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umm isn't this manga kinda for pedophile?

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so what is the draw of this manga anyways? it has great review from every site but from first impressions it seems to me that this manga is kinda creepy with a romance between a 3rd grade kid and a 23 year old. So tell me what is the appeal of this manga?

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The appeal is the lolis, of course. Just like how certain manga focus on the girls having big chests, this one focuses on the girls 10 years before that occurs. wink

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Well. It's funny and the girls are cute. And it's just interesting. I mean the appeal is about the same as any slice of life manga it's just there are little girls into it. So yeah it's a good for people who like slice of life and/or little girls.

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Just to note, there isn't any romantic relationship between the dude and the girl. The teacher sees the girl's sexual harassment as just her teasing him and never takes her seriously. It's alright as a slice-of-life story, but it kinda degrades even more in the later chapters...
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like teaching the girls how to use tampons with pictures included was not really necessary imo. The girl masturbating was even more so, even if it does develop the story somewhat...


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most people tend to think that, based on the first impresion...

actually, it's more like a slice of life mixed with "aging", where the mangaka (who's a woman) shows the self- and relationship- development of the characters

the sexual stuff is actually important because, well that's real life (first menstruation, sexual interest, etc) wich is displayed in the girls and the senseis too (girls are too young to really understand, and senseis are getting old and are looking for a partner desperatly) also, it's nice to see real development in them and not just a running gag through years

when you take that into account, it becomes clear why it's a seinen drama (sometimes too dark), and not a fetish one

I do think without the explicit scenes sometimes (maybe just implying would be ok) are too much for some people (mostly newcomers) but you have to remember it's a different culture

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It definitely could do without some of the over-the-top fanservice of prepubescent girls (if you find them sexually attractive IRL please go get help now >_>) But I think that later in the story it actually does become more serious and less exploitative of the main characters. If you took out some of the cheesecake, it would have major potential to be a really great manga.

Not to say it isn't, but you really have to approach it with a very open mind and try to ignore some of the more disturbing parts. The characters aren't super one-dimensional, imo, and are very memorable. The mangaka is extremely good at what she does, it's impressive that she took a lolicon fetish idea and turned it into an actual legitimate series.

Just be careful if you decide to purchase it...lol

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it´s pretty much psychological. the children are more moeblob with dark past. read more about it here. (accroding to this there was only one pantyshot)
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* Anyone who is interested in psychology should read this series to find out if they are ready to answer the call.
* Ditto for teaching - this manga shows a number of things important for a real teacher, including tedious things like working out lesson plans and dealing with a challenging class. Any men interested in teaching elementary school might think twice after reading this, though.


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(If you find them sexually atractive IRL please go get help now.


I don't find 3D children any more attractive than 3D women.

Nothing about this manga is disturbing in the slightest. It is a good series.

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lol, I bet the FBI and Chris Hansen is watching this thread and all the people who gave positive commentary on the series info page. Beware pedos, the Law is onto you guys! laugh

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So tell me what is the appeal of this manga?


perhaps the same reason why people read hentai?

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(If you find them sexually atractive IRL please go get help now.


I don't find 3D children any more attractive than 3D women.

Nothing about this manga is disturbing in the slightest. It is a good series.


I never said anyone did. But finding IRL children sexually attractive is kind of sick.

I'd disagree that it's not disturbing, though. I think it has its moments where it's meant to kind of get a rise (notthatkind) out of its audience. There are some legitimately funny parts, though.

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As expected when I first saw the thread title, this thread is full of shallow comments.

"Oh but dey be little girls herp. That's pedophilia! deeeerp."

This series is not about lolicon. It may be targeted at lolicons, but the story isn't about it.
Perhaps if some of you mature enough, you might see that it goes beyond sexual themes.

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18 USC 1466A
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By its own terms, the law does not make all simulated child pornography illegal, only that found to be obscene or lacking in serious value. And mere possession of said images is not a violation of the law unless it can be proven that they were transmitted through a common carrier, such as the mail or the internet, or transported across state lines.[41] There is also an affirmative defense made for possession of no more than two images with "reasonable steps to destroy" the images or reporting and turning over the images to law enforcement.[42]


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In April 2006, the American citizen Dominic Sousa was jailed in the allied nation of Canada for importing it.

In October 2008, the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund became involved with the case of Christopher Handley. In 2009, Handley plead guilty to the charges and in February 2010 was sentenced to six months in prison.[51]

In October 2010, a 33 year old Idaho man, Steven Kutzner, entered into a plea agreement concerning images of child characters from the American animated television show, The Simpsons engaged in sexual acts.[52][53]


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As expected when I first saw the thread title, this thread is full of shallow comments.

"Oh but dey be little girls herp. That's pedophilia! deeeerp."

This series is not about lolicon. It may be targeted at lolicons, but the story isn't about it.
Perhaps if some of you mature enough, you might see that it goes beyond sexual themes.


QFT

And Pediatricia, you missed the point of what I was saying, not that I care.

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18 USC 1466A
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By its own terms, the law does not make all simulated child pornography illegal, only that found to be obscene or lacking in serious value. And mere possession of said images is not a violation of the law unless it can be proven that they were transmitted through a common carrier, such as the mail or the internet, or transported across state lines.[41] There is also an affirmative defense made for possession of no more than two images with "reasonable steps to destroy" the images or reporting and turning over the images to law enforcement.[42]


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In April 2006, the American citizen Dominic Sousa was jailed in the allied nation of Canada for importing it.

In October 2008, the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund became involved with the case of Christopher Handley. In 2009, Handley plead guilty to the charges and in February 2010 was sentenced to six months in prison.[51]

In October 2010, a 33 year old Idaho man, Steven Kutzner, entered into a plea agreement concerning images of child characters from the American animated television show, The Simpsons engaged in sexual acts.[52][53]


I'm kind of confused as to why you're replying to my particular message with these... Sorry to not understand

@MKII- it's kind of hard to get any points when you're on the internet and can't read people's tone. There's really no need for any kind of condescending remarks if I misunderstand your post's intentions... :I

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18 USC 1466A



The law misses the point, being a pedophile is a psychiatric disorder, you won't turn into a pedo by reading manga or seeing photos. In truth, this law only makes the pedophily matter worse, as it happens with any sexual psychiatric disorder the person is normally aware that wanting children is wrong and can keep it down satisfying their addiction in harmless ways. Depriving pedos only makes it more likely that they will do it for real. Arresting people because they have loli/shota manga is the same as arresting someone just because he is a pedo, like he had chosen to be one.
Not that this law really deprives anyone, it can't fight against internet.

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