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Toto
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Post #338258 |
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12:30 am, Nov 29 2009
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It's all the same... the only difference is the style and medium in which they are shown.
If you say the plot also differentiates them, then I say no... that's how you tell the difference between each series not where it came from.
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Mizi
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3:34 am, Nov 29 2009
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It bugs a little, but I don't often correct them.. unless it's someone who asks what it is... or i just feel like telling the specific person.
Like if my brother calls Naruto a cartoon-- I will let it be since he probably won't get the difference til older
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The Enemy
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4:40 am, Nov 29 2009
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I use to get all angsty on people when they referred to my precious anime as "those stupid cartoons from japan" then I sprouted pubes and lived a little. So now I refer to anime as anime around the fandom and around everyone else I just explain to them that they are stupid cartoons from Japan but that I find them rather entertaining. I also find that this question is a good way to judge at the very least the emotional maturity of a member of the fandom.
From 10 to 13 years of age I typically see comments such as, "Jezz, its anime not cartoons, cartoons are for little kids."
From 14 to 17 years of age I get the response, "Anime is like an art form... And anyway cartoons are for little kids."
Lets face it, we're watching cartoons none of the stuff out their (excluding the porn) is meant for anyone over the age of 16. that being said there is nothing wrong with watch something meant for older teen (or small children) when you're way older. Hell, not only do I enjoy anime I find that an old episode of Blue's Clues still makes me smile.
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Chibiheaven
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Post #338333 |
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6:58 am, Nov 29 2009
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Well, I mean ... It does bother me, but for the past few years, manga and anime has gained popularity. Now, most people can tell the difference.
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Vesey
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Post #338335 |
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7:19 am, Nov 29 2009
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It depends.
To me it's not just a manner of calling anime cartoons it's calling animation cartoons. There is a lot of western animation that's wrongfully labeled cartoon as well. It actually doesn't bother me if they just mean something animated which is usually the case.
Only occasionally do they seem to be trying to belittle it, then
i have issues, it also bugs when when someone thinks cartoon = everything animated except anime.
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tagno25
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Post #338341 - Reply to ( #338314) by The Enemy |
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8:02 am, Nov 29 2009
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Bothers me, but I ignore it; even though I have people I know call manga cartoons, even after being repeatedly corrected. It would be better if they called manga comics, since they are non-moving images.
Quote from The Enemy Lets face it, we're watching cartoons none of the stuff out their (excluding the porn) is meant for anyone over the age of 16. that being said there is nothing wrong with watch something meant for older teen (or small children) when you're way older.
Queen's Blade (nudity), Boku wa Imouto ni Koi wo Suru (incest), Candy☆Boy (yuri, implied twincest), Detective Conan (15+ year run), KissxSis(nudity), and Kanokon(nudity, bestiality), just to name some, are not hentai, though some almost are, and they are aimed at people 16+.
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story645
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Post #338350 - Reply to ( #338258) by Toto |
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9:34 am, Nov 29 2009
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Quote from Toto the only difference is the style and medium in which they are shown.
Actually, the whole point is that it's the same medium. All cartoons have the same basic ingredients of a collection of drawings stacked together to make a moving picture. Where countries really differ is style, but the anime influence has become so strong that styles are starting to blend and overlap and do all sorts of interesting things. Osamu Teszuka was strongly interested by disney, (who was influenced by the comics of the time, which were influenced by all sorts of things) so it's kind of like coming full circle.
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The Enemy
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Post #338352 - Reply to ( #338341) by tagno25 |
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Quote from tagno25 Queen's Blade (nudity), Boku wa Imouto ni Koi wo Suru (incest), Candy☆Boy (yuri, implied twincest), Detective Conan (15+ year run), KissxSis(nudity), and Kanokon(nudity, bestiality), just to name some, are not hentai, though they are almost, and they are aimed at people 16+.
Aw the nudity defense I'm surprised you didn't add Berserker since it both shows tits and is incredibly violent but then again like most of your examples it still falls into that category of "adolescence boy wish fulfillment". Which I will admit sounds insulting but my point has been that we should stop with this "anime is a mature form of entertainment" crap, which seems to be the underlying issue with the whole "do we call it anime or cartoons" thing.
