I did contemplated suicide few times...never tried it. few years back i felt really depressed and lot of things were going on in my family life/my life in general. but listening to music helped me a lot and also writing poetry(lot of them---few of them about contemplating suicide)...another thing that stopped me from trying it was thinking of my mom, i dont want her to feel sad and cry...i just couldnt go through with it because of it. and im glad i didnt do it because life is already too short and i wanna do my best to be the best i can be and make my family(mom and siblings) proud of me.

this is one of the reasons i cant be without music...it is a escape for me when i feel depressed and trapped.

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Contemplated suicide? No. Homicide? Yes.

I've thought about both at same time. Back when i was bullied seemed the best and funnest way to go out. But then i realized how much that really would have sucked if i was in his shoes, so never really acted on it. Now i'm glad i didn't cuz i bulling taught me a lot about life, and i'm thankful i was one of the many people who were able to get bullied and survive.

Did some crazy stuff back in the day. Still do.

Suicide, to me, isn't a horrible thing. But by commiting suicide, a person indirectly says that they were weak in character and have no self-worth (it wouldn't be surprising if people did it for mehs and lulz too though..) My motto is that unless you're stuffed in bag you have to be accountable for your own actions and development. Of course I do not mean a literal bag.

When a person is dead they lose all chances for even minimal happiness.

It also fits into one's definition of suicide. As a child, I asked my senior of ten years: if someone had to commit suicide in order to literally save another person, would they go to hell? The answer had been yes. Since then I considered life suicide by proxy. That's just how my mind works.

The only thing that keeps me going is my journey for happiness and satisfaction. I haven't really changed much from the person I was four years ago. I veer between okay self-worth and self revulsion and it is rare that I manage to fight unhappiness for the better part of the day. But I grit my teeth and smile and hope that I don't make other people upset. If not, I'll have myself a take-out pity party...like I'm doing right now.




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Life means more to some people than it does to others. All life is equal? I loathe the very idea.

Suicide are for weak people who can't face the harsh of reality. Not all people who commit suicide is poor. I often see the poor people tend to have more will to life than those life in luxury.

To put it simple, people commit suicide because they don't have someone to support them to face the reality. That's all there's to it.

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I wouldn't agree with that. I wouldn't agree with a statement, that surviving is always the best choice. There are circumstances, under which committing suicide would be the perseverance of your own humanity. Sometimes surviving only prolongs pain and the feeling of being a burden to others.

I lived for a year with my dad, who had a terminal condition. He was suffering, and it was tearing our family apart. It's not something you can deal with. I was a mess and I tried to commit suicide, just that once.
I'm happy that I failed, but that taught me something very important: not fearing death. Loving life and not fearing death at the same time. Thinking about it as an option, "if everything else fails you could still kill yourself, so there is nothing to worry about, live on".

But that's also why I fear the regulations in my country - euthanasy is illegal, and our country is infamous for not prescribing painkillers (having about 10% of the morphine consumption per patient compared to Germany). I don't fear death, but I really fear suffering, having witnessed it before. I hate the idea of not being able to die if I wanted to. Everyone has the right to live, not the obligation.

And I would be far from stating that only the weak commit suicide or try to. Sometimes it is the case - for me it surely was. But in many cases it would just be the lesser evil. I can't think of people committing suicide in the concentration camps as weak, neither of the people trapped it the WTC or having cancer.
And the "affecting the family" part - sometimes living on may be more harder for the family to handle than suicide. Would you rather witness someone you love drink a poison and die willingly, or to see them struggle for life in pain?

I never ask your agreement. That aside, someone who feel their very existence is a burden to others, is obviously weak, and give the feeling of being needed is also part of support I mentioned.

Suicide is one of greatest sin. I might not seem like one, but I actually am a religious person. Someone who can't bear the pain and suffering of life is weak. I pity those who don't have even a single thing which can support them through the life of suffering. For me, I have my faith.

That question are likely from someone who never consider the existence of hope and happiness. Well, I simply soothe the pain. Of course I will be in pain looking someone dear to me suffer. But, don't you know that God does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity and Indeed, with hardship [will be] ease.

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You surely never asked for agreement, neither was it my intention to suggest, that you might have had.


Is being weak a sin?
Assuming you are Christian (judging by your post, I'm sorry if I'm wrong) - life is supposedly a gift from God. Is what you are implying, that this particular gift is not really a gift, but more of an obligation?


Not really. I don't believe in the afterlife, so I try to have as much happiness (happiness as in Greek eudaimony, not hedony) as possible in the life I'm living now. Hope is a different thing - I do have hope, but it doesn't stretch far further from what I think is possible.

Hey, don't put words in my mouth! I said anyone who commit suicide is weak, not all weak people commit suicide. Think it like water is liquid, but not all liquid is water. Of course being weak isn't a sin. We are all weak on our own, what make we strong is something else.

That's an old story, when you become adult you will doubt your beliefs and struck by the strong desire to seek the truth (well, that's what happen to me though, not all people concerned enough to do that). By the way, I am muslim. Islam and muslim are two different thing, not all muslim understand and apply the teaching of Islam. There are bad and evil muslim but it have nothing to do with teaching of Islam.

-Then did you think that We created you uselessly and that to Us you would not be returned?;
-Does man think that he will be left neglected?;
-Or do those who do evil deeds think they can outrun Us? Evil is what they judge.
-And We did not create the heavens and earth and that between them in play.
-Who remember Allah while standing or sitting or [lying] on their sides and give thought to the creation of the heavens and the earth, [saying], "Our Lord, You did not create this aimlessly; exalted are You [above such a thing]; then protect us from the punishment of the Fire.;
-That no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another, and that there is not for man except that [good] for which he strives, and that his effort is going to be seen, Then he will be recompensed for it with the fullest recompense
-So whoever does an atom's weight of good will see it, and whoever does an atom's weight of evil will see it.


