manga04_jpg login_tab_left_jpg
Username:   Password:    Forgot Password?
App
Try out our new iPhone application!
App
Manga Poll
Do you think loli / shota should be illegal or banned?
Yes / Yes
Yes / No
No / Yes
No / No
Don't care
 
See Old Polls

Manga is the Japanese equivalent of comics
with a unique style and following. Join the revolution! Read some manga today!

Coded in ConTEXT

Join #baka-updates @irc.irchighway.net

RSS Feed
 
center_left_tab Forums center_right_tab

You are now viewing a topic.

why do people dislike eba

Back to Kimi no Iru Machi


Pages (3) [ 1 2 3 ] Next You must be registered to post!
From User Message Body
yongzhi93
Post #505848 - Reply to (#472833) by Scyfon
user avatar
Member

5:13 pm, Nov 6 2011
Posts: 59


Quote from Scyfon
She's probably one of the worst, if not the worst, heroines I've come across.
All you Eba fanboys are naive and too forgiving. There should be no redemption for what she's done.


I don't understand what crime she's committed other than the ultimate crime of the shoujo-fandom: dump your boyfriend who's devoted to you. Like we haven't seen that one before (parents' objection, moving house, guilt, your homo best friend suddenly needed you... you name it.)

I mean I can understand why no one's going to say she's a saint. (I could make a case for it, but I won't.) Even though she dumped Haruto not out of selfishness or because she wanted to cheat, but because a dying friend made something like a final request. Even though she decided not to get back together with Haruto because that would completely invalidate all the time she's spent with Kazuma, plus insult his memory. Even though she kept away from Haruto when she knew he had a girlfriend.

Yes, she confessed in the end. Who wouldn't? I dare you to say that in Eba's shoes you'd just suck it up forever and regret till 50. Half the fans were waiting for this day, anyway. Certainly sucks to be Asuka, but you can't say we didn't see this coming, what with all the hot-date set-ups we've had. Sorry, but ending it early's better than ending it late, and ending it late's better than divorce. Honestly, if you've seen how children fare after parents divorce, you'd be thinking to yourself: why can't they just choose life partners they can live with and be loyal to? So, sorry Asuka, but that's life.

I guess a fair criticism is that the whole Eba-hiatus was rather melodramatic and drawn-out. The author certainly would've pandered to many more fans had he just, y'know, zip four months passed by and Haruto stayed sad and single and oops-a-daisy Eba dropped by the amusement park too! and woah turns out they're soulmates after all. But what's popular's not necessarily what's best, and I for one am willing to stomach the melodrama since we did get some valuable character development and elements of realism. What say you?

________________
ABOUT ME
1. 10,000 chapters and counting. (...Otaku alert!)
2. I love Comedy/Romance/School Life (as you probably can tell!), especially when they're all together.
3. I welcome spiffy debate but I don't do quarreling (or forum trolling).
Scyfon
Post #505861 - Reply to (#505848) by yongzhi93
user avatar
Mome Basher
Member

6:47 pm, Nov 6 2011
Posts: 3380


Quote from yongzhi93
Quote from Scyfon
She's probably one of the worst, if not the worst, heroines I've come across.
All you Eba fanboys are naive and too forgiving. There should be no redemption for what she's done.


blahblahblah

I rest my case.

________________
User Posted Image
Everyday I'm tumblin'
Alexyz0
Post #505863 - Reply to (#472833) by Scyfon
user avatar
Ginga Bishounen
Member

6:57 pm, Nov 6 2011
Posts: 380


Quote from Scyfon
Quote from alexdhamp
You mean how she stole Haruto from Nanami? Is that what you mean? Then once she had his attention, backed off and got overly friendly with Nanami's older brother..and decided to move back to Tokyo and accept Haruto's confession(instead of leaving him alone and letting him move on)...then finally left him for another guy because she felt she just owed him.

Yeah..there's no reason we anti-eba hate her...none at all. /sarcasm Hell, the above is only the start of why we hate her..her actions after/during the Tokyo arc only perpetuate that hate. none

Pretty much this. She's probably one of the worst, if not the worst, heroines I've come across.
All you Eba fanboys are naive and too forgiving. There should be no redemption for what she's done.

