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Wow,finaly a good chapter!

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Looks like the theory on narutofan isn't as true as I hoped it its.Well now we know for 100% Minato it Narutos dad and the Akatsuki leader is also most likely Uchiha Madars which I didn't hope for but well...


At least I'm looking forward to the new chapter again

what do you think about it?

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Don't you mean that Tobi is Madara Uchiha? The Akatsuki leader is getting pretty crazy though, since he has all those clones of himself, or at least that is what it looks like.

Another thing, what was with that Yin and Yang chakra thing? I'm confused are both sealed within Naruto using two different seals?


I'm looking forward to the next chapter too. But I am also hoping the series is going to wrap everything up within the next few months and ends. Everything is being dragged on and on.

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it was pretty good. Apparently the "tobi is madara" is looking more plausible...... I wanted it to be obito. I like the back story on the nine tails too

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Obito is Tobi but somehow he got madara's powers.

And now for my theory .

Sasuke and Itachi try to stop Tobi . They defeat him. Sasuke steal/takes tobi's/madara's powers.

Naruto learn to control the yin and yang of the ninetails.

Big fight Demon Sasuke Vs Ninetails naruto .

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I love how kishimoto actually technically showed Madara ages ago (valley of the end) but only told us about it now. I'm glad Tobi is probably Madara, he probably knows the jutsu that orchimaru was trying to create. I don't want Tobi to be Obito he has no reason to be evil and he should be left dead. Another reason he isn't likely to be obito is that if he is they have to show the kakashi gaiden as part of the anime and i doubt that will happen.


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Kakashi gaiden is definitely going to be shown at some point, whether part of the series or part of an AMV

There's no way for Uchiha Madara to be existing in his original body. My personal opinion is that his spirit has taken over the remains of Obito's body.

All I know is that Jiraiya is going to get a royal beatdown and this chapter was one of the best : ]

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Don't you mean that Tobi is Madara Uchiha? The Akatsuki leader is getting pretty crazy though, since he has all those clones of himself, or at least that is what it looks like.

Another thing, what was with that Yin and Yang chakra thing? I'm confused are both sealed within Naruto using two different seals?


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In Oriental mythology and lore, there are two types of chi, spiritual energy, chakra in Naruto. One represents light, the other darkness. So Naruto only got the light chakra, which means that there is a great deal more to the Nine-Tails stored in the key, I think.


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UwAAAA!! Great chapter! So much background info! Can't wait to see what is in store next week.

And I totally disagree that Obito has anything to do with anything other than where Kaka-sensei got his sharingan. Not only is he dead - his whole half of his body was crushed. Definitely not a viable body to use for body transfer...and I wonder what Itachi will think about Tobi's real identity when he finds out. lol That will be great fun!

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And I totally disagree that Obito has anything to do with anything other than where Kaka-sensei got his sharingan. Not only is he dead - his whole half of his body was crushed. Definitely not a viable body to use for body transfer...and I wonder what Itachi will think about Tobi's real identity when he finds out. lol That will be great fun!

I agree with you I still don't think that obito is tobi fused madara or something like that. (and don't see how people can do the link)...
But I think that Itachi always knew and maybe even killed his entire clan under the orders of Madara.

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good chapter, a lot of things come together and yet even more questions spring up...

first, its confirmed that there is still a "that" jutsu for naruto to learn so he can still get stronger. also, as someone said, its 100% that minato (4th) is his dad. and it also seems like that frog scroll guy is the key to releasing the seal on the kyuubi's chakra which naruto requires to finish whatever jutsu the 4th thought up.

now the speculations:

i agree with whoever said that tobi is probably madara in obito's body. the argument that obito's body was crushed just doesnt hold up in the naruto universe...weve seen heads cut off and put back on, a successful spinal surgery to remove countless shards of bone from the spinal cord, and countless more injuries that no one should be able to come back from. a crushed body doesnt mean that someone cant fix it up. also as proven by orochimaru, dead people can be brought back to life. but this requires 2 things: a body(obito) and soul(madara). this would also explain how madara/tobi has the sharingan and only in one eye. even with orochimaru's jutsu, the body would not be able to use madara's sharingan techniques since its a bloodline limit. however if madara's soul was put into obito's body who already had the sharingan and uchiha blood, he would be able to use all of his abilities.

some other questions...why did minato only seal 1/2 the kyuubi's chakra in naruto? and what is the jutsu he wanted him to complete??