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Post #338353 |
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9:57 am, Nov 29 2009
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Well, when I think "Cartoons" I think about shows such as Johnny Bravo, Tom & Jerry, Courage the Cowardly Dog...American Cartoons. If you've seen them, you'll know that they are so different from Japanese animation: Anime, that it isn't even funny. Though I think Crayon Shin-chan, Chi's sweet home, and similar, can pass by as cartoons. I don't know what that says though -.-
Anime seems to target a different kind of audience, or at least cater to a different one than Cartoons do. Take Welcome to the NHK! into example, and compare it to...I don't know, The Simpson or Family Guy. None of those are for young audiences, and the style of art is so damn different.
Words aren't just black and white. They have solid definitions, I'm sure, but everyone has different connotations.
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Toto
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Post #338357 - Reply to ( #338350) by story645 |
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11:32 am, Nov 29 2009
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Quote from story645 Quote from Toto the only difference is the style and medium in which they are shown. Actually, the whole point is that it's the same medium. All cartoons have the same basic ingredients of a collection of drawings stacked together to make a moving picture.
Claymation... stop motion in general are of a different medium yet are still cartoons.
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Post #338384 - Reply to ( #338357) by Toto |
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5:14 pm, Nov 29 2009
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Quote from www.dictionary.com Animated Cartoon
A motion picture consisting of a sequence of drawings, each so slightly different that when filmed and run through a projector the figures seem to move.
Well I don't really need this definition to make me think that Japanese anime and cartoons are really just on the same boat. People think that calling Japanese anime 'cartoon's is being derogative but to be honest anime finactics should get off their high-horse and realise that it really all isn't that different. Sure Japanese Anime is much more influential on a personal scale and the quality is better (this statement is arguable) in some respects. However saying that because Japanese Anime is greater or better than the cartoons you watch like Thundercats or Johnny Bravo it doesn't mean that it is 'not' a cartoon.
In my local language using the term, "I'm going to go read a cartoon" also applies to manga, in fact manga is so popular here, chances are if you say you're going to read a cartoon you're reading a manga.
Quote from tagno25 Candy☆Boy (yuri, implied twincest), Detective Conan (15+ year run), KissxSis(nudity), and Kanokon(nudity, bestiality), just to name some, are not hentai, though some almost are, and they are aimed at people 16+.
That is really more to do with the content than the actually medium. There are also cartoons made in western countries that target the adult market.
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story645
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Post #338397 - Reply to ( #338357) by Toto |
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Quote from Toto Claymation... stop motion in general are of a different medium yet are still cartoons.
That's just cause the term has been lumped to include just about anything that's not live action, and cause claymation relies on the same small shifts in frames as animation (and really all film). Basically clay figures are treated as a type of drawing 'cause they're manipulated by a creator. Even digital cartoons (like anything by pixar) are technically a different medium from traduced cartoons, but it's a bit of a lumped term.
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teh_cu
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Post #338398 |
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7:05 pm, Nov 29 2009
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it bothers me cause i havent seen spongebob grab a sword and split patrick open as a sea of blood spews out.
it also bothers me when they hear i watch anime and they ask me you watch those cartoons where they have sex. Cause apparently they saw hentai and thought that all anime is hentai.
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realmen
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Post #338401 |
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7:12 pm, Nov 29 2009
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Calling anime cartoons is justified because "anime" is just the Japanese word for "animation" -- I'm assuming Japanese people refer to Disney animations etc. as "anime" too. It's just a more specific term when brought outside of Japan when people want to refer to Japanese animation specifically. Basically "cartoon" has become the umbrella term for all things animated, methinks.
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iamsoocool
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Post #338430 |
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9:23 pm, Nov 29 2009
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i use cartoons to describe anime sometimes, and i've been raised by american cartoons so for me all anime are cartoons, its just a different type i guess. like manga, manhwa, to me are all comics, i know teh differences but ulimately tahst hwo i see them at there core.
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