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Harimau
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9:27 am, May 8 2010
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First of all, I must say, this manga is so fuckin' epic.
Secondly, having read chapter 12, I have a theory that the Black King is
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Jesus
. bigrazz
Thoughts?
And anyone have any other theories, for anything in this series?

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Deva
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I didn't even think of that but after chapter 12 I have to say you may be right. The only thing that bothers me about your theory is the staff of the Black King.

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Jesus is the most fitting guess (he was called The Good Shepherd therefore the staff maybe ?) but I think Moses, Petrus or another Apostle are possibilities.
My theory at the moment is : The Black King is Jesus humanity, he resurrected as son of God but all his pain and suffering were transfered to the Drifters world.


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The healing ability that the Black King showed, as well as his words, "I tried to save humans. But I was denied." led me to the hypothesis that he is the offscouring of a "mortal" Jesus that died on the cross. But yes, the shepherd's staff alludes to Jesus as a shepherd, and his name, "Black King" may allude to Jesus' title as King of the Jews
or perhaps just be a typical "Evil Lord" name, but I'd like to think it is the former.
I think that
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Jesus is most likely based on the above, but yes, it could be another Apostle (or another figure from a different mythology, but unlikely). Though I think the healing factor, and the concept of "brotherhood", suggests Jesus.

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Also, Jeanne D'Arc, was burned at the stake - a form of execution, and she is an offscouring. There is thus a relationship between offscourings and people who were executed (wrongly) - and which execution is more famous than Jesus' crucifixion?


Something that may be of note,
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is that the staff has a dragonfly on the end of it. Also, scars on his arms. Onions?


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Scars: Jesus was flagellated before crucified but then why hasn't he any scars of the crucification itself ?
Dragonfly: Dragonflies were symbols of the devil in mediaeval times if I remember right

Anastasia and Rasputin were murdered not executed, I don't know about the Shinsengumi guy though.

Probably the main reason I can't really warm up for the Jesus theory is because I don't like the idea of Jesus becoming a bloodthirsty emperor, but the mangaka butchered Christian mythology pretty good in Hellsing so I think it's very likely that the Black King is the offscouring of Jesus.

At the moment I can't think of other mythological figures killed by the people they wanted to save, ideas ?


Could somebody edit the title and add spoiler because all this tags are a little bit annoying biggrin

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Holy crap at the latest chapter.
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Adolf Hitler founding another discriminant empire, then committing suicide.

Freaking crazy, Hirano.

This is as good as a confirmation.
Drifters Chapter 20 Page 11:
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the puncture scar in the black king's palm


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I would just like to say this manga is probably the most interesting manga I have read in a very long time. The story is very, original.

However my theory off who the dark king would have to be

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Jesus of course. I don't believe there was any other "famous" person in history who healed others. But I guess what is questionable is that Jesus was killed and then "revived" and finally returned to Heaven. However I am assuming if he was Jesus, this would be right after he was killed. And will probably end up like Adolph Hitler in the story. At first I thought he was Adolph Hitler but that one chapter cleared that one up.


But seriously, great effin manga.

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