manga04_jpg login_tab_left_jpg
Username:   Password:    Forgot Password?
App
Try out our new iPhone application!
App
Manga Poll
For background art in manga, you prefer...
Lots of detail
An average amount of detail
Very little detail
Sparkles and patterns that fit the mood is just fine
I don't really pay attention to the backgrounds
I don't care
 
See Old Polls

Manga is the Japanese equivalent of comics
with a unique style and following. Join the revolution! Read some manga today!

Coded in ConTEXT

Join #baka-updates @irc.irchighway.net

RSS Feed
 
center_left_tab Forums center_right_tab

You are now viewing a topic.

Categories(Tags) Bug Thread

Back to Suggestions & Bugs


Pages (24) [ First ... 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 ... Last ] Next You must be registered to post!
From User Message Body
Zina
Post #503970 - Reply to (#359079) by Eeled
user avatar
Member

5:17 am, Oct 28 2011
Posts: 89


Quote from Eeled
Just out of personal preferance, but I'd like to see a "Include/Exclude" option in the advanced search page for the categories =D

Quote from TheLittleE
Not really a bug, but can we get an exclude categories in the advanced genre search?


I was about to bring up the above idea, but it seams it's been brought up before. (I just read through the 13 pages of this thread. cool ) However, there were no response to those suggestions.

I think it would be vary useful to be bale to exclude categories when doing advanced searches. For example, a homophobic person could exclude "LGBT Character in a Non-Yaoi/Yuri Manga", or people uncomfortable with certain types of relationships could exclude "Age Gap" or "Student-Teacher Relationship".

P.S. I love categories a lot! Thank-you so much for adding it. eyes I've found all sorts of lovely manga using categories. I recently discovered that I could also add tags to series, and it makes me happy that I can help out, even if only a bit. shy

Last edited by Zina at 5:17 am, Oct 30

blueshadows
Post #506104
user avatar
Member

3:33 am, Nov 8 2011
Posts: 14


requesting category/ies for...
Download-Only (can only be downloaded, not read, online)
English/French/Spanish (Has been translated into this language)
Unavailable (was translated and all but was later removed for who-knows-why)
Depressing (basically, the story is depressing but not quite tragedy. heavy/thick mood?)
Holiday (based around a widely celebrated day ie. New Years or Hanukkah) biggrin

________________
Take away my freedom, you take away my life. Take away my culture, and you take away my identity. Take away my emotions, and you take away my voice. Take away my heart, and you take away my soul.
User Posted Image
lambchopsil
Post #506151
user avatar
Archon Solon
 

9:05 am, Nov 8 2011
Posts: 7849


No to the first 3

________________
A just ruler amongst tyrants

lambchopsil---
MangaUpdates admin

Join the MangaUpdates Folding@Home team! (and help humanity)
Click here for info. Easy signup
mogiks
Post #506153 - Reply to (#506104) by blueshadows
user avatar
Member

9:34 am, Nov 8 2011
Posts: 783


Quote from blueshadows
Holiday (based around a widely celebrated day ie. New Years or Hanukkah) biggrin


I would just point out that in British English, holiday also means vacation. Potential for confusion? How many manga are there that are actually "based around" one holiday? Maybe it'd be better to have separate categories. But bearing in mind many holidays don't show up much in manga, other than Christmas or Japanese holidays like Golden Week... Can't imagine there are many manga that have Hanukkah shown in them, let alone manga that feature it so much it warrants a category.

________________
世界のどこかに 必ず
キミの居場所が ある筈
mu2020
Post #506194
user avatar
the mu...
Member

3:52 pm, Nov 8 2011
Posts: 1033


Hotel/inn and inn/s should merge....
Hot spring/s and onsen/s should also be merge.... Maybe to something like hot spring/onsen

Last edited by mu2020 at 3:58 pm, Nov 8

________________
User Posted Image
if u wonder where the sig is from, just click the pic
lynira
Post #506319
user avatar
Site Admin

5:42 am, Nov 9 2011
Posts: 426


So, the categories section has been growing a lot, which is good, but it looks like some maintenance needs to be done. I've been working on that today (I'm midway through F right now). It's a little scary, because I always worry that I'm misjudging what others think. So I'm keeping a record of the changes I made (excluding little things like correcting misspelled words, etc.). I'll report them here, so if you have any objections, please share them in this thread (as opposed to PMing me) so that others can discuss it here.