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i agree with whoever said that tobi is probably madara in obito's body. the argument that obito's body was crushed just doesnt hold up in the naruto universe...weve seen heads cut off and put back on, a successful spinal surgery to remove countless shards of bone from the spinal cord, and countless more injuries that no one should be able to come back from. a crushed body doesnt mean that someone cant fix it up. also as proven by orochimaru, dead people can be brought back to life. but this requires 2 things: a body(obito) and soul(madara). this would also explain how madara/tobi has the sharingan and only in one eye. even with orochimaru's jutsu, the body would not be able to use madara's sharingan techniques since its a bloodline limit. however if madara's soul was put into obito's body who already had the sharingan and uchiha blood, he would be able to use all of his abilities.


I just went back to find the chapter where Madara says who he is, and the only thing that makes me think it could be Obito's body is that he does seem to have only one eye...the one opposite to the one Kaka-sensei has. Hmmmm. I had forgotten about that little detail and now your theory seems more likely. Otherwise, maybe it's the guy Itachi killed to gain the mangekyo..? Maybe he was even instructed on how to gain it by Madara as Stealth hypothesized.

There sure are more questions than answers.

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i agree with whoever said that tobi is probably madara in obito's body. the argument that obito's body was crushed just doesnt hold up in the naruto universe...weve seen heads cut off and put back on, a successful spinal surgery to remove countless shards of bone from the spinal cord, and countless more injuries that no one should be able to come back from. a crushed body doesnt mean that someone cant fix it up. also as proven by orochimaru, dead people can be brought back to life. but this requires 2 things: a body(obito) and soul(madara). this would also explain how madara/tobi has the sharingan and only in one eye. even with orochimaru's jutsu, the body would not be able to use madara's sharingan techniques since its a bloodline limit. however if madara's soul was put into obito's body who already had the sharingan and uchiha blood, he would be able to use all of his abilities.


And Sasuke cut through Tobi's right side. The crushed side. But he stood up at once. This could just be some justse or something, but to me it's a "Tobi Hint-Hint, Tobi Hint-Hint".

We know it ain't Tobi, but Madara. But all the signs go for Tobi's body. biggrin cool

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And Sasuke cut through Tobi's right side. The crushed side. But he stood up at once. This could just be some justse or something, but to me it's a "Tobi Hint-Hint, Tobi Hint-Hint".

We know it ain't Tobi, but Madara. But all the signs go for Tobi's body. biggrin cool

ding ding ding, that sounds like something dreadfully important
awsome catch gjoe

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And Sasuke cut through Tobi's right side. The crushed side. But he stood up at once. This could just be some justse or something, but to me it's a "Tobi Hint-Hint, Tobi Hint-Hint".

We know it ain't Tobi, but Madara. But all the signs go for Tobi's body. biggrin cool

ding ding ding, that sounds like something dreadfully important
awsome catch gjoe


Woopsy didn't spell that right. I ment: We know it ain't Tobi, but Madara. But all the signs go for OBITO's body. biggrin cool

Kinda confusing names yes biggrin

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Obito's body, I'll take. His soul, maybe not. Obito is too loyal to the leaf village to join the Akasuki, unless he has some underlying purpose too. I agree with this post:

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i agree with whoever said that tobi is probably madara in obito's body. the argument that obito's body was crushed just doesnt hold up in the naruto universe...weve seen heads cut off and put back on, a successful spinal surgery to remove countless shards of bone from the spinal cord, and countless more injuries that no one should be able to come back from. a crushed body doesnt mean that someone cant fix it up. also as proven by orochimaru, dead people can be brought back to life. but this requires 2 things: a body(obito) and soul(madara). this would also explain how madara/tobi has the sharingan and only in one eye. even with orochimaru's jutsu, the body would not be able to use madara's sharingan techniques since its a bloodline limit. however if madara's soul was put into obito's body who already had the sharingan and uchiha blood, he would be able to use all of his abilities.


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