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Takayuki Yamaguchi has ended his samurai manga Shigurui in the September issue of Akita Shoten's Monthly Champion RED magazine on Saturday. The manga adapted part of Norio Nanjo's historical novel Suruga-Jō Gozen Jiai, and the 2007 Shigurui: Death Frenzy television anime series in turn adapted the manga's story. Funimation released the anime in North America. The 15th and final volume of the manga will ship in Japan on October 20, but there will be an "important announcement" in the next issue of Monthly Champion RED on August 19.


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I'm not happy with this.

It means they plan to cover the entire tournament and final battle in one volume.

The last fight between seigen and fujiki took something like 80 pages by itself. The tournament should take at least 2 or 3 volumes.

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2:56 am, Jan 24 2011
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what a ending, truly magical like the rest of the manga. one question, what happend to frog boy? anyone know?


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what a ending, truly magical like the rest of the manga. one question, what happend to frog boy? anyone know?


Ending seemed like a rush-job to me. I think they just cut off some of the other plot threads.

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Actually I took a long break after long time finding no translation (Wish I could find time to learn japanese one day wink ) and was kind of sceptical after catching up with it over two months after having read the stuff before.

Well, what should I say. I was absolutely amazed by this ending. It made perfect sense to me, didn't seem too short nor too long and was really suitable imo.

About the frog guy: I think he was just a side appearance, and I don't think these side stories were ment to necessarily have an end. They just appear and tell a short story of a different story line, but that doesn't mean that it has to be followed all the way. I found it enjoyable the way it was.
I don't think the rest of the tournment was that important either. Obviously, it's a joy to watch fights in a manga of such quality like Shigurui, but it's not necessary to show fights unrelated to the plot.

So, why did I like this ending...
First, it was a great fight once more. It was short, yes, only a few moves, but should it really break with the previous style? The blood revenge duel between Fujiki and Seigen was exeptional for this kind of scenario already by lasting so long, would it be good showing this another time?

Second, it ended in a suitable tragedy to the whole story. What happened to the two very likely greatest fighters of their time? They put up a brilliant fight, and people don't even notice! They just think two idiots fought... they just see Fujiki beeing unable to hold his sword (when he actually threw it on purpose as a fake to Seigen), see Seigen falling for the fake and triggering his deadly attack too early (thinking he missed because he couldn't be able to detect anything without his eyes and just stroke randomly) and conclude "a total failure, a disgrace to the lord." Seemingly they didn't even recognize what an amazing Tsubazemari one-armed Fujiki used, far exceeding everyone elses' powers.
What irony, what tragedy.

Third, it came with a great character developement. Seigen's story was suitably concluded, and Fujiki's developement finished when the duel started. To then totally crush him in that dramatic turn. Right when he finally found some respect for Seigen, he's supposed to humiliate his remains. A huge moment.
Fourth, the ending wasn't necessarily closed (what would Fujiki do now?), yet closes the plot absolutely by only leaving one person alive.

I think that it was good to conclude this story as a full fledged drama. It was a tense drama to begin with, in those psychic barriers and cruelities of a mafia-like organised samurai patriarchy under Kogan. The characters were constantly striving for death and destruction, and that what they got in the end, almost in perfection.

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I wasn't sure of the ending since the series was being scanlated inconsistently and I don't really remember what happened until I thought about the last volumes I previously read. Since then to reading the last volume I definitely must agree with the above post. The series already is set to be a tragic, sad story so the ending worked perfectly.

No one understood how amazing both Irako and Fujiki are except the very few who witnessed their skill, which made the fight seem fleeting and almost pointless. The love between Fujiki and Mie are glimmers and hopeful bits that you ultimately know would never come to fruition. So the death of Mie is honestly the piece de la resistance to the tragic fate of the Koban Ryu style and its last member, Fujiki. Fujiki was the epitome of the Koban Ryu style and he was stripped down to nothing in the end.

His hate for Irako became admiration, his admiration became disgrace for beheading Irako, and then his love for Mie was taken away from him with her suicide. I also thought the tournament couldn't be completed within one volume but that wasn't what the series was about.

The whole point of the tournament was that one single fight; that one single fight that from volume one was built up only to end tragically. I was almost hopeful for Fujiki and Mie to get together at the end but that would have completely taken away from the series as a whole so I wasn't mad. The ending was a great way to finish off the series and I wouldn't have had it end any other way.

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hey can anyone tell me why mie dono killed her self?

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hey can anyone tell me why mie dono killed her self?


The way I see it, Mie hated samurai who would do anything their master commands them to do. Although she was pleased with Fujiki avenging her father, when Fujiki was commanded to behead Irako and had a nosebleed, Mie remembered how Fujiki was, amongst other Kogan-ryuu students, holding her down so that Irako could rape her (even though the rape didn't happen) and that made her choose to rather kill herself than to live together with Fujiki as they had planned to.

That's the way I'd interpet the ending, but it's pretty vague and allows different interpretations I guess.

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i didn't expect her to die. kinda sucks. and i feel like the manga was seriously rushed cuz so many sub plots were just ignored. like the frog samurai, chika, etc.

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i didn't expect her to die. kinda sucks. and i feel like the manga was seriously rushed cuz so many sub plots were just ignored. like the frog samurai, chika, etc.

I think it's because he expects you to go and read the book.


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the books name is "suruga-jou gozen jiai" right? u know where i can read it? couldn't find it in Google


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hey can anyone tell me why mie dono killed her self?


The way I see it, Mie hated samurai who would do anything their master commands them to do. Although she was pleased with Fujiki avenging her father, when Fujiki was commanded to behead Irako and had a nosebleed, Mie remembered how Fujiki was, amongst other Kogan-ryuu students, holding her down so that Irako could rape her (even though the rape didn't happen) and that made her choose to rather kill herself than to live together with Fujiki as they had planned to.

That's the way I'd interpet the ending, but it's pretty vague and allows different interpretations I guess.



Makes more sense. It infuriated me me not to understand wy she commited suicide. At first I thought it was something to do with the fact she still had feelings for irako, but in the end it was the samurai way of life that pushed her to commit suicide. Poor Fujiki. cry

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About the frog guy and company. The original novel told a story of all the fighters of the tournament—from the beginning Shigurui concentrated only on Fujiki and Irako. Adding some of the other fighters added to the dept of the story, I think: it shows that there is a lot of things going on behind the scenes even if they are not told much about.

This story was, in effect, about the decline and fall of Kogan school of swordsmanship, a tragedy revolving around two of the fighters in the tournament. If you can read Japanese get the novel. There's also another manga version of the novel (basically just the story told in simplified mode with pictures) but it sucks so don't read it.

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