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2:42 pm, Jul 23 2011
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Same as most people with Air Gear. Also Code:Breaker and Gamble Fish I found they just got boring. Also I think One Piece is starting to go the same way, like bleach and D.Gray-man were but I find they're both pulling it back with the latest arc.

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KHR, Naruto, Bleach, Vampire Knight, Air Gear, people have already commented on them.

I feel that the worse offender is KHR or Air Gear.

It fell from grace, HARD. The recent arc has made me cringe so many times because of its corniness. And all these new characters? Expy's of the old ones with slight changes. I'm also pissed that despite having a female mangaka, there aren't many badass females in KHR...Lal Mirch and Bianchi are now just minor characters...

Stopped reading Bleach & Naruto. I'll tune in for Naruto's ending. The Great War or whatever sounded cool, but I found it hard to care.

Air Gear...it got...all...supernatural, and now Obama is in the body of a high school girl or something? Just...weird...

D. Gray-Man got boring for a while, but after Alma and Kanda's death, I think it's getting better.

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Naruto, Bleach, Vampire Knight, Air Gear. Same here. I could care less about Naruto after watching 3300 anime episodes and watching it go downhill. unless naruto ends up with sakura. then MAYBE ill read the ending. As for Bleach, i got confused about a mini arc(thinking the managaka had suddenly changed the whole plot) at like episode 67 and dropped it. im sort of glad. I HATE the really popular series like naruto, i use to love them, they had potential but now theyre just neverending BS. Its sad, they could have been a well rounded story had they ever ended appropriately. its not like mangakas cant make sequels for godsake!

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It's hilarious how everybody keeps saying the same mangas over and over again. Partially I think it's because these are some of the most popular mangas and everybody's read them so their names are bound to come up, but partially I think it's also because, yeah, some of these titles really are noticeably worse than they used to be. bigrazz My two cents:

Naruto - I wouldn't quite say Naruto has fallen from grace, more like it's had a very slow decline. It's not as good as it used to be, but it's not yet gotten to the point where it's 100% bad. (LOL. Maybe give it a few more years.) You can point to the timeskip as being the start of the the manga's fall, depending on what you think went wrong in this series. (For me, it's that the manga no longer has cohesive story arcs, just one event piled on top of another. Unless you consider "bringing Sasuke back" as the story arc for the past 6-7 years.)

Air Gear - Never thought this was good to begin with, so I can't say it was ever in a position of grace it could fall from.

Bleach - Yeah, this is a fall from grace. The whole series changed after Aizen. Major plummet.

Reborn - I like to pretend that this series died so I can remember when I enjoyed it fondly. The manga shifted in tone too much. It went from a gag manga (which I liked), to a somewhat intelligent gag/fighter manga (which I still liked), to an everything but the kitchen sink, fanservice heavy, nonstop fighter manga (which I did not like). The Varia arc was the last decent storyline, now the manga doesn't even resemble its old self anymore. It's thrown the mafia thing out the window in favor of time travel, pokemon, millions of new characters, and increasingly overpowered bad guys.

Vampire Knight - Another manga like Naruto, Bleach, and Reborn where you can point to a specific storyline that ruined everything. In this case, it was Yuuki getting her memories back and turning into a vampire. That didn't in and of itself have to be a bad thing, but the mangaka followed it up with 2 years' worth of Yuuki being locked up in Kaname's house and moping. You simply can't take your main character out of the action for that long and expect people to be entertained by it.

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Bleach went down fast near the end of the last arc. Still shows no signs of recovery.

Vinland Saga went from a thrilling insane badass viking slaughter manga to farmville in 1 chapter. Even though it isn't bad it's completely different from what made the manga good since the beginning. It is starting to show signs of recovery, still have hope because it used to be awesome.

Reborn! was very good till the end of the future arc. This last arc was pathetic. Just started the new arc and seems to be heading towards a brighter future as well.

D. Gray-Man was one of the biggest declines in quality I've ever seen. It used to be one of my favorites but after it turned monthly it became horrible, absolutely horrible. To make my point more evident, Rating (while it was weekly): 9/10. Rating (only monthly chapters): 3/10. Doesn't show signs of improvement.

Yureka also fell big time in my opinion. The shift in the story was so intense that it looked like it was a completely different manga so I dropped it. Can't say if it is just a phase or not since I dropped it at around chapter 110.

Ao no Exorcist also went through a low point. It looks like things are getting better though.

I'm not sure if it should count since it technically is the sequel but The Breaker falls a lot in quality in New Waves. It show some promise but I still can't say. Even if it gets better it has already made many mistakes the original didn't.

Gantz has completely lost it. Ever since the beginning of the arc where they are taken to Rome it has been very very bad. Which is sad because it used to be very good. It doesn't show any sign of recovery.

Gamaran had a bit of a drop, it wasn't very intense but it still dropped. Lately the fights haven't been very intense like they used to and somehow the pace has been slowed down a lot, you can really notice that they want to drag out the manga.

There are probably more but these are the ones that bothered me the most.




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Out of Grace:
Bleach: I am reading out of sheer habit now....fullbring, really confused ? I have no hope anymore...

