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Post #477794 - Reply to (#477761) by Madam_Momo
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9:49 am, Jun 22 2011
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no A lot of people said vampire knight and I don't understand why. Vampire knight was the first manga I ever read and after reading tons of others it has remained my favorite. [spoiler] After Yuki becomes a pureblood the story does slow down but it picks up again when Kaname starts to look like a bad guy. I have to say that I strongly disagree with this opinion.


the problem for me is that the vampire knight started off as a love triangle with yuki, kaname, and zero but currently
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kaname is never around and yuki and zero are avoiding each other
its just lost a lot of its heat

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10:30 am, Jun 22 2011
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1. Bleach (everyone already commented)
2. D. Gray Man (It actually does depress me that this happened)
3. Air Gear (seriously, Obama?)

That is all I can think of right now

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10:38 am, Jun 22 2011
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Bleach - Kubo wanted to create a new manga but didn't have time to create new characters...

Naruto - Since the war began the manga is about Naruto being the strongest motherf***er ever.

One Piece - It's predictable in a way I don't like.

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xxxHoLic - When I read the so-called 'final chapter', I was like confused eek cry dead no mad
In that order.
I can't believe I read 19 whole volumes over two years just for that dumb, pathetic, lame excuse for an ending!!! I'm never picking up a CLAMP series again!

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I'd say Naruto, Bleach, Dr.Gray man and Air gear are the biggest drops imo. Naruto and Bleach just had alot of quality drop imo. The other two I think are getting harder and harder to follow the longer you read, specially Air Gear. I stopped reading the two later ones a while ago.

While I'm still looking forward to Bleach alot, I just read Naruto as something to pass time tbh.
A Bleach finish would have been great before the latest arc, I feel like it's lost a thread somewhere tbh, up to the latest arc it was all about saving Rukia and what followed to those events. If the author had just cleaned up some threads with Ichigos' dad the last arc it would have been a perfect place to finish it.

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Naruto (i don't even need to explain), Hunter x Hunter ( I drop it after greed island), Yakitake! Japan and Rosario + Vampire.

However I don't agree that One Piece already fallen from it's grace-state. Maybe it would sooner or later, but it still enjoyable at the moment.

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I'll just focus on One Piece. It's now very hard to read. It's like 90% of the pages is filled with text, it's way too much and I just don't care about all the nonsense anymore. Plus the flash backs are getting worse, especially the fishmen were horrible imo. Way too drawn out.

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mx0- amazing manga let down by the final 3 chapters

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Bleach, (dang, can't understand what's happening now.)
Vampire Knight, (dropped it after KanaYu became evident.)
Rosario + Vampire II (should have ended with the first one)
Naruto ( -sigh- )
Bloody Monday (from super genius to uber loser. tsk.)

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Have to agree with Yamato Nadeshiko Shichihenge.

Youth Gone Wild - YMMV. I think it's moved focus - the original heroine seems to have become little more than a side character which I personally find frustrating.
Goong - the plot has become so repetitive and frustrating that I've given up.
Faster than a Kiss - at first it was charming but has become very repetitive.

I hear a lot of people, me included, complain about the slow pace of Skip Beat! recently. I still love it though, it's just very frustrating. I've also heard people say bad things of the latest chapters of The Bride of the Water God, Kimi ni Todoke and Shiawase Kissa Sanchoume, saying they've become repetitive or they lack any character/plot development, but I haven't been keeping up with those so I can't really say.

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not really sure, b/c the mangas are kinda in limbo right now, but due to the direction their story telling has gone I hesitantly suggest:
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Air Gear
- Dropped it pretty early (*like 100 chapters or so). It seemed so stupid to me after a while. I initial idea was interesting, but it was just... too gaggy.

Bleach
- I want to drop it so bad, but I can't. I want to see it finished, but it just seems like nothing makes sense anymore. You beat the 'ultimate' bad guy and you're not supposed to be able to fight really ever again, but guess what, there's a total loop hole pulled out of Kubo's butt hole to be precise!!