Does man not consider that We created him from a [mere] sperm-drop - then at once he is a clear adversary? And he presents for Us an example and forgets his [own] creation. He says, "Who will give life to bones while they are disintegrated?" Say, "He will give them life who produced them the first time; and He is, of all creation, Knowing." [It is] He who made for you from the green tree, fire, and then from it you ignite. Is not He who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the likes of them? Yes, [it is so]; and He is the Knowing Creator. His command is only when He intends a thing that He says to it, "Be," and it is. So exalted is He in whose hand is the realm of all things, and to Him you will be returned.

Life purpose?
-[He] who created death and life to test you [as to] which of you is best in deed - and He is the Exalted in Might, the Forgiving
-And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me. I do not want from them any provision, nor do I want them to feed Me. Indeed, it is Allah who is the [continual] Provider, the firm possessor of strength.
-And whoever strives only strives for [the benefit of] himself. Indeed, Allah is free from need of the worlds.

If God is the most compassionate and merciful, why there are still many people suffer? With His mighty He can always make all people happy. So why?
-Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" and they will not be tried? But We have certainly tried those before them, and Allah will surely make evident those who are truthful, and He will surely make evident the liars.
-Or do you think that you will enter Paradise while such [trial] has not yet come to you as came to those who passed on before you? They were touched by poverty and hardship and were shaken until [even their] messenger and those who believed with him said,"When is the help of Allah ?" Unquestionably, the help of Allah is near.
-Or do you think that you will enter Paradise while Allah has not yet made evident those of you who fight in His cause and made evident those who are steadfast?

All the bold words are taken from The Noble Qur'an. Anyone who have prejudice towards Islam must have seen too many fabricated news. Let me tell you, don't trust media. If you really seek the truth, stripped down all your prejudice and learn it yourself. Islam and muslim are two different thing, not all muslim understand and apply the teaching of Islam. There are bad and evil muslim but it have nothing to do with teaching of Islam.

One more, what happiness you gained from life at it is? Without goal to get eternal happiness in heaven in afterlife, from born to die life just as "human". Born -> Adult -> Married -> Have a kid -> Die. Exactly just like a mere livestock. No, even livestock has a merit for human food.
And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind. They have hearts with which they do not understand, they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear. Those are like livestock; rather, they are more astray. It is they who are the heedless. What I'm trying to say is, when people don't have goal in his life, he will life a meaningless life. My faith is the motivation for me to keep struggling to life, because I have goal to achieve.

I will stop here since this isn't a religion forum discussion. Anyone who want to ask, just PM me.

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everyone have the right to their own life. however, i do think most people are suicidal due to mental disease or life hardship thus it is the society, and the government obligation to help them regain their interest in life. i'll never presume the person is selfish or bad or weak - i do not live their life so i do not understand their train of thought. but i do believe treatment, counselling, or removal of cause of suicidal thought will provide a better outlook for them.

i think a person abused all their life, send to sexual slavery and beaten but still hang on to life is admirable. but it is no fault of any downtrodden people to escape their misery life by death - it is all the society's obligation to help the weak and the defenseless, their misery are partly our fault for casting our eyes away from them.

even suicide that we considered shameful - such as death for love or debt - the society shouldnt condemn the individuals but we need to improve our education system and support system etc so people will make better decision in their love life and financial life.

People can do whatever the fuck they want with their life.

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The hell is that?

So edgy.
So ignorant.

my life's not shitty enough to make me actually commit suicide yet. but i did think of how to die without bothering or letting anyone know.

Well this is related to suicide.

- I was looking on the internet to find out if you can get visitors when you're placed on suicide watch. (Needed to know for a story I'm writing) When I stumbled upon this, 31 Things To Do Before You Commit Suicide. Now I am not suicidal, but the title intrigued me so I go to the page, and read the list. Some of these are what I think would be common sense, unless you're an inconsiderate a**hole, but some just made me laugh.
was the person who made this list serious? Buy one if you don't have one, then say goodbye? Unless that person thought hey maybe if you have a pet you'll change your mind, otherwise that's just being mean, and possible dangerous. (Let's say the person wanting to commit suicide live alone, and not in contact with anyone except for co-workers. After he offs himself, not only would the dog who bonded with him want to die too, but could starve to death if not found. Unlike cats dogs don't eat the owner, heh).


- As for my thoughts on the subject. I think at one point or another someone would think about it, and in some cases they would seriously contemplate it. I am actually one of those who seriously thought about it ... good think I have thanatophobia otherwise I wouldn't be here >.> It was a very dark time back then. How I deal with the thanatophobia ... I really don't think too much into it, but when I do I can't breathe, and get very panicky. Which is also what lead me to my coping mechanism. (If you're really curious check out my 2nd post in how you cope with unpleasant events ).
More thoughts - I ultimately changed my mind into thinking that committing suicide would be giving up. A cowards way of throwing in the towel. If I know anyone that does commit suicide I would eat chili and chocolate laxatives and go take a big ___ on their grave out of anger. No joke, I would be pissed. I can understand thinking about it, like I said earlier I thought about it, but I don't understand actually doing it. Meh there's a bit more, but I'm this subject is pissing me off a bit.

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That made me smile (In a good way, duh... )

Don't say people who commit suicide are cowards though. >_> Not everyone is sadomasochistic enough to enjoy living.
I would call cowards people, who where born in lucky enough circumstances that made them able to think for themselves, yet they broke under pressure and chose not.

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The hell is that?