Ahh, but among Jazz is Dixieland, Swing, Bop, Contemporary, Blues and so much more. Anime has Shounen, Seinen, Hentai, Harem... I fail to see how the two differ in terms of variety.

As for it's point of prodection, some anime are produced Korea and, Taiwan and China. You don't have to take my word for it. Just pay attention to the credits. Not every animator's name is Japanese. Sometimes none of them are.

If the producer is Japanese, then it's an anime. It doesn't matter whether part of the project is outsourced to animation companies of other countries. Shounen and seinen are demographics not genres. Within Jazz there are sub-genres. A example of sub-genre is crime drama, which is a sub-genre of the genre drama. But I think some of those you mentioned are more like styles rather than sub-genres?

Exactly. It's about the market and production- it's still anime if some of the staffers are non-Japanese, but as long as the producer and market is Japan it's anime. Jazz is a genre with subgenre. Anime cannot be said to be a genre as there is no inherent content or stylization- compare, say, Mononoke and a generic harem if you want proof of that. Swing and Blues still have common elements and stylization, so although they remain different, they still fall under the umbrella genre. All those two have in common is that they are a.) animated, and b.) produced by a Japanese company for a Japanese market.


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hmm well to most anime fans that I've come across an anime must be made in the motherland. I mean Japan

Nothing useful to contribute because Avatar is better than most anime I've watched

Why does it matter? Only purists get hung up on it anyway? (I'll never forget being told I was a disgrace to my race for being a fan of Avatar)


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What if the show is aimed at a Japanese market but the person isn't Japanese? Or if the person is Japanese and it's aimed at another market? Is this anime lite? Bootleg anime? Treason?

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Grey area, but there are actually examples. Afro Samurai, for instance.

But generally, if it's aimed at another market it's not really anime- the person may be Japanese, but culturally the show will be something else. If it's aimed at the Japanese market there are Japanese companies involved in the primary distribution, and thus it is clearly anime.

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But what if its completely done like in japan. The same animation style/character design. Same type of culture. I personally consider Avatar anime. For me what makes an anime is the style of animation and whats typical of the character design. like the big eyes. Also that element of fantasy. whether its the supernatural powers in shonens, extreme bishounens, or the dream like romance in shoujos. It's all fantasy like. Avatar has both of these so for me its an anime

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See, here's the problem with that. There isn't one inherent style to copy- you can copy aspects from certain shows, but you're basically saying that shows like Cat Soup or Mononoke or whatever aren't anime because they are stylistically unique. That is a fallacy. Again, you're just talking about influence, if it's not Japanese it's not anime, it's just a show that's influenced by Japanese animation.

Again, that doesn't make it any better or worse than it is. It just means that it wasn't produced in Japan, which really shouldn't make much of a difference for anything other than the pure classification.

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This I agree with fully and I really did enjoy the avatar series for its style and takes from certain cultures.