Edit: There were a lot of changes to make, and listing them all was kind of impractical, so I uploaded two text files to the web. Here is a list of all the categories I deleted, and here is a list of merges and other changes.

Anyway, in the future, I'll try to monitor the categories better and delete bad categories when they crop up, rather than having to do another overhaul like this. Now that the overhaul is done, I'm not going to keep a list since (hopefully) there shouldn't have to be a ton of changes all at once anymore.

Last edited by lynira at 3:20 am, Dec 2

________________
Manga Cover Database
mu2020
Post #506363
user avatar
the mu...
Member

11:43 am, Nov 9 2011
Posts: 1033


Trying to help out......
Loli, loli as a subplot, and lolita should be merge

"english version dropped" I don't see the point of having this as a category especially since that description is already on the "english publisher" box.

Last edited by mu2020 at 12:02 pm, Nov 9

________________
User Posted Image
if u wonder where the sig is from, just click the pic
lynira
Post #506510
user avatar
Site Admin

4:06 am, Nov 10 2011
Posts: 426


To mu2020: I'm not sure about tags with "loli" in them all being combined... if it means lolicon, that's already a genre, so of course the tag should be deleted. But if it means a lolita, that's a person who dresses a certain way and tends to act a certain way (as far as I know... I don't know much about this term, to be honest), so that may be a viable category. Anyway, I'll sort through the bunch of loli tags eventually... Or if I'm lucky someone else will do it for me bigrazz

Edit: List of category changes got too long, see my previous post for links to the text files online.

Last edited by lynira at 12:52 am, Nov 13

________________
Manga Cover Database
waftingwish
Post #506850
user avatar
non-nyanko
Member

12:25 am, Nov 12 2011
Posts: 723


The following categories can be merged or renamed somehow:
Glasses
Meganekko
Bespectacled Protagonist
Bespectacled Character
Bespectacled Seme
Bespectacled Uke


________________
Looking for... shoujo with a canned peach confession.

Don't English Me I'm Panic
lynira
Post #506882
user avatar
Site Admin

3:31 am, Nov 12 2011
Posts: 426


to waftingwish: Bunches of categories like those are hard for me to decide how to deal with... categories that are sort of similar but also sort of different (they all have to do with glasses, but "Glasses" could be a theme rather than meaning just a character who wears glasses, "Meganekko" is a character that not only wears glasses but also usually has a certain type of personality, etc.), and also tags that are [adjective]+[character type] (there are tons of these; some are easy (like "Poor Boy", "Poor Girl", and "Poor Uke" can be combined into "Poor Character/s", since the difference isn't important), but for a lot of them, I haven't thought of a good solution yet). For right now, I'm leaving these for last and doing easier ones first, but I will try to organize them eventually.

Edit: List of category changes got too long, see my previous post for links to the text files online.

Note: I accidentally clicked on the wrong thing and merged "Strong Male Lead" with "Rude Protagonist". Since "Strong Male Lead" had way more entries (~350) than "Rude Protagonist" (~15), the easiest way to fix it was to rename "Rude Protagonist" to "Strong Male Lead", and then individually pick out the ones that were actually supposed to be "Rude Protagonist". So that's what I did; hopefully now everything is back where it belongs.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edit: Okay, I've come up with a set of rules about the problem waftingwish mentioned. Before I make changes according to these rules, I want to see what people think about them. Please look them over and tell me what you think (mainly directed toward staff but other users' comments are welcome, too).

Rules of Thumb for Managaging [adjective]+[character type] Categories

1. merge male and female into character (unless the adj is unusual for a gender)
ex, clumsy male and clumsy female -> clumsy character
feminine male, masculine female, long-haired male can stay
*long-haired female and masculine male can be deleted

2. merge uke and seme into protagonist (unless the adj is unusual for uke/seme or for gender)
ex, clumsy uke and clumsy seme -> clumsy protagonist
straight seme and straight uke can stay
long-haired seme and long-haired uke -> long-haired male
*gay uke and gay seme can be deleted

3. change personality into character
ex, childish personality -> childish character

4. merge hero and heroine into protagonist (unless the adj is unusual for a gender (in which case merge those with plain male/female) or describes a real "hero" (meaning a hero like someone who saves people rather than just protagonist))
ex, anti-social heroine and anti-social hero -> anti-social protagonist
long-haired hero -> long-haired male
legendary hero and super hero/es can stay

