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Superfreak
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5:21 pm, Mar 27 2014
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Went from being Muslim to agnostic.
I guess what made me lose my faith was when I actually read up on it. For example it is said in heaven men will have at least two wives plus nymphs (hoors in arabic) to marry. Some may even have 70 wives and women will be okay with this because she will be the queen of her husbands nymphs. Plus many other things that I won't get into.....
Anyways not insulting any Muslims its just something that I don't agree with anymore. I still believe that if religion makes you do good things then it should be respected.

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residentgrigo
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6:18 pm, Mar 27 2014
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I am a lifelong Atheist for the win but i who cares. I am redeading the Bible right now (it is world literature) and holy shit its crazy dark ! I just wish it was more readable. Most of it is just a hard to follow chronic of Judaism. Then some Jesus and a trailer of the end of days to cap it all off. 6/10 on a good day. laugh By the way Osumus manga about Buddha is pure gold. 10/10

Scyfon
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Quote from Superfreak
I guess what made me lose my faith was when I actually read up on it. For example it is said in heaven men will have at least two wives plus nymphs (hoors in arabic) to marry. Some may even have 70 wives and women will be okay with this because she will be the queen of her husbands nymphs.

This is a misinterpretation and misinformation. Nowhere in the Qur'an does it give a numerical value to the amount of wives given to the male residents of Paradise (not even to the "martyrs", contrary to popular media propaganda), and nor does it mention anything about their spouses being the "queen" of his nymphs.

It is, however, stated several times that equal rewards will be given to both genders (Yes, gender equality in Islam is a thing).

Whatever/wherever you're getting your information from, I suggest you redo your research.


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Superfreak
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Okay like I said I'm not attacking any Muslims. I'm just stating my opinion, the Quran does talk about hoors.
And I believe it is in the hadiths that mention 70 hoors for men. I have asked imams and they have confirmed it. Anyways I don't desire to do anymore research because I don't believe in it.

We are both entitled to our opinion you believe it is a misinterpretation and I don't believe so.
End of discussion I don't want to start a religious debate.

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I was raised to evangelical lutheran (One branch of Christianity.) and i believed to it, but lost believe when i was about 17-18 years old.
And after that i didn't know for a while was i agnostic or atheist (Didn't know and didn't really care the true meanings of the words than.), but now i know i'm full atheist.

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Anyways I don't desire to do anymore research because I don't believe in it.

...End of discussion I don't want to start a religious debate.

If I walked up to Neil Degrasse Tyson, admitting that I have very little understanding of the cosmos and then telling him in a room full of other scientists that the core of the Sun is made of ice, and pass it off as fact, what do you think would happen?
But it's okay, I'll just tell them that I didn't want to start a debate.

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Stupid example. I am going off what scholars who have studied Islam to a great debt. If you want to argue take it up with scholars and go study the hadiths.

Abu ‘Umama (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Messenger (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) said: "Allah will not admit anyone in the Paradise but Allah, the Mighty and glorious will marry him with 72 wives, two will be from virgin (houris) with big eyes and 70 will be his inheritance from the people of the Hell-Fire*." Every one of them will have a pleasant vagina and he (the man) will have sexual organ that does not bend down during sexual intercourse (perpetual erection)." [Ibn Majah, volume 5, number 4337].

End of discussion. I don't know what you are trying to achieve. I'm not trying to change people's mind just stating my beliefs.

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Sogno
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i'm a Christian, have been most of my life ^^ and i love anime and manga so i don't think they are bad things in of themselves ^^

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Starlow
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I'm agnostic although I come from a catholic family. Sure I've been christened and all that but my parents never really forced their religion onto me. And I'm happy things ended up as they are. It's allowed me to shape my own beliefs and philosophy.

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MirayAllen
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I don't practice any so my religion would be--and is--none. However, at my best, I consider myself a christened skeptic.

I tend to separate the skeptic from the agnostic since the latter often assumes a certain "unsure but contented" stance that, personally, I cannot relate to. I have a profound interest in the Christian tradition particularly and I always enjoy an open discussion on the subject of religion/belief as a whole. My enthusiasm in what regards Christianity has also took me to read the Bible, which I surprisingly enjoyed more than I was expecting to, at least as far as the Old Testament goes (it's hardly a piece of high literature but it can be appreciated still without one losing their wits over it).

That being said, I don't believe in organized religion, which (in its very name) stands as far away from faith as possible. Thus, within the skeptic's range (if such a one exists) I'm afraid I lean closer to atheism, but that's still better than not caring I guess.

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I am a Christian and so are my parents.

Even though I never disbelieved Christianity, I don't think I really started focusing on and understanding my faith (i.e reading the Bible regularly & praying & actually applying things to life) until I was about 15.

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