Same...

________________
User Posted Image
Quote from Akamatsu Ken
True magic Results From Courage Of The Heart
Boys And Girls Be Ambitious
One Step Can Change The World
awesomeguy2731
Post #506556 - Reply to (#505848) by yongzhi93
user avatar
fun time
Member

11:35 am, Nov 10 2011
Posts: 38


Quote from yongzhi93
Quote from Scyfon
She's probably one of the worst, if not the worst, heroines I've come across.
All you Eba fanboys are naive and too forgiving. There should be no redemption for what she's done.


I don't understand what crime she's committed other than the ultimate crime of the shoujo-fandom: dump your boyfriend who's devoted to you. Like we haven't seen that one before (parents' objection, moving house, guilt, your homo best friend suddenly needed you... you name it.)

I mean I can understand why no one's going to say she's a saint. (I could make a case for it, but I won't.) Even though she dumped Haruto not out of selfishness or because she wanted to cheat, but because a dying friend made something like a final request. Even though she decided not to get back together with Haruto because that would completely invalidate all the time she's spent with Kazuma, plus insult his memory. Even though she kept away from Haruto when she knew he had a girlfriend.

Yes, she confessed in the end. Who wouldn't? I dare you to say that in Eba's shoes you'd just suck it up forever and regret till 50. Half the fans were waiting for this day, anyway. Certainly sucks to be Asuka, but you can't say we didn't see this coming, what with all the hot-date set-ups we've had. Sorry, but ending it early's better than ending it late, and ending it late's better than divorce. Honestly, if you've seen how children fare after parents divorce, you'd be thinking to yourself: why can't they just choose life partners they can live with and be loyal to? So, sorry Asuka, but that's life.

I guess a fair criticism is that the whole Eba-hiatus was rather melodramatic and drawn-out. The author certainly would've pandered to many more fans had he just, y'know, zip four months passed by and Haruto stayed sad and single and oops-a-daisy Eba dropped by the amusement park too! and woah turns out they're soulmates after all. But what's popular's not necessarily what's best, and I for one am willing to stomach the melodrama since we did get some valuable character development and elements of realism. What say you?


You know, I really agree with what this guy is saying. Eba isn't the the worst heroine of all time (have we forgotten about Bella from Twilight?), but I would admit that Eba made some really stupid decisions. However, if you were told by a person, that always had a crush on you and was going to die, that he/she wanted to spend the last few moments of his/her life with you, wouldn't you say okay? I think people are getting too serious about that issue and have to calm down and try to think what a teenage girl who is placed in a situation like that would probably do. She doesn't necessarily betray Haruto as I have heard constantly, but she decides to go out with Kazama more out of a guilt that if she denied his request, she would have to live with the guilt that she made a dying man's last few moments lonely and miserable. And I know there are probably dozens of other ways that she could have dealt with this problem, but I guess at the time that was probably the best option to her.

I will admit the whole arc itself was really pointless and was just made to extend the story and make it last longer, but I think that some people are just blowing this out of proportion and needs to calm down. Trust me, it could be way worse. If you really want to hear my opinion, I think the current arc should have been the direction that it should have gone
Spoiler (mouse over to view)
with Eba's parents discovering their relationship and trying to break it up.


Also, with the whole Asuka thing, I really hate the fact that everyone is so pissed off about it. I want you to keep in mind, he never admitted he didn't love her anymore. He just went through a rough break up, and it just so happened that Asuka was there to comfort him and willing to love him and that is what he wanted to fill that void Eba left. However, in the back of his mind that in order to fill that void, he would want Eba back. Even though what he did was kinda jerkish, especially to Asuka, I don't blame him, mostly because I know guys that have went same situation. After they had a messy break up with a girl that they were really committed to, they get a new girl that is similar to the old girl or is very supportive of them. However, it usually ends up with a break up or a divorce because the relationship wasn't necessarily made out of love, it was made more out of necessity and the need to fill a void.

