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kitty1826x
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How about a "Do not get attached to characters" tag? For those mangas where there's only ONE safe character (the main character) exist. In other words there's no permanent side characters.

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To Tripitaka:
Sorry for the really late reply; I did most of these in early April, but I put off typing up the summary. :/

-I renamed Faithful Protagonist and Loyal to Love Interest to Protagonist Loyal to Love Interest. (I thought maybe Faithful Protagonist might not mean the romantic sense, but all the series listed seemed to be romantic faithfulness, so I merged them.)
-I'm going to leave the Loyalty category alone. To my understanding, that category is meant to be used when loyalty is an important theme in a manga, rather than just a character attribute.
-I'm leaving Oblivious Protagonist and Clueless Protagonist alone. A clueless person is not only unaware of external matters but also internally stupid, whereas an oblivious person might actually be intelligent despite being unobservant. In other words, a clueless person is always oblivious, but an oblivious person is not always clueless.
-I merged Slacker Protagonist into Lazy Protagonist.
-I'm going to leave Rapist Protagonist and Rape alone. One describes an attribute of the main character, while the other describes an event; they will not necessarily both occur in the same manga. I'm tempted to delete Rapist Protagonist (because it has very few entries), but I'd wager that there are a lot of dirty manga where the protagonist is a rapist, but they just haven't been tagged yet.
-I merged Impassive Protagonist into Emotionless Protagonist. As far as I know, impassive and emotionless are complete synonyms, so I think it's fine to combine them.
-I renamed Noticing Things Other Humans Don't to Observant Protagonist. I think it's different from Seeing Things Other Humans Can't, since that usually refers to seeing spirits, etc., that other people are literally unable to see (i.e., special powers). Noticing Things Other Humans Don't is more like seeing things that technically are already visible to everyone (this was the case for the two series under the tag--nobody had any special powers, just observant).
-I merged Chased with Hunted Protagonist.

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How about a "Do not get attached to characters" tag? For those mangas where there's only ONE safe character (the main character) exist. In other words there's no permanent side characters.
Despite being a spoiler, I think a tag for that situation is fine, except that it needs a better name. You have a knack for thinking of hard-to-name categories, lol. "Only Protagonist Survives" describes the situation concisely, but being so specific makes it such a bad spoiler that I wouldn't use it... So, I'm thinking "Many Character Deaths" might be the best fit. It's short, vague enough that it isn't too bad of a spoiler, and has a little flexibility. If created, the already existing "Character Deaths" tag should probably be limited to manga where only a small number of characters die, to avoid being redundant.

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Post #644148 - Reply to (#642194) by lynira
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Thanks for taking care of all these tags.
I've got another suggestion: The Meganekko tag seems to be used wrongly - as far as I know the term only applies to female characters - so it would be better to combine it with its male equivalent, Meganedanshi, to avoid further misuse. Then you could also merge the redundant Glasses and Megane/s tags into the joint category.


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lynira
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I'm aware of the issue, and I'm slowly working through them. Your solution (combining them all into one category) would be a lot easier, but I think it's best to have male and female versions, since I think that most people using this sort of tag do care about that.

The plan is to rename Meganekko, Meganedanshi, Megane/s, Bespectacled Protagonist, Bespectacled Seme, Bespectacled Uke, and Glasses into Glasses-Wearing Male Lead or Glasses-Wearing Female Lead where applicable (or delete if not referring to a main character). It's just going to take a while before I can finish.

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Post #645142 - Reply to (#642194) by lynira
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Quote from lynira
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How about a "Do not get attached to characters" tag? For those mangas where there's only ONE safe character (the main character) exist. In other words there's no permanent side characters.
Despite being a spoiler, I think a tag for that situation is fine, except that it needs a better name. You have a knack for thinking of hard-to-name categories, lol. "Only Protagonist Survives" describes the situation concisely, but being so specific makes it such a bad spoiler that I wouldn't use it... So, I'm thinking "Many Character Deaths" might be the best fit. It's short, vague enough that it isn't too bad of a spoiler, and has a little flexibility. If created, the already existing "Character Deaths" tag should probably be limited to manga where only a small number of characters die, to avoid being redundant.