Vampire Knight
-Dropped it after whatever it was started getting her memories back. It all seemed.... meh to me. I found it interesting, but I don't want to read it anymore. She was kind of weird anyway.

Hm, that's all I can think of at the moment.

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Forgot about Katekyo Hitman Reborn
-There's non stop fighting, non stop drama, non stop bad guys that were badder than the last. *sigh* And the art looks so blobby now. Not sure how to explain. It looks nice and everything, but sometimes it's too flashy. I hope the normal slice of life and paced plot movement comes back into play. At first it was too slow, and now it's too fast.

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Naruto became quite poor in terms of storytelling after the timeskip. It also opened up several annoying plotholes. Stopped reading a couple years ago.

Bleach, after the Soul Society ark, just became boring and repetitive. Story and character quickly took a back seat to cool action scenes, as they basically repeated the exact same story arc. One of those mangas that had a great premise, but just became lazy in its storytelling, not really going anywhere and opening up multitude of plotholes that the author seems to have no intention of filling. Stopped reading about the same time as Naruto.

Yu Yu Hakusho was fantastic almost all the way through, right up until they started bringing even minor characters back from the dead.
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A particularly bad example of this is when they brought back Game Master, which took all the weight out of one of the most emotionally powerful scenes in the manga. The final arc started very well, focusing on drama and character rather than fight scenes. The subtlety with which Yusuke was coming to terms with the fact that he is a demon outdoes pretty much any shounen manga in terms of the whole "demon inside me that i can't control" cliche'. But then, instead of finishing what he started with these characters, the author just ends it with a Dragon Ball-style martial arts tournament. What a shame for such a great manga.


I'm gonna get lynched for this, but much of the second half of Fullmetal Alchemist had me underwhelmed. By the end they were more focused on the action and political struggles than on the Elric brothers, who are the heart of the story. I think the anime handled the brothers' story far better than the manga. It had so much more heart and emotion, even if it did occasionally devolve into melodrama.

Ruroni Kenshin. The final arc wasn't bad or anything, but it was certainly underwhelming when compared to the greatness that came before.
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I think they should have shown us the final arc earlier and saved Shishio for the manga's finale. Such a fantastic villain. Enishi doesn't even compare.



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11:41 pm, Jul 21 2011
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Tenjou Tenge
-Author tendencies

Air Gear
-really, Obama?

Bleach
-Recycled arcs. Hell yes!

Vampire Knight
-It got out of hand. Really, the focus is completely different now.

D. Gray Man
-It was okay then it got too crazy.

Alive
-It was okay and then it was absurd

Prince of Tennis
-People do not ****ing run at mach speed and create clones because of the mirage it leaves.

I can't believe no one's mentioned this:
HUNTER X HUNTER
(why....just....whhhyyyyyyyy)

There are a lot of shounen manga that I feel spiral down into abyssal destruction because of the pattern they follow. (Enemy, stronger enemy, even stronger enemy). A lot of series end up going into absurd apocalyptic scenarios.


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Vampire Knight.
I loved it the first few volumes. Then it got boring. The confusing storyline aside, it just got really, really boring. I tried sticking to it, but waiting a month just for a chapter that wasn't interesting and I couldn't understand didn't seem worth it anymore. *sigh* And it was pretty good in the beginning too.

Katekyo Hitman Reborn!
I'm still reading it, but I do get the feeling that Reborn is getting frustrating. It's so obviously cliched now. Enemy appears, fight, bigger bad guy, victory through the power of friendship. That's Reborn in a nutshell. And the author has a habit of introducing a giant load of new characters every new arc. I mean, these characters are unique, but they aren't as interesting as the original cast, and I don't understand why the author would rather spend introducing new characters that will barely appear after a few volumes, rather than developing the main characters... I guess the author doesn't have any ides on how to develop the existing cast...?

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