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arti
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well Mangatraders.com labeled Ubell Blatt Harem in their info so it got me wondering?..
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is it harem? or not?
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well so far all i know is that all Koinzells followers/partners is well all females..and yes some of them are willing to sacrifice their life for him.
but i think its a sense of loyalty/pity that they are willing to..i don't think its enough to be called a harem..yes one of them had s** with him and loved it/maybe the reason she's following him/ but its not a romantic thing xP. so in conclusion i wouldn't call it harem but rather a drama xP...
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piratealex
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5:11 am, May 2 2009
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no. how many women do we see fawning over whatshisname? like one maybe. i dunno maybe two. i wanna say none. not harem
desire to protect may turn it into a harem but at this point, there is none

arti
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12:29 pm, May 4 2009
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lol the poll got 26 votes but only 2 posts xP
people discuss it please xP..
@pirate yeah thats what i am saying but some people disagree :/

zerowellrain
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First is no but there is some harem atmosphere in the manga its safe to say there are at least to women who like koinzell.



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Well, of course, it is. And so is, obviously, Berserk. Gutts has a harem of a witch-tsundere, a zealot-turned-witch-yandere, a catatonic tsundere, a tsundere-fairy, a tsundere-trap-fairy, a shota-trap and a gay bishounen sex slave. Of course, that doesn't count the yandere demon overlord, Griffith, and the sexy seductress Slann who both want a certain piece of Gutts not to mention the myriad of damsels in distress.
Despite it's sexual content, which is the most important aspect of this epic tale, Its lack of moe-diversity makes Berserk a subpar story, though, and we can only hope that the inspiration Miura will get from his eroge experience will enable Berserk to finally get some depth.

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ImBZppl
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eh it kinda does but that's not the main focus of the story at all its super minor so its negligible

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Quote from Mindflayer
Well, of course, it is. And so is, obviously, Berserk. Gutts has a harem of a witch-tsundere, a zealot-turned-witch-yandere, a catatonic tsundere, a tsundere-fairy, a tsundere-trap-fairy, a shota-trap and a gay bishounen sex slave. Of course, that doesn't count the yandere demon overlord, Griffith, and the sexy seductress Slann who both want a certain piece of Gutts not to mentaion the myriad of damsels in distress.
Despite it's sexual content, which is the most important aspect of this epic tale, Its lack of moe-diversity makes Berserk a subpar story, though, and we can only hope that the inspiration Miura will get from his eroge experience will enable Berserk to finally get some depth.

What the hell?

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Quote from Mindflayer
Well, of course, it is. And so is, obviously, Berserk. Gutts has a harem of a witch-tsundere, a zealot-turned-witch-yandere, a catatonic tsundere, a tsundere-fairy, a tsundere-trap-fairy, a shota-trap and a gay bishounen sex slave. Of course, that doesn't count the yandere demon overlord, Griffith, and the sexy seductress Slann who both want a certain piece of Gutts not to mention the myriad of damsels in distress.
Despite it's sexual content, which is the most important aspect of this epic tale, Its lack of moe-diversity makes Berserk a subpar story, though, and we can only hope that the inspiration Miura will get from his eroge experience will enable Berserk to finally get some depth.


ehh.. ha?

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eh it kinda does but that's not the main focus of the story at all its super minor so its negligible


yup most harem manga focus on some how the female characters develop/gain interest on male protagonist or you can say the story goes like that while there is only a minor details like this in ubel batt

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arti
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@MindFlayer -huh?..are you drunk or something ? xP..

@imB & zero - so your basically saying its harem but has no romantic moment/element?...

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Someone went off topic without relating it? People [kids] really should think before typing/posting.

Harem by orignial definition was a place where women lived and men were forbidden to enter. Modern definition means a group of women who follow one man. Now the problem lies if we are to use the modern version of the definition or the anime 'genre' version. In anime/manga harem, there are usually 3 or more females who are (usually) trying to get the attention of the one single guy in the circle. That part is the obvious. What isn't obvious are three things - 1. all the girls (or a portion of them) are considered part of the main characters and 2. every girl is given strong development of personalities (likes and dislikes) and given a storyline (doing something specifically with the guy or alone with the guy). The last part is something important I think all harem provides. At certain points in the story, we sit back and go "What if he chooses ****** ?" Good harem series goes back and forth between who we think the 'center' person will choose. Also, sometimes, given that if not one character but another character was present, the story would change drastically to whom the 'center' character would get involved with(and the path to fanfics).

As i feel there is no set definition out there, I believe the tag of harem for Ubel Blatt is correct, but to answer the question of if i believe this series is a harem, I must vote no. Do we know anything about Peepi? We don't even know her real name. Would Altea help Koinzell like Ato did? I don't believe so.
[thanks for reading, i know its pretty long and easily passable ] smile wink grin

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5:38 pm, May 4 2009
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lol = i think it is like the 3 bears

One to big one too litte and the other Juuuuusst right! lol

but what i really find funny is i had actually had the same thought <seen above> as i finished the latest chapter - it DOES appear that our hero has aquired a following of lovely ladies but as was mentioned previously - since it is not really romantic it is not truly harem

it is damn funny though with his all girl posse biggrin

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6:04 pm, May 4 2009
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IT a harem or it gonna be. Besides the women in manga don't have to be in love with the main character for it to be a Harem, JUst as long as he is doing them

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Not really. The entire point of the story is revenge and not Kionzell getting ladies out of chance like a Harem.

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Quote from SirLoki
lol = i think it is like the 3 bears

One to big one too litte and the other Juuuuusst right! lol


O_O laugh

I voted, "no" too. It has harem-ish elements, but not really a harem manga.

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Quote from from Genres
A series involving one male character and many female characters (usually attracted to the male character).


Personally, haven't read this series, only heard some stuff. But as long as it's mostly "1 guy and many many girls," I'm pretty sure that still be considered harem (everybody doesn't have to be in love with main chara, example Change 123). Also I don't think it has to be a main theme in order for it to be added, just somewhat prominent I guess.



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