Heh, I guess I do have a knack for picking out hard things to name.
After thinking about possible names for this tag ... how about "dispensable characters" , "detachable characters", or "severable characters"?

(Wow it took a month of thinking? I must be busy with life ... or reading manga lol)




- What the point of the tags "Based on a Fairytale" and "Fairy Tale" ? Errr I mean more is there a difference between the two.
- I was browsing through some tags ... is there a need for a "prequel" tag?


some misused tags
The tag Stockholm Syndrome should be removed from Suna no Rasen there was no kidnapping in the manga ... (well not between the two main characters that is)
Also Kodou , and Unbalance na Netsu for the Stockholm Syndrome tag, there was no kidnapping in these manga either.

Kimi no Iru Sekai Shikairanai - Stepsiblings , and Stepbrother/s should be removed. They both share the same father by blood.
Kitsune no Tama Yobai tag of Shotacon as a Subplot. It's listed under the genres, and definitely not a subplot.

Color (MIMORI Ao) for the tags - "Love Triangle/s" (-4 score) and "Infidelity" (-3)

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5:16 am, Jul 1 2014
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Is the category tag "VRMMORPG" really necessary when you can just use "MMORPG" + "Virtual Reality" together?

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7:28 pm, Jul 3 2014
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Allies Become Enemies is similar to Friends Become Enemies
Demon Love is similar to Demon Lover
Enemies Become Allies is similar to Enemies Become Friends
Hetero Sex in Yaoi Manga is the same as Straight sex in a yaoi manga
Human Becomes Demon is similar to Human Becomes Monster
Overprotective Sibling/s similar to Protective Sibling/s
Protective Older Brother is similar to Protective Brother
Slow Romance is similar as Very Slow Romance
Young Lover is similar to Younger Lover

Is there a difference between Elite School, Prestigious School, and Private School

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kitty1826x
Post #646267 - Reply to (#646266) by Cross2018
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I would say there's enough of a difference between Human Becomes Demon and Human Becomes Monster

Not all monsters are demons. Things like vampires, werewolves, and such could be considered monsters, but not demons.

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Post #646307 - Reply to (#644462) by lynira
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Quote from lynira
I'm aware of the issue, and I'm slowly working through them. Your solution (combining them all into one category) would be a lot easier, but I think it's best to have male and female versions, since I think that most people using this sort of tag do care about that.

The plan is to rename Meganekko, Meganedanshi, Megane/s, Bespectacled Protagonist, Bespectacled Seme, Bespectacled Uke, and Glasses into Glasses-Wearing Male Lead or Glasses-Wearing Female Lead where applicable (or delete if not referring to a main character). It's just going to take a while before I can finish.


May I ask to exclude merging 'Bespectacled Seme' and 'Bespectacled Uke,' and leave them as separate categories please? I believe each category is popular enough to stand alone as fetishes, and may help reduce people making more unnecessary 'glasses' threads in the 'Yaoi/Yuri' forum.

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Quote from Cross2018
Allies Become Enemies is similar to Friends Become Enemies
Demon Love is similar to Demon Lover
Enemies Become Allies is similar to Enemies Become Friends
Hetero Sex in Yaoi Manga is the same as Straight sex in a yaoi manga
Human Becomes Demon is similar to Human Becomes Monster
Overprotective Sibli ...


Allies and friends aren't the same thing.
You can become somebody's ally without being their friend.
I think Gantz is a perfect example.

I also agree with Catz about leaving uke/seme related fetishes separate.

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kitty1826x
Post #646325 - Reply to (#646307) by CatzCradle
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Seems like those tags were already deleted ... Not sure if lynira can bring them back or not.


Although I agree with you, and NightSwan about the bespectacled seme & uke tag. What would be the purpose of keeping bespectacled protagonist if there's already a glasses wearing male lead, and female lead. Or was the tag going to get deleted at some point? ...

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