Air Gear: Stopped way before Obama

D. Gray Man: no comment lol

Bakuman: Genius after genius after genius....I can't take it anymore

On the Rise:
Naruto: I was feeling much the same way about Bleach and Naruto but the latter has taken a turn for the better

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I really don't see a problem with Reborn, yeah it had a few rough spots but not to the point of falling anywhere near how far the above mentioned have fallen at some point. (though it is very cliched)

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Bleach: Kubo Tite can't summarise. Some of the glaring issues from Zombie Powder were repeated here. To be honest, I wouldn't mind if they weren't central and pivotal to the plot development. But they were and the editors at the magazine aren't going to do anything about it. After all, it helps to milk in far more money that way.

Let's see... what else?

Hunter x hunter... seriously. It just kept going on and on. I don't think they even had an ending in mind. Now I'm hoping Tower of God stays strong and doesn't follow all that never-ending shounen/seinen. sad I can't remember how many I've dropped, out of total disappointment. I also hope Berserk recovers soon and I'm very ambivalent about Claymore.

Vampire Knight: the writing just got worse and worse. It's a prime example of titles developed just for the sake of milking in as much money as possible, where the writing really starts to crumble after a while. They build and build and build but there's no foundation and everything eventually tilts over. That's also why I never picked up Savage Garden.

Until death do us apart: Ehhh. I kinda gave up on the writing a while ago. These days, I just check in once to twice every year.

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If you started reading Air Gear for plot you are an idiot, plain and simple. It's known fact that the longer an Oh Great series goes the worse the story gets.It happened in ten ten, and it even happened in his hentai. Luckily most of his hwork was only about 3 to 4 chapters long so you can't really tell. Still the prettiest art in all the land though.

Initial D - Some chapters, especially in the last several years have had almost zero dialogue, and the ones that did were about nonsense driving techniques that have no basis in reality.

Bleach - just like everyone else thinks it blows hard now. Except I think it was that way since way back after they rescued Rukia. It should have ended there and yet it continued, and poorly at that.

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Bleach- fell hard IMO on the fullbring arc but now things are looking up with the shinigami powers back.

Naruto- I cant really say its fallen but i think every1 has just become so accustomed to it that it lost alot of its uniqueness it had in earlier chapters. It is refreshing to know Itachi's true plan for Sasuke though smile

Nononono- fell IMO when the whole attempted rape or w/e happened.



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I'm really surprised that nobody said anything about The One...I mean really, it was so good in the begining, it had everything, from good characters to interesting plot, and now I can't even believe it's the same manhwa. It just got way too dramatic in a cheap-soap-opera sort of way, and now it's not even about the main character anymore...I'm only still reading it beacuse I really loved the first half and I'm hoping the author will return to that...

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I agree about THE ONE... and
Bleach- is the only manga, I've ever dropped. I feel like it should have ended after the first arc.... so like 4-5 years ago.
Detective Conan. I've stopped reading that around chapter 500. but i want to finish it.
I'm really surprised no one has said Hajime No IPPO. not because I hate it... I love it but with almost 1000 chapters; i figured some people would have dropped it in this topic.

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6:04 am, Aug 5 2011
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Er, well as many have said

Bleach I read it so I know how it ends, I found parts of the fullbring arc interesting, however this series high point was the SS arc climax.

Black Butler I enjoyed this series alot, until one chapter made me completely dispise it.
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The Chapter Where Ciel lives chidlren who where being used and abuse to burn alive, simply becuase he didn't want to remember what he'd been through before he made the deal with Sebastian


I do find it strange that someone said One Piece had fallen from grace with all its fillers. In my opinion, One Piece is an adventure story, its all about the Journey, not the destination after all it is referred to as a Romantic Adventure manga. [Romantic as in the older meaning imbued with or dominated by idealism, a desire for adventure, chivalry.]

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6:29 am, Aug 5 2011
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One Piece.
I don't see this manga surprising me with a great plot anymore. It focus only in battles and in overpowered enemies. The best arcs were the backgrounds of the crew, because all of the stories were amazing. But now, this arc is so lame that the only good thing will be the fights...

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Bleach, obviously. The battle between Aizen's army and the Soul Society was too drawn out and fullbring arc is full retard.

Berserk, like 10 years ago laugh Seriously, how long will that series last? I'll lose interest in manga or the mangaka will die before it's finished, most likely.

Gantz is becoming drawn out and it seems like 10 chapters have to be read to get anywhere. Maybe if they had longer chapters. Or if they didn't write the same thing 5 times over 3 pages... God knows we all want to see thing progress 5 feet at a time... I mean, one guy goes around crying and hemorrhaging alien brains with psychic powers and hasn't done much else for about a year. If he wasn't going to become a bad guy later on (which he most likely will), I'd say kill him off dead

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I'm really surprised that nobody said anything about The One...I mean really, it was so good in the begining, it had everything, from good characters to interesting plot, and now I can't even believe it's the same manhwa. It just got way too dramatic in a cheap-soap-opera sort of way, and now it's not even about the main character anymore...I'm only still reading it beacuse I really loved the first half and I'm hoping the author will return to that...


To be honest, I dropped that title a long time ago. The problem with quite a few shoujo titles is that they tend to be really dragged out and the publishers will try to milk as much money as they can. From what I know, only certain manga titles sell really well while the others range from somewhat profitable to average to complete duds. Manga's a business and industry after all.

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