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I Don't Care if Reira...SPOILER!!!

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I Don't Care if Reira...
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is a total wreck because of Ren's death. Knowing her, she's probably faking because Takumi is staying by her side. I know that's mean to say, but I just can't stand her!

And Takumi, I'm leaning towards more hate with him after hearing this spoiler. His wife is near having a baby, and he's with some other woman. Yes she needs someone by her side, but so does your wife. Hachi is in her latter weeks, so she doesn't need to be stressed out! That's why Nobu wins this battle! Nobu x Hachi supporters, I'm starting to convert!

Anyways...My theory is that Nana is going to run off because Hachi is going to take Takumi back after missing the birth of the baby when it will be Nobu who coached her. Takumi will then get Hachi pregnant again and do the same thing. That's when she probably decide to leave him.


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To tell you the truth I don't think little Ren is Hachi's.


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I really hate Reina as well. >:-(

And Little Ren's not Hachi's? Well, she is set on naming her child, Satsuki (is that right?) and that's a girl's name. So maybe little Ren is Nana and Ren's son? That would be great! Please let's not let Little Ren be Reina's son. That would be awful :(


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[spoiler]So maybe little Ren is Nana and Ren's son? That would be great! Please let's not let Little Ren be Reina's son. That would be awful :

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I thought he said Takumi was his dad and called Satsuki his sister, though he looks like a carbon copy of Shin, so I'm wondering how that fits in.


Does this thread really need spoiler blocks? Just put "spoilers" in the title.

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I really hate Reina as well. >:-(

And Little Ren's not Hachi's? Well, she is set on naming her child, Satsuki (is that right?) and that's a girl's name. So maybe little Ren is Nana and Ren's son? That would be great! Please let's not let Little Ren be Reina's son. That would be awful :(

I think it is pretty clear that Ren is not Reira's; he doesn't call her mommy. She even said she should have hated him! And Satsuki does call Ren "Big Brother." But...
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Ren does tell Nobu to teach the kid the guitar over the phone sometime before he died, and one of the previous chapters, Nobu is concerned about Ren continuing to practice while he's in England. So it Ren could be the first child of Hachi, but not sure who the father is. But Satsuki definitely looks like Takumi.


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I really hate Reina as well. >:-(

And Little Ren's not Hachi's? Well, she is set on naming her child, Satsuki (is that right?) and that's a girl's name. So maybe little Ren is Nana and Ren's son? That would be great! Please let's not let Little Ren be Reina's son. That would be awful :(

I think it is pretty clear that Ren is not Reira's; he doesn't call her mommy. She even said she should have hated him! And Satsuki does call Ren "Big Brother." But...
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Ren does tell Nobu to teach the kid the guitar over the phone sometime before he died, and one of the previous chapters, Nobu is concerned about Ren continuing to practice while he's in England. So it Ren could be the first child of Hachi, but not sure who the father is. But Satsuki definitely looks like Takumi.


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You know what I think little Ren might be the first born but at the same time they seem the same age and it's so confusing. But if little Ren is Nobu's then why is he living with Takumi instead of the other way around.
I wish Yazawa can finish this because I think I will get bored and more angry and frustrated if it continues even longer.


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I really hate Reina as well. >:-(

And Little Ren's not Hachi's? Well, she is set on naming her child, Satsuki (is that right?) and that's a girl's name. So maybe little Ren is Nana and Ren's son? That would be great! Please let's not let Little Ren be Reina's son. That would be awful :(

I think it is pretty clear that Ren is not Reira's; he doesn't call her mommy. She even said she should have hated him! And Satsuki does call Ren "Big Brother." But...
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Ren does tell Nobu to teach the kid the guitar over the phone sometime before he died, and one of the previous chapters, Nobu is concerned about Ren continuing to practice while he's in England. So it Ren could be the first child of Hachi, but not sure who the father is. But Satsuki definitely looks like Takumi.


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You know what I think little Ren might be the first born but at the same time they seem the same age and it's so confusing. But if little Ren is Nobu's then why is he living with Takumi instead of the other way around.
I wish Yazawa can finish this because I think I will get bored and more angry and frustrated if it continues even longer.


You remember Takumi said he would raise the kid no matter who the father is. I think keeping Ren is a way to still win over Nobu...well that's how the present Takumi would do things. However, future Takumi seems more humble so I don't know. And I believe it was little Ren that refused to go back to Japan for some reason.

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But you know, I am getting angrier as the story continues. Now Hachi is back in Nobu's arms cause she needs a man's comfort, and she's not getting it from her husband. I don't know if she'll cheat on Takumi or not. I do know Yuri is mad with jealousy!



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I Don't Care if Reira...
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is a total wreck because of Ren's death. Knowing her, she's probably faking because Takumi is staying by her side. I know that's mean to say, but I just can't stand her!

