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melon-ramune-freak
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Forgive me if I'm saying something stupid... But I noticed a lot of similarities between Leaf and Olimpos. Here's a few:

http://reader.sugooi.org/?m=Leaf&c=1&p=3
http://www.mangareader.net/1325-44209-8/olimpos/chapter-1.htm l

http://www.mangareader.net/1325-44210-28/olimpos/chapter-2.ht ml
http://reader.sugooi.org/?m=Leaf&c=1&p=6

http://www.mangareader.net/1325-44210-38/olimpos/chapter-2.ht ml
http://reader.sugooi.org/?m=Leaf&c=1&p=7

http://www.mangareader.net/1325-44210-8/olimpos/chapter-2.htm l
http://reader.sugooi.org/?m=Leaf&c=2&p=5

It's only mostly for the first few chapters of Leaf and Olimpos...

Please tell me I'm wrong; I really like both Olimpos and Leaf...  no

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Hmm.... something smells fishy here...

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Hmm.... something smells fishy here...


Ikr... D: I hope this is a coincidence orz

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Quote from melon-ramune-freak
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Hmm.... something smells fishy here...


Ikr... D: I hope this is a coincidence orz

But actually, stuff like this has already happened...
Ex: Nick Simmons' Incarnate

I won't be surprised when it turns out that the Leaf author did the same thing with Olimpos. :/

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I'll go read Olimpos. smile

It appears some of the Leaf's drawing are similar to that of Olimpos. I don't know whether author used it as a base example, or strictly took it similar to Bleach and Reincarnate (or whatever). I have released 3-5 so feel free to compare. smile

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Just from a quick glance they seem to be direct traces with a few changes. So i decided to make some overlay images to compare.

From the second pair from above:
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The blue lines are from Leaf.
and the third pair:
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The left is from Leaf, right from Olimpos.
I didn't bother with the rest in the first post, but the similarities seem to be more than coincidental.


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I agree. Managed to look into the next chapters to see if any tracing occurred?

melon-ramune-freak
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Quote from waftingwish
Just from a quick glance they seem to be direct traces with a few changes. So i decided to make some overlay images to compare.

From the second pair from above:
User Posted Image
The blue lines are from Leaf.
and the third pair:
User Posted Image User Posted Image
The left is from Leaf, right from Olimpos.
I didn't bother with the rest in the first post, but the similarities seem to be more than coincidental.


Okay thank you! Those scenes were more close to each other than I thought eek There's actuallly a few more in the rest of the first chapter, but I didn't have enough time to sort all of them out. D:

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I agree. Managed to look into the next chapters to see if any tracing occurred?


Edit: There's actually some scenes in chp 2 that are very similar to Olimpos

Like this:
http://www.mangareader.net/1325-44211-26/olimpos/chapter-3.h tml
http://reader.sugooi.org/?m=Leaf&c=2&p=10

I thought it wasn't very obvious so I didn't put it in the first post ^^' But if you notice their [their right] hand positions and the expressions, especially where the iris of their eyes are placed, it's pretty similar.

I looked into the rest of the chapters that are released, but I couldn't find anything else blatantly similar to Olimpos. I'm not sure if the artist traced any other manga though. no

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Okay so uhm... I went to the leaf's website and dug out some of the raws. Here's one more:

http://www.u17.com/comic_show/c18266_m0_i154051.html
http://www.mangareader.net/1325-44211-5/olimpos/chapter-3.htm l

Considering the structure and bg of that, they're pretty close.



There's also these I missed:

http://reader.sugooi.org/?m=Leaf&c=2&p=4
http://www.mangareader.net/1325-44211-14/olimpos/chapter-3.ht ml

http://reader.sugooi.org/?m=Leaf&c=2&p=7
http://www.mangareader.net/1325-44211-17/olimpos/chapter-3.ht ml

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Hoooly crap... this is really beginning to get out of hand. I want a background check on Leaf's author!

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Hoooly crap... this is really beginning to get out of hand. I want a background check on Leaf's author!


Here's AoliQi [I think that's how you pinyin her name] profile
http://www.u17.com/member/48119.html

There isn't much about her there, but she does seem pretty popular sad

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So apparently the author says it's coincidental:
:本人在这里申明 本漫画开头我是 借鉴奥林巴斯, 至于求婚大作战 与本故事故事开 头剧情类同纯属 巧合。 以及本漫画纯属 个人业余创作, 只是用与与广大 漫画喜好者交流 之用,不会用于 商业途径..."


Here's how Chrome translates it:
"I declare here I am drawing the comic at the beginning of Olympus, as great propose begins with the story plot similar story is purely coincidental. And purely personal amateur comic creation, just like with the comic and to share with the general purposes, not for commercial way ..."

That's not a clear translation, so I got my mom to translate for me since I don't know enough Chinese to read all that. Pretty much AoliQi says she did trace Olimpos for the beginning of Leaf, but anything beyond the marriage part is entirely coincidental. She also said that Leaf was made purely for entertainment and public sharing purposes, not commercial.

Okay so I think that's a pretty legit answer...?

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I think that as long as no one is purchasing her work, then it's fine... but I still don't accept that she traced, period. Where's the originality? If the work posted on her website is really hers, why was it necessary for her to trace (it seems like the posted sketches were nice enough)? How do we know that other pages in Leaf are not traces of other works? :/

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I think that as long as no one is purchasing her work, then it's fine... but I still don't accept that she traced, period. Where's the originality? If the work posted on her website is really hers, why was it necessary for her to trace (it seems like the posted sketches were nice enough)? How do we know that other pages in Leaf are not traces of other works? :/



I do agree with you statement; I'll look into this. If AoliQi got permission from Aki to trace her works, then I think it'll be okay. If not, I might have to email Aki or Leaf's manga (manhua) hoster about this. D:

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Definite tracing there. But I think as long as she isn't benefiting financially there's nothing really illegal about it, right? People just won't think too highly of her is all.

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