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wotonito
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4:51 am, Feb 9 2012
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I'm basically a LaVeyan Satanist. I don't necessarily call myself (LaVeyan) Satanist, and LaVeyan Satanism isn't really a Religion, it's more of a Philosophy... But I believe in 99% of the teachings of LaVeyan Satanism, so I guess I am one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan

If you don't want to read it it basically goes like this...

Supposing all Gods humans believe in are Gods, then anything a human believes to be a God becomes a God, thus if the human believes itself to be a God it becomes one, so if I believe I am a God I am one. Also, Satan is not seen by LaVeyan Satanists (I'll just use Satanist for short, but I'm referring to the LaVeyan ones) as a, well, "deity", "Satan" is basically an alternative name for your desires. Your desires all lead to pleasure and reward, which is why "we" "worship" "Satan" if you must say. It places much emphasis on NOT bothering other people that do not deserve to be bothered. Unlike other religions where they, well, focus on bothering you into converting to be like them, Satanism is more about having others not bother you and being more like yourself (as long as it does not hurt anyone that does not want to be hurt)
"Its teachings are based on individualism, self-control and "eye for an eye" morality"
Oh and I put the "quotations" around the Worship part above because Satanists dun worship nuttin.

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Post #522137 - Reply to (#521998) by book_lover
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I've posted here before, and I've never really believed in God, but my recent exposure to [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/[url] has forced me to certain conclusions that I was ambivalent about before. In short, looking at the history and development of religion in general and Christianity in particular (for example, how nearly everything in the story of Jesus came first from a variety of earlier religions) makes it impossible for me to see religion as anything more than mankind's way of coping with the vast unknown. I understand the impulse to seek certainty and meaning in the universe, but though one cannot prove or disprove the existence of a general God (particular gods/dogmas are a different matter), when I look at the facts I see little room for a God of any kind.

PS. I am happy to engage in, and in fact would appreciate, discussion of these ideas.

I tend to feel much the same way. Certainly studying even a little bit of history and seeing the way in which religious myths and concepts evolve from one society to the next makes it very hard to credit any religion with a valid claim to authoritative truth.

Sagaris
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Sagarism is open to any and all competents.
With our delicious competency,
we will smote incompetence in all its forms
and thus cleanse the great mechanism.
The relentless pursuit of efficiency will see its fruit.
Will wipe from it the dirt of inability,
and with masterfully baited breath,
anticipate the limit of growth.

Mara618
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I am a Christian, more specifically I belong to an Episcopal church. Basically, it is the branch of the Anglican church in the United States. Why? I have a few reasons. Main one being that the church has a policy of "This is God's table, not mine. Everyone is welcome." No matter what your faith or sexual sexual orientation may be or what sins you may have committed, you will not be turned away. It's comforting to know that I won't be damned if I mess up. I have a home away from home, and that support has helped me through horrible times. I know that religion is a touchy subject. I also know that religion can cause wars. But at the end of the day, I'm glad I will always have something to believe in.

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voiceintheblue
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I'm born and raised a Roman Catholic. Still practicing, too. When I was really young, I thought I'd leave the Church when I grew up. All the rules were tiring for a 10-year old: waking up to go to Church (an hour was a long time to sit for a kid), going to Confession (where the lines are sooo long), learning about the faith (went to a Catholic school). And don't get me started on the Christmas and Easter Masses. They take FOREVER!

But due to life experiences, I came to love my faith. So what if people constantly bash on us and assume we're messed-up and think all our priests are pedophiles (which is NOT true, by the way)? I'm proud to be a practicing, believing Roman Catholic, and I'll remain one til the day I die.

atem4yami
Post #522299 - Reply to (#522007) by cano435
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Proud member of the Church Jesus created, RC for life.

may i ask what rc stands for?

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Post #522302 - Reply to (#522299) by atem4yami
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Proud member of the Church Jesus created, RC for life.

may i ask what rc stands for?


Guessing it's Roman Catholic

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wotonito
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Proud member of the Church Jesus created, RC for life.

may i ask what rc stands for?


Guessing it's Roman Catholic


Hmm... Pretty positive Jesus didn't create any churches, correct me if I'm wrong though.

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Proud member of the Church Jesus created, RC for life.

may i ask what rc stands for?

Radio Controlled.
or
Resistor-Capacitor.

book_lover
Post #522591 - Reply to (#522006) by Klapzi
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The thing is, in the end you need to admit one of the two:
- Kardec is the by FAR the biggest visionary in history
- Kardecism is right

I have never met or heard of someone who has actually ended "The Spirit's Book" and voted on the first option.

I suggest that if you want to debate you send Questions and I will Answer, that is how spiritist debates go.


Hmm, never heard of Spiritism before, but I'll give it a go, although I think you're far too overconfident to say that one must admit that Kardecism is right. I'll go do a little research and then send you my questions.

