vast well of knowledge and most importantly, a discreet, effective way to kill humans. Ideally only ones who deserve it (think Dexter with fangs) but I'm not too fussy. Werewolves cause too much of a scene to get away as cleanly as a vampire imho.

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Idk I guess Werewolves
Then again vampires a pretty cool except now they are given too much attention than werewolves. So I'm a wolve fan cool

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Quote from CuthienSilmeriel
Your vampire facts conflict. How can they get more poweful with age if they only survive a matter of weeks? How can drinking blood be the 'elixar of life' and secret to immortality if they aren't immortal.


I said "immortal"

and they are Immortal as long as they keep drinking blood, however in many folks tales most vampires would die in a matter of weeks, because in the end you do know what vampires are... right?

If not

In essence Vampires are souls that escaped "hell" (is better if I say escaped "afterlife" or "dead") and returned to their bodies (at least the first vampires), I am not contradicting myself, I am saying that in most of the cases they die in a matter of weeks, but most doesn't mean all.

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Not a fan of Twilight before you flame me but you seem very clearly biased in favour of werewolves to me. You state mainly bad things about vampires, expressing several times that they are not hot in folklore (like that matters in a fight anyway) and point out how strong and difficult to kill a werewolf is. I'm not debating that all your points are backed up by certyain folklore but there are plenty more legends that state that vampires are very smooth and charming in order to enice prey. The internet isn't exactly renowned for it's overwhelming accuracy, certainly not in the myths and fables arena so you're guranteed to get contradictions anyway from other folklore sites. I just don't think you paint vampires very fairly in comparison to werewolves.

Much as I love werewolves personally I'm a vampire girl, I have an attraction to a being that can stay up all night, live long enough to see and do anything they want, has time to build a vast well of knowledge and most importantly, a discreet, effective way to kill humans. Ideally only ones who deserve it (think Dexter with fangs) but I'm not too fussy. Werewolves cause too much of a scene to get away as cleanly as a vampire imho.


hehe is the Truth, In folk tales, vampires are very far from werewolves, it was Literature and fictional work that made vampires famous, but in essence that is what they truly are (and you know what I mean)... don't like it, then you can now understand why with each new novel, vampires get an upgrade meanwhile werewolves pretty much stay the same.


I blame Stroker for spreading lies!!!

Also early Vampires (mainly the eastern/mongol ones) had their mouths full of Fangs and ate all but the bones of their victims.

and I agree, the internet is so full of shit, that is impossible to find an objective site -_-

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I agree with Cuthien. You, Chaoswind, are very biased. I love vampires far better. Also, when it comes to how much better one is over another, literature is part of this. Things don't stay the same. They evolve and change according to what people think of them.Think about it. The bible (Sorry if I offend anyone here) has gone over plenty of remakes. The greatest classical texts get edited, republished, retold and anything else you can think of. Exluding literary texts is like staying in the past, though I don't blame you for cutting out Twilight, which is especially unrealistic, even if it makes for a good read.

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Type-Moon style vampire yes. eyes

Any other I'd prefer werewolf, just because their drawbacks aren't too bad comparative to vampires IMO.

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Quote from Chaoswind
Quote from Mamsmilk
Since they are wolves.
They just are.
And occasionally kill stuff without
logic.



huar huar huar, I am taking that you didn't read anything of what I said... lets enlighten you a little bit more.

Vampires are mytological creatures only known in Europe/China/Mongolia, on the other hand legends with werewolves are around the world (all but one continent) in many countries

and all of them share 2 points, Being a Werewolf can be a CURSE and a CHOICE, The Curse of being a werewolf can't be controlled easily and is tied to your blood line, the curse will never end as long as your blood line exist, with full moon is impossible to control the curse and the wild instincts that come with it, but any other day of the week can be controlled or limited (never suppressed)

However those that choose to be werewolves had complete and absolute control of what they did.

Yeah and those that ride triceratopses can shoot laser from their eyes. You can't say what is the absolute truth of something that is
purely and utterly fictional.

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Quote from Chaoswind
First I didn't say Werewolves vs Vampires because I am biased, I did it because Alphabetically W comes before V and is twice as cooler.

I'm surprised I'm the first to mention this, but yeah, V is actually before W in the alphabet.


As for my vote, it goes to vampires, simply because I can think of more sexy vampire chicks than sexy werewolf chicks, and really thats all I care about.

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^ Finally someone notices the joke... or cares enough to comment about it v_v



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I agree with Cuthien. You, Chaoswind, are very biased. I love vampires far better. Also, when it comes to how much better one is over another, literature is part of this. Things don't stay the same. They evolve and change according to what people think of them.Think about it. The bible (Sorry if I offend anyone here) has gone over plenty of remakes. The greatest classical texts get edited, republished, retold and anything else you can think of. Exluding literary texts is like staying in the past, though I don't blame you for cutting out Twilight, which is especially unrealistic, even if it makes for a good read.


>_>

Just by looking at my Avatar and sig you can guess with one I prefer, that is why I said, if you can ping point me to something I will willingly add it...

Things don't stay the same... but in the case of the werewolves they remain almost unchanged (just that for some reason instead of being upgraded, they get downgraded to the lackeys of Vampires, and mindless creatures with is not right at all)

Werewolves where said to be the keepers of knowledge, and magic, and if we are going to talk about literature, One of the ancient Alchemy books was said to be written by a guy that lived 300 years alone in the mountains (you can guess what I am thinking)


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Since they are wolves.
They just are.
And occasionally kill stuff without
logic.



huar huar huar, I am taking that you didn't read anything of what I said... lets enlighten you a little bit more.

Vampires are mytological creatures only known in Europe/China/Mongolia, on the other hand legends with werewolves are around the world (all but one continent) in many countries

and all of them share 2 points, Being a Werewolf can be a CURSE and a CHOICE, The Curse of being a werewolf can't be controlled easily and is tied to your blood line, the curse will never end as long as your blood line exist, with full moon is impossible to control the curse and the wild instincts that come with it, but any other day of the week can be controlled or limited (never suppressed)

However those that choose to be werewolves had complete and absolute control of what they did.

Yeah and those that ride triceratopses can shoot laser from their eyes. You can't say what is the absolute truth of something that is
purely and utterly fictional.


Well, in my eyes old traditions have a much greater value than today's best seller (and tomorrows toilet paper), I guess that is just me

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Always thought vamps were cooler dont know why but i know new lit and stuff has put alot of random crap to what vamps are but hay vamps in the end to me are cooler. Being a Dhampir would be the coolest (the one with all powers no weakness) They would own and we all know it! Also i think Twilight is crap no offense to anyone. biggrin

You seem a little bias on Wolfs

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