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Can animals be gay? (Note: I mean NON-HUMAN animals, lol.)
If they're in same-sex couples or if they copulate exclusively with the same sex, sure. They're gay.
Uh, NO. "Gay" is a human label and doesn't apply to other species, regardless of same-sex activity.
No, because hardly any animals engage SOLELY in same-sex behavior. They're bisexual!
Kinsey Scale, anyone?
Animals aren't gay OR straight, and humans aren't, either. Heterosexuality and homosexuality are both illusions. We all just shag and/or love whoever we want to. FREE LOVE, BAYBEH!
Who cares? As long as my same-sex dog doesn't try to mount ME, I'm fine. (Oh, wait...)
NO, I AM IN DENIAL BECAUSE MY STRAIGHT GOD MAKES ALL CREATURES STRAIGHT. >:O
NO, I AM IN DENIAL BECAUSE MY DARWINIAN EVOLUTION MAKES ALL CREATURES STRAIGHT. >:O
NO, BECAUSE THE SCIENCE IS WRONG AND THIS IS ALL PART OF A GIANT CONSPIRACY TO TURN THE WHOLE PLANET GHEY. THOSE GHEY FOLKS... THEY'RE TAKING OVER THE WORLD! /homophobic freakout
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I just read this awesome and incredibly funny article about gay animals! (Reliable source; it's the New York Times' science column.)

Please ONLY participate in this discussion AFTER you've read through at least the first page of that article! Otherwise, we'll have people making silly comments like, "Animals don't have sex with other animals of the same sex." Well, it's been scientifically documented for centuries that they DO. Have homosexual sex, I mean. So read the article, please! After that, discuss it from whichever viewpoint you choose. smile

Funniest quote from the article:

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For more than a century, this kind of observation (of homosexual behavior in animals) was usually tacked onto scientific papers as a curiosity, if it was reported at all, and not pursued as a legitimate research subject. Biologists tried to explain away what they’d seen, or dismissed it as theoretically meaningless — an isolated glitch in an otherwise elegant Darwinian universe where every facet of an animal’s behavior is geared toward reproducing. One primatologist speculated that the real reason two male orangutans were fellating each other was nutritional.

NUTRITIONAL! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, those orangutans. They sure know how to have fun.

For me, it was news that even orangutans know about blowjobs. Forget the gay thing, that was the biggest shock for me... Orangutans know about oral sex? Shock! Horror! I always though only humans were so sexually inventive! But apparently not, because - and I quote - "Male Amazon River dolphins have been known to penetrate each other in the blowhole."

BLOWHOLES! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

The human equivalent would be what... nose-f*cking? Dear God. These animals ARE more inventive than we are. I feel humbled. Like... we've been bested in a particular kind of evolutionary intelligence, or something. (That said, if we had blowholes big enough to use for that purpose, we probably would use them for that purpose. Ain't our fault God/evolution/chance only gave us three usable, measly little orifices. Hrmph.)

Apologies for the very silly and obviously biased poll. Loooool... No offense to anyone's religion or homopho-- er, personal beliefs. biggrin I love all of you. Seriously.

EDIT: Another must-see at the New York Times... The Love That Dare Not Squawk Its Name. A super-cute, gay-friendly slideshow of adorable animal couples!

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LOL That is the most laid back post I have ever seen you write. I can't believe it.

But yeah. I dunno.
Apparently BECAUSE Dolphins can have gay sex AND sex for fun it makes them as smart or smarter then us?

And personally... I think one of my cats is gay. I have three males and for reals the gay one is totally Uke. It's ridiculous. Especially since I don't even read yaoi and I understand what that is.

"A female koala might force another female against a tree and mount her, while throwing back her head and releasing what one scientist described as “exhalated belchlike sounds."

...Lovely...

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Lol! I sound so laidback because I was just so AMUSED by this article! It was like... an instant relaxant, or something. (But not the digestive kind. bigrazz )

I like your comment about smarts... Leaving the whole sexuality thing aside, apparently certain whales have a more complex language than we do. And language complexity can be considered the hallmark of intelligence, right? I remember seeing in this documentary once, that was speculating about the existence of aliens, that even if aliens DID visit our planet, it was hubris to think that they'd want to visit US. Apparently they'd visit the whales. Because the whales are smarter. biggrin

Anyway, back to the potential gayness of other species... I feel that this scientific research shows us that other animals are much more complex, behaviorally and psychologically and perhaps even socially, than we had ever given them credit for. To me, more than anything, this is the coolest part of the research... That they're so much more like us than we'd imagined, and that we aren't so "superior" or "different" after all.

Your uke cat sounds cuuuuute! A "neko" in more ways than one. bigrazz So sweet! Do you have a pic somewhere? (Not of him being an uke, I mean; I wouldn't want to invade his privacy by taking photos of him in that compromising position and possibly blackmailing him with them later like in so many seedy thriller stories. biggrin Just photos of him being, um... him. Lol!)

YEAH, THE RAPIST LESBIAN KOALAS ARE WIN. This article is just filled with these crazy, awesome one-liners... And all in such officious, "scientific" language! Lmfao!

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I kinda skimmed through the first 3 pages... well, human and animal behaviour are all varied... soo... live and let live. smile Life sure is colorful, ain't it? smile

After all, there're heterosexual people, gay, bisexual, transgender(or was that transexual), intersexual, etc., etc. Hell... I think there are even plants with both female and male parts, as well as certain organisms are partially animal and also plant.

