Deleted the Harem tag

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The Happy Sex tag has disappeared for the second time.

Last time, I got an admin's approval to re-add it, which I did almost single-handedly, only to have it deleted again. I'd like to avoid restoring it in vain this time. So please talk to me whoever you are that wants it to be gone.
I'm more than willing to discuss this matter with anyone who considers the tag unnecessary. It'd be great if we could find a solution to this problem together. But please just stop deleting it without further notice.


Last edited by Tripitaka at 7:14 pm, Aug 4 2014

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To be savoured:
- Blood Alone by TAKANO Masayuki
- Otoyomegatari by MORI Kaoru
- Gangsta. by Kohske
- Seishun Kouryakuhon by AKIZUKI Sorata

EDIT: Sometimes, I am an idiot.
It completely slipped my mind that we have the category Male Demographic with Female Lead! I'm assuming someone merged it into that. I also merged Male Shoujo Protagonist and Shoujo with Male Lead with Female Demographic with Male Lead.

Yes, that was me. As a precaution to help keep less relevant tags from being added to series, I like to keep tags worded such that it's obvious that they must be used for important characters only (which is why I like to avoid using tags like "[adjective] character/s"). But you are right, the current wording ("protagonist" and "male/female lead") is a little too restrictive, keeping things to just one or two of the main characters. Even if a character isn't the protagonist, as long as he/she is very important to the series (e.g., the members of Luffy's crew in One Piece), I'm okay with having a tag about them. The trouble is just that I have never come up with a good, clear term to refer to them that doesn't overlap with the existing protagonist & lead categories. I have once or twice heard these main-but-not-the-protagonist characters called "central characters" or "principal characters," and now that you mention it, "ensemble characters" isn't too bad either, but for all of those, I'm just not confident that the meaning is clear enough to everyone to actually make it a tag. I've basically put it on hold until I can think of (or someone suggests to me) a good term to use. I know I always make a big fuss about clear wording, but unclear wording leads to misused tags, and misused tags mean headaches for me and the rest of the staff.

Yes, I'm fine with that. I'm willing to take CatzCradle's and NightSwan's word on the matter.

Yes, it's redundant, so I think the male lead version of the tag should be deleted for any series that has the seme or uke version. But it's very easy to find the double-tagged series using the search feature, so you don't really need to report them individually (at least not for now; there are going to be a lot as the seme & uke versions get re-added).

I'd say, usually, no, unless the glasses are significant in some way (e.g., I once read a oneshot where the male lead only wore glasses sometimes, but his behavior changed when he had them on). Just keep in mind the rule for what tags can be added, and judge by that: "When you are thinking about adding a category, first ask yourself if the category you are adding defines the series or commonly pops-up when describing it. If the tag seldom applies, please don't add it." Also, I just want to mention, that in that same line of reasoning, this sort of appearance-related tag is best-suited for series that tend to focus on appearance (most ecchi, most yaoi, etc.), because it will actually be important in the minds of most of the series' readers--unless the glasses are actually plot-relevant, as mentioned earlier.

If the third member is very prominently featured, then I'm fine with using a "___ lead" tag for that character. (E.g., he/she appears to be a lead sometimes or his/her role is very close in importance to the other two--which is to be expected for love triangles, because it's often hard to tell who will actually end up being the couple in the end.)

Thank you! I took care of those. I forgot to mention it in my last post, but any labeling of series that still have the Bespectacled Protagonist with the appropriate glasses tag (male lead, female lead, seme, uke) would help me out--especially with the seme/uke tags... they're more work for me to look up compared to the others. (No need to worry about reporting them individually, I can easily find them.)

I feel like there's a big enough difference between cheating of married individuals vs. unmarried for them to have separate tags. Therefore, my current plan is to leave Adultery as is, make a new tag for unmarried cheating, and sort the Infidelity tag between the two (effectively, deleting it). The annoying thing about the Affair/s tag is that I've seen it used not only for series featuring adultery, but also for those with short-term fornication (one-night stands and week-/month-long flings between unmarried people). In other words, its entries needs to be sorted among Adultery, One-Night Stand, etc. (again, meaning it would effectively be deleted). It's just going to take me a while before I can get around to doing that.

You're very welcome! I try my best. I appreciate everyone's patience as well--I know I've been very slow about getting things done here lately.

Again? What a pain. I'll ask about it.

