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lynira
Post #561608
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11:59 pm, Jul 17 2012
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to coldlight, Miksa, etc.:
Man, you're right, it looks like the Strong Female Lead tag and its substituents (other tags like Physically Strong Female Lead, etc. that I consider to fall sort of "under" the general Strong Female Lead) are messed up now.

For a while I've thought that it might be best to split both Strong Male Lead and Strong Female Lead into emotional and physical weak/strong versions (so basically each would be split into 4 sub-categories), since it's more specific and thus should be better for helping people find what they're looking for. I've never actually done so though, because it was a lot more difficult to do than I thought (I talked with somebody about this once here).

Ok, so how to fix this... These categories are pretty large, so I'll propose what I'm going to do first here, wait a week or so, and if nobody objects then I'll make them.

1. Since it seems Strong Female Lead was renamed to Physically Strong Female and I doubt all of the series under it were necessarily there for having a physically strong heroine (could have been emotionally), I'll rename Physically Strong Female back to the more general Strong Female Lead.

2. I'd prefer to keep things about the female lead rather than just a female, since "female" is a bit vague--it could be any female in the manga, even a side character, and that doesn't seem very helpful as a tag. So I'll change Emotionally Strong Female to Emotionally Strong Female Lead. (Physically Strong Female will have already disappeared.)

3. "Mentally" and "emotionally" are pretty similar, so I'll merge Mentally Strong Female Lead with Emotionally Strong Female Lead. Also rename Mentally Weak Female Lead to Emotionally Weak Female Lead. (I don't feel too strongly about the word... either "emotionally" or "mentally" would be fine, I think, but I do want them consistent. So if it's decided that mentally is better, both the weak and strong tags should be changed to mentally so that they match.)

4. (extra) I'll create the following categories to serve as a sort of beginning "framework" (can't think of a better word right now) so that people will add to these categories under appropriate names. That way further mix-ups of people adding categories along these lines but with slightly different wording can be mostly avoided. I propose these names:
Physically Strong Female Lead
Emotionally Strong Female Lead (would exist after #2)
Physically Weak Female Lead (already exists)
Emotionally Weak Female Lead (would exist after #3)
Physically Strong Male Lead
Emotionally Strong Male Lead
Physically Weak Male Lead
Emotionally Weak Male Lead

Would that be cool with everybody?

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SleepyTigress
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2:57 am, Jul 18 2012
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I think these should be merge:
Beasts, Beast/s
cell phones, Cell Phone/s
Children, Child/ren
Demon, Demons, Demon/s
Magic Girl/s, Magical Girl, Magical Girl/s
Maid, Maid/s
Married Couple, Married Couple/s


lynira
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6:06 pm, Jul 18 2012
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to SleepyTigress: Thanks, fixed all of those.

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p3pelepe
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8:11 am, Jul 20 2012
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Another duplicate tags:
'Sexual Harassment' and 'Sexual Harrassment'

Toto
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1:19 am, Jul 21 2012
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All the Strong female tags that are "messed up" are do to users messing them up.

Also, what some think of as strong female characters aren't. Here's just a general idea of how to determine the strength of a character. I'm more likely to just get arid of the category altogether and start from scratch... if allow it at all.

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lynira
Post #562425 - Reply to (#562104) by Toto
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to p3pelepe: Somebody fixed it.

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All the Strong female tags that are "messed up" are do to users messing them up.
That's usally the case, but looking at the usage count (Physically Strong Female: ~1025, Strong Female Lead: 1) it looks like Strong Female Lead was mass renamed to Physically Strong Female, which only staff should be able to do...

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Also, what some think of as strong female characters aren't. Here's just a general idea of how to determine the strength of a character.[/url]
I'm mostly thinking about which categories should exist and which shouldn't, how to organize them, wording, etc... I'm leaving interpretation of the term (which series should go under the category) mainly to users and voting.

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I'm more likely to just get arid of the category altogether and start from scratch... if allow it at all.
But I think the emotionally and physically weak/strong male/feamle lead tags are useful. I do however dislike the unspecified Strong Female Lead etc., because they are vague (what kind of strength?), and ideally I'd like them to be split into the more specific subcategories (emtionally/mentally or physically) and as a result disappear.


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RocketDive
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2:42 am, Jul 25 2012
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I'd like to suggest that 'diapers' become a tag. There is an ageplay tag but diapers don't always go hand in hand with it in manga.