And Takumi, I'm leaning towards more hate with him after hearing this spoiler. His wife is near having a baby, and he's with some other woman. Yes she needs someone by her side, but so does your wife. Hachi is in her latter weeks, so she doesn't need to be stressed out! That's why Nobu wins this battle! Nobu x Hachi supporters, I'm starting to convert!

Anyways...My theory is that Nana is going to run off because Hachi is going to take Takumi back after missing the birth of the baby when it will be Nobu who coached her. Takumi will then get Hachi pregnant again and do the same thing. That's when she probably decide to leave him.




i think u r sooo wrong... hachi never left takumi.. takumi left bcz he still thinks he has a chance to bring the band back together.. or w/e the reason was for work...
idunno the reason why nana left.. idunno about the "birth of the baby eaither".. but the last thing u said eerrmm... no.


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I Don't Care if Reira...
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is a total wreck because of Ren's death. Knowing her, she's probably faking because Takumi is staying by her side. I know that's mean to say, but I just can't stand her!

And Takumi, I'm leaning towards more hate with him after hearing this spoiler. His wife is near having a baby, and he's with some other woman. Yes she needs someone by her side, but so does your wife. Hachi is in her latter weeks, so she doesn't need to be stressed out! That's why Nobu wins this battle! Nobu x Hachi supporters, I'm starting to convert!

Anyways...My theory is that Nana is going to run off because Hachi is going to take Takumi back after missing the birth of the baby when it will be Nobu who coached her. Takumi will then get Hachi pregnant again and do the same thing. That's when she probably decide to leave him.




i think u r sooo wrong... hachi never left takumi.. takumi left bcz he still thinks he has a chance to bring the band back together.. or w/e the reason was for work...
idunno the reason why nana left.. idunno about the "birth of the baby eaither".. but the last thing u said eerrmm... no.


NO! NO! NO! I didn't mean she left him like that...I'm sorry it was confusing and what I said was my own theory. I know they aren't split up like that. But during one of the flash fowards, Takumi specifically said his wife was not going to come back to him so easily when Naoki suggested finding Nana in order for Hachi to live with him again. He says it more to it than just that. Go back and read I think it's in Chap 73 or 74. But that is the basis for what I did mean.

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i got a different feeling when he said that,... and mmhh no i dont think i would read those chapters, never again...
i still read the updates, but going back and read.. that... never.

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I know I kinda feel the same way about going back to read...but I had to go back one time because of what someone else said. I hope it's not like what I said, but I know it's probably similar because we ARE talking about Takumi. And Hachi sometimes acts like she's one of those desperate women who stands by their man even thought he defiled their vows and at the same time, one who finally gets fed up after years of putting up with it. At any rate, I think some how Takumi went too far.

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I think that little Ren is Takumi's and Reira's child, they did sleep together didn't they? I don't see any other reasons why he would be attached to her otherwise and leave his mother like that.

And Reira is effin' nuts, that's why she acts like that. She probably doesn't even realize that it's her son. The reason why she might have said that she should hate him is probably because of his name and it reminds her of the tragedy? Her guilty conscience? I don't know. Whatever, one thing I know is she is a screwball.

Otherwise, little Ren could be Reira and Ren's child, which I don't remember them being together like that. Or Nana and Ren's child, but what the hell is he doing with Takumi and why is he so attached to Reira?

I'm really starting to get irritated with this series.

And I don't see the point of putting spoiler tags on mere theories. mad

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I think that little Ren is Takumi's and Reira's child, they did sleep together didn't they? I don't see any other reasons why he would be attached to her otherwise and leave his mother like that.

And Reira is effin' nuts, that's why she acts like that. She probably doesn't even realize that it's her son. The reason why she might have said that she should hate him is probably because of his name and it reminds her of the tragedy? Her guilty conscience? I don't know. Whatever, one thing I know is she is a screwball.

Otherwise, little Ren could be Reira and Ren's child, which I don't remember them being together like that. Or Nana and Ren's child, but what the hell is he doing with Takumi and why is he so attached to Reira?

I'm really starting to get irritated with this series.

And I don't see the point of putting spoiler tags on mere theories. mad


The spoiler tag was there because it was really a spoiler. Nana has not been updated yet, and everyone does not know how read Japanese or Chinese. I simply said the spoiler and then speculated.


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The spoiler tag was there because it was really a spoiler. Nana has not been updated yet, and everyone does not know how read Japanese or Chinese. I simply said the spoiler and then speculated.

Oh no! don't misunderstand, I meant that comment for my own post...

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The spoiler tag was there because it was really a spoiler. Nana has not been updated yet, and everyone does not know how read Japanese or Chinese. I simply said the spoiler and then speculated.

Oh no! don't misunderstand, I meant that comment for my own post...


Oh sorry! My Bad! But this story is so twisted, you just may be right!

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