5. merge male lead and female lead into protagonist (unless the adj is unusual for a gender, in which case merge those with plain male/female)
ex, stubborn male lead and stubburn female lead -> stubborn protagonist
masculine female lead -> masculine female
feminine male lead -> feminine male
*long-haired female lead can be deleted

6. merge girl and woman into female and merge boy, guy, and man into male (unless the adj is unusual for a child/adult), then check with #1
ex, stubborn woman and stubborn girl -> stubborn female (-> stubborn character)
stubborn boy and stubborn man -> stubborn male (-> stubborn character)

*tags that are obvious, redundant, or otherwise not noteworthy should be deleted

NOTE: All of these rules of thumb change tags that are too specific into more general tags, but there may be times when a tag is too general and needs to be split:
Long-haired protagonist is too general because it "contains" long-haired female lead, a non-noteworthy tag. Therefore long-haired protagonist should be changed to long-haired male lead, which in turn (according to the rules above) should be changed to long-haired male (long-haired boy and long-haired man aren't different enough to be separate, so don't split it any further).
Nekomimi (or cat person) is too general because it contains cat girl/s and cat boy/s, which according to general opinion are different enough to be separate, so nekomimi should be split (however, don't change these further into cat female and cat male**).

NOTE2: These are just rules of thumb, and there may be exceptions:
Anti-hero/heroine should not be merged into anti-protagonist nor split into separate anti-hero and anti-heroine tags, because "anti-hero" is a specific term with its own established meaning.
Genki girl should not be changed to genki character nor genki female, and also a genki boy counterpart tag should not be created, because "genki girl" is a specific term.
**cat girl/s and cat boy/s should not be changed to cat female and cat male: "cat girl" and "cat boy" are accepted terms for this kind of creature (as a consequence, "cat female" and "cat male" sound weird and could even be confused with meaning a normal cat that is female/a normal cat that is male).


Last edited by lynira at 1:08 am, Nov 13

________________
Manga Cover Database
TheLittleE
Post #511345
user avatar
Member

6:10 pm, Dec 7 2011
Posts: 121


Do we need a Loli category when we have a Lolicon genre?

________________
http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?added_by=42742
lambchopsil
Post #511354 - Reply to (#511345) by TheLittleE
user avatar
Archon Solon
 

7:21 pm, Dec 7 2011
Posts: 7849


Quote from TheLittleE
Do we need a Loli category when we have a Lolicon genre?

No, destroy the Loli category

________________
A just ruler amongst tyrants

lambchopsil---
MangaUpdates admin

Join the MangaUpdates Folding@Home team! (and help humanity)
Click here for info. Easy signup
lynira
Post #511444 - Reply to (#511354) by lambchopsil
user avatar
Site Admin

4:00 am, Dec 8 2011
Posts: 426


Quote from lambchopsil
No, destroy the Loli category
Well, ok. I was hesitant to delete the category because I think loli may also be short for lolita (fashion, etc.), and this tag might have been added to some series in that way. Looking at the list of them, though, almost all of them have the genre marked as lolicon, so the majority of them (the tag "instances") are probably safe to delete. Anyway, it's gone.

Last edited by lynira at 2:18 pm, Dec 8

________________
Manga Cover Database
calstine
Post #511552
user avatar
Lone Wanderer
Member

9:59 pm, Dec 8 2011
Posts: 1302


The category "Unexpected feelings" strikes me as being completely unnecessary. All of those tagged by it are romance / BL / GL manga, but it doesn't make sense to say you 'expected' to fall in love with someone, is it? That'd mean about 80% of the love stories in the database would have to be tagged as such, which doesn't seem necessary at all.

________________
User Posted Image
deathbypenguin
Post #511565
user avatar
Member

12:21 am, Dec 9 2011
Posts: 137


@calstine
Based on the manga I've read under that tag, it seems to be for stories in which the characters really didn't expect to fall in love with a specific person. Either it was someone they hated, someone who was the complete opposite of their type, a relative, etc. There's also some with characters who have an "I'll never fall in love attitude" in the beginning of the story.

Pages (24) [ First ... 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 ... Last ] Next You must be registered to post!

Back to Suggestions & Bugs  Back to Top

Search This Topic:
 
Manga Search
MANGA Fu
MEMBERS
TEAM-BU


footer