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The thing is, in the end you need to admit one of the two:
- Kardec is the by FAR the biggest visionary in history
- Kardecism is right

I have never met or heard of someone who has actually ended "The Spirit's Book" and voted on the first option.

I suggest that if you want to debate you send Questions and I will Answer, that is how spiritist debates go.


Kardec is a little tiny evolution in cristian religion, religion was far more complex, more practical with much more acknowledge accumulated, them the mainstream religion. Even englobed most of our actual science. I read he's book, spiritism/kardecism is pretty common in my country, no big deal, just some cristianism with the reincarnation system and astral realm implemented. Since cristianism is religion based in simplifying the complex things of universe so people at that time could understand. Therefore, kardecism is a evolution of this. What is too complex is "God", them simplify somethings, but with out going out of the same premise. I can find more religion on DaVinci vitruvian man, than in kardecism. But I think it's better them following the bible. bigrazz

And "send Questions and I will Answer" is like how EVERY debates go bro! \o/ laugh

I am Taoist, ocultist and skeptic. Since Ocultism and Skepticism arent religion, I stay with taoism, which I have been since 16 y/o. Since ocultism and skepticsm step on taoism anyway... I go with it... I like the simplistic way the Chineses dealt with philosophy. Its just "that is the Tao, tao is divine, and everything is Tao. That is it, enjoy." laugh

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Post #522671 - Reply to (#522594) by Hundo
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Kardec is a little tiny evolution in cristian religion, religion was far more complex, more practical with much more acknowledge accumulated, them the mainstream religion. Even englobed most of our actual science. I read he's book, spiritism/kardecism is pretty common in my country, no big deal, just some cristianism with the reincarnation system and astral realm implemented. Since cristianism is religion based in simplifying the complex things of universe so people at that time could understand. Therefore, kardecism is a evolution of this. What is too complex is "God", them simplify somethings, but with out going out of the same premise. I can find more religion on DaVinci vitruvian man, than in kardecism. But I think it's better them following the bible. bigrazz


I can't reeeally understand you but:
You can probably find more "religion", in the common meaning of the word, in any religion. That is why most people don't call Spiritism a religion.

just some cristianism with the reincarnation system and astral realm implemented.
Youw show how shallow is your knowledge, both on cristianism and spiritism.
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And "send Questions and I will Answer" is like how EVERY debates go bro! \o/ laugh

It surely isn't.

Edit: Which means you haven't read the books or can't understand them, basically the same thing.

wotonito
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Why are you guys arguing over whose religion is right?... This topic is about what religion you belong to now if your religion is the "right" religion. You guys aren't making religious people look any less worse than they already look. Be quiet and get to posting your religion, and maybe a brief outline of the CORE beliefs. For example, some Christians believe that females with abusive husbands should remain submissive, well, you wouldn't put that, since it's not THE core part of the religion. But if it's "we believe people should do x or not do y" well, as long as that's the absolute core of the religion... Post it.

PS... Be sure you even know what your religion is about, there are a lot of self-proclaimed "Christians" (CINO - Christian In Name Only) who don't even know what kind of Christian they are, haven't read every last piece of every bible they can, or wear upside up crosses without Jesus on it. I guess they would be called a part of, aside from CINO, maybe "Religious Fanwagon"?

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Somewhere between Atheist and Agnostic I guess, since I can neither confirm nor deny if a deity of some sort exist or not. I tend to classify a 'religion' is something that you have belief without any kind of proof or clear understanding.

I'm a mix bag of evolutionary biology, economics and physics believer. I admit I do have a certain degree of 'blind' faith in those fields because I probably won't understand them all without a few Ph.D in each of those fields. Evolutionary biology explains all life foundation, economics explains all life interactions and physics explains the universe (or universes).

The only thing that really left out is pure Art/Creation/Imagination/Idea. Not the kind of creation that has a purpose (song for peace, statue for sale, portraits, car designs) or a new discovery (new chemical compound, new jet engine design, mathematics formula) but rather the random and odd dreams that come to life with a single thought. It's the stuff that you usually find in a sketchbook or a brainstorming session. The creation of the airplane has a purpose so it's not what I'm talking about. The idea of "I want to fly" and "I want to create something that will let me fly", those are the things I have no idea what could explain such odd/brilliant/insane/stupid things.

This is the thing that makes human unique. There are several creatures that can learn, mimic, use or even create items to get what they want. Human is unique because sometimes we think of something completely irrelevant, out of the box and insanely stupid (at the time anyways). Most of them are wrong or just never get to see the life outside of someone's head. However, every once in a while, someone, somehow, got it out to the world.

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RIP131
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Although I've been baptized, I'm atheist and I hate the religion in all forms, the only thing I can say that I believe is the human progress.

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