Then... if you want to talk about disorders, personality types and other stuff: there's bipolar, asperger's, sociopathy(which has been posited by some, to be a personality type instead of a disorder), autitism, etc., etc.

Sooo... whatever the hell. bigrazz And yes, I might read the article more carefully soon but not now, for the mighty me is sick... bigrazz

And thank you for those photo links... cool animals, yeah. smile

And oh, I did not vote 'cos I have no idea which option to choose. smile

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There's my little uke. His name is Hector.
And to explain WHY he is uke....There are a couple of reasons.

-He is ridiculously shy, tiny skinny and has the personality of every stereotypical uke known to fangirl-kind.

And... well. I have three boys... and they are brothers.... and there is incest.
George is a 30 pound asexual cat who never thinks about sex.
Sometimes Hector would try to mount George, but since he's 30 pounds George has no idea what is going on and Hector falls off. It's High-larious.

Then there is Oscar. Now Oscar is the manly kind of cat that will hump anything. Like since there are no female cats are around he will bite Hector on the neck and do everything cats "do" except hump him. And Hector LOVES it. He will just sit there with this stupid grin.

And thats the story about my uke cat Hector
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OH MY GOOOOOOOOD KITTEH_13, THAT IS A TOTAL UKE KITTY YOU'VE GOT THERE!

SOOOOO CUTE!

The fact that Hector tries to mount George (and fails) definitely marks him out as uke material. Lol! Failure to mount! And that George remains so supremely indifferent... Hahaha! Oh my gosh, this is like the typical yaoi manga with unrequited incestuous love... And then one day Hector will meet a dark, dashing tomcat with a gimlet eye, who will seduce him and win his heart, but Hector's lingering attachment to his brother George will cause the new seme to be heartbroken because he's just being used as a "replacement"... Heh!

Or, you know, Oscar and Hector could get together. Although Oscar seems like the playful, playboy seme-type... Not Hector's destined one, perhaps, but an occasional shag on the way? biggrin

For some reason, your story reminds me of Yaizu Brothers Fucking Cool, except that the "George" in that manga isn't asexual, just resistant to "Hector's" advances.

I HAVE THIS UNHOLY URGE TO SEE HECTOR'S "LOVING IT" GRIN WHILE OSCAR FAUX-MOUNTS HIM, BUT I SHALL RESIST. Because seriously, how unlikely would it be to get that candid shot?

Edit: Toto, that link is most excellent. PENIS FENCING! Lulz.

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LOL I don't take pictures but I laugh at them and walk away.
I've always thought my cats had great personalities and always thought it would make a good story.

And I think I'll be reading that series. n_n


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Yeah, I know about dolphins and stuff (actually heard about that on one track, never mind) and that it doesn't decrease their population.

I heard lots of stories about gay cats and dogs (mostly stray-ish ones, not live-in ones, not like I like what I see and my owner doesn't allow me to have sex outdoors; and though that cats were live-in, there were also females around).

So nothing uber hilarious.

P.S. Too much options, too much.

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lol
I don't know
but thats something to think about

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@Kitteh_13

I think your cats are just in heat. You need to neuter them like everyone else does. That's not a relationship, they are just in heat. none


*Snip Snip* biggrin

Now sing with the music, *Snip Snip, the cat goes bye*

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Can I read it later? ^^; it's 5am already and I should be waking up rather than sitting here lol.

Anyways...
Why is it so surprising to you?

Yes, I believe animals can have gay and lesbian sex.
Why? Because it's fun.
I've also read that homosexual sex between animals is more relaxed and pleasant for them.
Less struggle, driven by the reproductive instinct.

Animals can have homosexual sex, they can even masturbate with things.
Not just other animals. But that's more of a monkey thing, I think.


Not much of a question for me, but everyone's free to discuss away? :3

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Who cares? As long as my same-sex dog doesn't try to mount ME, I'm fine. (Oh, wait...)

Oh, wait... What? Oh, wait... I don't think I want to know.

I don't think there are gay animals. If there are, there's only very few and they have possibly something wrong with their brains.

Homosexual activity is very common with animals, but homosexuals relationships? As in, not sex between friends, but like living in a family—for those animals that have a family system (though it's mostly a human thing)—I don't think there's such things between same sex animals.

Homosexual sex is one thing, homosexual family relations are another. Yin-yang is yin-yang on purpose, it's not yin-yin or yang-yang. You're not supposed to marry a person just because you love them. I'm all for free love, but marrying requires more than just love. Some people aren't made for that kind of relationships at all.

Sigh... I just not able write straightforward text anymore.

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I think your cats are just in heat. You need to neuter them like everyone else does. That's not a relationship, they are just in heat. none


*Snip Snip* biggrin

Now sing with the music, *Snip Snip, the cat goes bye*


They've been snip snip for the past 8 years. o_o
Thats why its annoying that it hasn't gone away.

Neutering pets doesn't get rid of most of their desires.
My friends cat who has been neutered enjoys humping legs and blanket. He even has his own "pillow". It's horrifying. My friend just laughs.

By the way, if your dog is having these urges you can provide them with a new option: the dog sex doll.

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