Last edited by lynira at 6:36 pm, Aug 11 2014

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I see, thanks for the replies on my questions.

You seem to have missed an edit I made two days before you made your post.
"Should Insecure Character merge into Insecurity. The latter has more usage, and I believe has been around longer."

Also how about a Impersonating someone tag? I keep running into these Twins that pretend to be the other one, or some blind date where one person can't make it so he/she asks a friend to pretend to be them, for that one date or something.


I'll probably edit this later to include a report of more tags to be taken away. Or maybe not I ended up taking a break from a story that seems to be mislabeled as incest, when they are step siblings.

Shiawase no Kanzume The Genie/s tag should be removed. I can see why it might be mistaken. The can does have a god of happiness in it, that brings happiness, but he's not a genie.

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Ah, sorry! I missed that last edit there at the bottom. That's what I get for trying to rush through that reply. MISTAKES EVERYWHERE.

Well anyway, I'd say no, they shouldn't be combined. In my understanding, Insecurity is supposed to be used when it's an overall theme in a series, while Insecure Character refers to a character trait. (However, I would like the wording changed so that it refers to main characters only. I will deal with that later.)

Sounds fine to me. We have Body Swap/s, but that's for people who literally trade bodies, so I think it's different enough. (Actually, I have a strong feeling that we did use to have some tag like "trading places with someone," or something to that effect, but I can't find anything of the sort right now.)

That's a bit of semantics (how strictly one interprets what constitutes a genie). Personally, I think the strict interpretation is usually the most useful when it comes to categories, so I combined Genie/s with God/s for that series.

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The manga Me and the Devil Blues (www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=453) has come out of the dead and will continue in a new magazine. As such the categories related to it's rushed ending should be deleted. Thanks

I suggest changing the barely used Photographic Memory tag to Exceptional Memory; that way we could add all kinds of other memory-related abilities or conditions like autobiographical memory or reincarnated memories.

By the way, someone re-added the recently merged Memory Loss. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?


Last edited by Tripitaka at 12:04 pm, Sep 6 2014

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"Stories are what death thinks he puts an end to.
He can't understand that they end in him, but they don't end with him."
- Ursula K. Le Guin, Gifts

To be savoured:
- Blood Alone by TAKANO Masayuki
- Otoyomegatari by MORI Kaoru
- Gangsta. by Kohske
- Seishun Kouryakuhon by AKIZUKI Sorata

to somemango:
According to Kodansha's website, it does indeed seem to be continuing serialization, so I removed the ending-related tags.

to Tripitaka:
I think I'm going to leave Photographic Memory as is. It's by far the most common term used to describe a extremely good memory, to the extent that most people simply lump conditions like hyperthymesia, etc., together with it, and call them all "photographic memory" (at least, they do where I live). I'm fine with the the tag Photographic Memory being used in this sort of catch-all way, because that is how the term is used in everyday life. Memories of a past life, on the other hand, would be more like a supernatural phenomenon rather than having a very good memory.

I merged Memory Loss into Amnesia again. It would be nice to be able block tags, but currently there isn't any way to do so (hence the repeated annoyance of having people make tags that are just genres). But those mass-merges and mass-deletes are easy to do, so it's not too bad (in other words, a feature like that is a very low priority).

Last edited by lynira at 9:07 pm, Sep 14 2014

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Alright, then I shall add all the series with hyperthymesia to the Photographic Memory category.

Is the Reconciled Couple tag okay for stories in which a couple, who used to be together but broke up, gets back together?

And how about a Dishonest Protagonist tag? Of course, there's the Tsundere tag, but there are leads (e.g. compulsive liars) who are dishonest without being tsundere.


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"Stories are what death thinks he puts an end to.
He can't understand that they end in him, but they don't end with him."
- Ursula K. Le Guin, Gifts

To be savoured:
- Blood Alone by TAKANO Masayuki
- Otoyomegatari by MORI Kaoru
- Gangsta. by Kohske
- Seishun Kouryakuhon by AKIZUKI Sorata

Sounds good.

Certainly sounds applicable to me. Even if a couple broke up (temporarily "not a couple"), it's the same two people becoming a couple again.

Sounds fine to me. Actually, there was a category called Liar/s, which I have just renamed to Dishonest Protagonist.