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strixflash
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'Quiet Male Lead' should be merged with 'Silent Protagonist'.There are hardly 3-4 series in Quiet Male Lead Category while Silent one have many.

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lynira
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11:47 pm, Aug 2 2012
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Quote from RocketDive
I'd like to suggest that 'diapers' become a tag.
Hm... no, I don't think that tag would apply to very many series and so wouldn't be very useful. Well, that's my opinion, anyway.
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'Quiet Male Lead' should be merged with 'Silent Protagonist'.
I don't know about that... I thought Silent Protagonist was for series where the protagonist literally does not say a single word (for example Link in the Zelda games, he never speaks), whereas Quiet Male Lead would be where the main character may talk but generally has a quiet demeanor.

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RocketDive
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Quote from lynira
Hm... no, I don't think that tag would apply to very many series and so wouldn't be very useful. Well, that's my opinion, anyway.


True, it is quite a rarity is manga. However, there is a large amount of age play and diaper fans out there, and with that kind of ratio any scene in a manga is a blessing. It's not always a sexual thing either, it can be just cute. Plus, it would be helpful to those who are not fans, so it would something they could avoid. Sweet Life, Please!! has age play and diaper content in it. I've come across others on here but that is the most recent one I read. Oh and there is actually no age play tag either. My mistake.

And do you think there could also be a tag for ugly men (don't know how to politely put it)? I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all, but I'm talking about these kind of ugly men http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2041/14353608.jpg . dead If not, would it be okay to tag manga with men like that simply 'old man'?

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3:34 am, Sep 26 2012
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The categories Male Harem and Reverse Harem are the same thing. Reverse Harem is the established term, particularly when talking about anime, manga and otome games, but male harem might be clearer in meaning and it has a lot more examples; perhaps someone created the Male Harem tag and changed all the old Reverse Harem examples to Male Harem, because I only remember seeing Reverse Harem before now. Whatever the case, one of them should be deleted. I prefer Reverse Harem myself, since it's the main term used elsewhere in the anime/manga/gaming community to identify the sub-genre. Occasionally I've thought that Reverse Harem ought to be a genre, but the tagging system works fine functionally too, and I'm not sure there are enough reverse harem series to justify making it a genre anyway.

I notice also that a Female Harem tag has popped up; it must be recent because it only has two examples. Female Harem is tautological; harem by definition indicates its members are female, and on the site that's always been the assumption when harem is used as a genre on a series, unless it is qualified by a reverse harem tag. I suppose the creator made it in order to parallel the reverse harem tag and differentiate between the two when the harem genre is used as a catch-all genre for both types, but I don't think the Female Harem tag is necessary. We've done without it until now anyway.

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lynira
Post #571904 - Reply to (#566211) by RocketDive
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to RocketDive: An age play tag seems like it should be all right (in my opinion), go ahead and add it where it applies. I'm still not convinced about a tag for diapers, though.

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And do you think there could also be a tag for ugly men (don't know how to politely put it)? I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all, but I'm talking about these kind of ugly men http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2041/14353608.jpg . dead If not, would it be okay to tag manga with men like that simply 'old man'?
I know what you mean... characters that are purposefully drawn as ugly (and you can see in the story and other character's treatment of them that they're supposed to be ugly). This is what the ugly male/female lead tags are for (they are not supposed to be just someone's opinion of how well something is drawn, personally not liking a certain character design, etc.). Outside of main characters, it is probably not that important, though, so I'd be opposed to something that sounds so general like "ugly man" as a tag. (Because it could be any man in the manga. I'd like to keep tags focused on main characters and not get too much into side characters.)

to holy'bell: Harem is a genre, so I've deleted that category (not Reverse Harem, though, that one's still there).

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Dekcah
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9:08 pm, Nov 11 2012
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I was looking at the Monster girl and Monster girls categories and noticed that they should be merged into Monster girl/s category.

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11:46 pm, Nov 11 2012
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Someone fixed it

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7:41 am, Dec 1 2012
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There's adfasfsafs category, and there are quite a number of series under that category: http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?category=adfasfsafs
There are 1366 agreed, 155 disagreed, and 258 series under this category.

Is this a prank or really legitimate category? If this legitimate, I don't understand what this is for...

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