Last edited by lynira at 5:56 pm, Sep 20 2014

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Wrong tag for Sinryeong- Naive Male Lead with (+0,-6)

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Okay so I was bored, and saw there's a bit over 800 left with this tag. Almost done lynira.
Where you can get rid of Bespectacled Protagonist and I added the proper Glasses-Wearing lead.
Sensei to Himitsu o...
Loveholic - Renai Chuudoku
Yoru wa Betsu no Kao
Megane-chan no Akaiito
Melodramatic Library
Rensou Mode
Sensei Ote o Douzo
Suits no Kuni
Toro
Yowamushi Meikyuu
Yuusetsu Taion
Midnight Secretary
Saitama Chainsaw Shoujo
Saishuu Heiki Kanojo
Game Over (MIZUTANI Fuka)
Kyousou Heaven
Love Hina
Private Prince Also the Age Gap has a score of -1 (24/25)
Rouge Noir
Shite, Okeba Yokatta Koukai
Stroke Material
Suki ni Natte mo Ii no?
Tsundere! - Megane Café e Youkoso
Yakuza Girl
Yoru Koi
Kimi no Hada o Kowasu Yoru
Hikitateyaku no Koi
Oyayubi Hime
Love Stalking!
Houkago, Seifuku o Nui de
And, Love!
Konya, Mister de
Heart o Uchinomese!
Sensei to Ikenai H
Sensei, Suki.
Suki o Choudai
Anata ga Watashi to Kurashitara
Kareshi Toshishitakei

Nisennme no Propose The glasses wearing person is from the boyfriend of the main female lead, but I wouldn't call that boyfriend the main male lead. (he's more a side character IMO)

Film Girl Also not sure why Disability (-5) and Dog/s is doing there ...

Orange Yane no Chiisana Ie This also has Stepfather/Stepdaughter Relationship and Stepmother/Stepson Relationship which most of the time I see those tags used more in a romantic sense ... I'm not sure if it's just supposed to be for a non romantic family bond, or just for those stories where the love interest happens to be a step parent and step child.

Otona Pink Love Polygon should be deleted as it's only a love triangle with one female lead and two male leads, no other people for love interests.


There's also a bit with both Male lead and Seme ; Male lead and Uke. (I linked both the searches to save you the time from doing that. Still talking about the Glasses thing).

Hmmm I see what you meant by not needing to post them individually ...but it was a process I went through. Well at least some of them needed some other tags deleted too, heh.



Is there really a need for Shota Protagonist and Shota Character/s? I mean there's a Shotacon genre ...

A Lolicon tag has seemed to slip in even though there's already a Lolicon Genre.

There's also a Lolita/s tag which given the actual definition would be used in the same way as Lolicon and thus deleted, but it seems it's being used to describe the "Lolita Fashion" so the Lolita/s tag should probably be renamed (or deleted, I personally don't see a need to tag a manga with the way character/s would dress ... There's also a "Gothic Lolita/s" tag that should also get renamed or deleted .... Speaking of Goth... There's a few tags that seem to be overlaying a bit like "Gothic", "Gothic Art Style", "Gothic Character", "Goths")

Chobits has a few tags with negative scores, Hikikomori (-4), Lolicon as a Subplot (-4), Lolita/s (-4), Otaku (-4), Perverted Male Lead (-6)

Josei with Male Lead should probably merge into Female Demographic with Male Lead
Before Lookalike/s gets used too much that should probably merge into Doppelganger/s

Isn't Deity/ies and God/s the same thing and should be merged? (If they do get merged I think they should merge into God/s since there's a "God-Human Relationship" tag and "Demigod/s" tag and other god related tags.)

Ummmm is there a need for tags like "Mexico", "China", United Kingdom" "Japan" "America" "England" "North America" "Asia" "Europe" Etc.


EDIT-
Okay either I am blind, or this tag was made after I made mine .... (I know I checked O.o Even when I was spelling Impersonat nothing was popping up.)
There's an "Impersonation" and "Impersonating Someone" tag (the latter I made) and they should probably merge ...

Last edited by kitty1826x at 8:47 am, Nov 18 2014

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"Mind Control" tag was deleted and all mangas have no mention of it anymore. I distinctly remember there were many under it.
I have started rebuilding this list it but can the previous lost list be recovered?

Last edited by marc1 at 1:09 am, Dec 4 2014

Might I suggest merging the "Cool [character]" tags into the "Stoic [character]" tags? "Cool" seems incredibly vague to me as it could have at least two meanings, and I think the "Stoic" and "Cold" character tags already covers all of them.