So that's my thoughts on this ordeal and I hope a lot of you guys stop hating and just try find the brighter side of the situation.

________________
it is time for SUPER AWESOME TIMES!! WOOT!
Spearsmen620
Post #506703
user avatar
Member

3:41 am, Nov 11 2011
Posts: 357


Eba <3
Eba is DEFINITELY NOT the worst heroine, if she really is, then you need to read more manga! Tessa and Kaname from FMA Sigma were pretty bad, and they still are loved by many. I personally think that Kaname and Tessa are straight up bitches LOL! And Eba isn't even that bitchy... Maybe it's because I was reading it lightly and was probably not going too deeply.
You Eba-haters say that it's stealing when Haruto got back with Eba, but Haruto loves Eba and Eba loves Haruto, simple as THAT! You have to stand up for who you love!
It's all fair in love and war.


________________
I use Batoto, an online reader that hosts scanlator ads with their scanlations!
mzaganas
Post #507027
user avatar
Member

12:20 am, Nov 13 2011
Posts: 16


i think eba is kinda stupid yet still funny and cute.

________________
Fav. Quote: Mess With The Best Die Like The Rest! - Hackers
Dishwalla
Post #564374
Member

2:33 am, Aug 5 2012
Posts: 1


But you cannot just think of the one you love, what about the people near you ofc they are also going to get hurt.... Thats another thing i hate about haruto, he wouldhave been okay if he had move on but he still went after eba

Scyfon
Post #564396 - Reply to (#506556) by awesomeguy2731
user avatar
Mome Basher
Member

7:02 am, Aug 5 2012
Posts: 3380


Quote from awesomeguy2731
However, if you were told by a person, that always had a crush on you and was going to die, that he/she wanted to spend the last few moments of his/her life with you, wouldn't you say okay?

No. WTF? Not in a sense that I'd pretend to go out with them. What am I, a moron?
Quote
I think people are getting too serious about that issue and have to calm down and try to think what a teenage girl who is placed in a situation like that would probably do. She doesn't necessarily betray Haruto as I have heard constantly, but she decides to go out with Kazama more out of a guilt that if she denied his request, she would have to live with the guilt that she made a dying man's last few moments lonely and miserable. And I know there are probably dozens of other ways that she could have dealt with this problem, but I guess at the time that was probably the best option to her.

I think it is more respectable and logical to be truthful about it. Not go out with a guy OUT OF PITY - and keep it a secret from her real boyfriend. At least tell him about the situation! Not just suddenly run off and go AWOL - and then expect him to still like you...FUUU!!
To live with the guilt that she didn't PRETEND to go out with a guy just because he was dying? Really? If she had made that choice and felt guilty about it years later WHILE BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP...damn, what a slut.
The dude was dying for goodness sake. The least you could do is show him a bit of respect.

Quote
So that's my thoughts on this ordeal and I hope a lot of you guys stop hating and just try find the brighter side of the situation.

There really isn't any. You're just to turning a blind eye to the inconvenient truth.

Quote from Spearsmen620
Eba <3
Eba is DEFINITELY NOT the worst heroine, if she really is, then you need to read more manga!

I was exaggerating. If anything, the worst heroine I've ever come across would be Ku Shiratori from Kyoushirou to Towa no Sora

Quote
Tessa and Kaname from FMA Sigma were pretty bad, and they still are loved by many. I personally think that Kaname and Tessa are straight up bitches LOL!

No....
Just...
NO ಠ_ಠ



Last edited by Scyfon at 7:48 pm, Aug 5

________________
User Posted Image
Everyday I'm tumblin'
Gynok
Post #564425
user avatar
Member

10:40 am, Aug 5 2012
Posts: 38


I'm beginning to dislike her due to the most recent chapters (192 and now 193)...

she's acting unstable, to say the least...

jeffreymgibson
Post #564530
user avatar
Member

11:52 pm, Aug 5 2012
Posts: 70


Yep, I think the latest 2 chapters are a example.
Spoiler (mouse over to view)
I mean, yeah she should be a little pissed that her boyfriend forgot but he quickly remembered. He's done a lot to be with Eba. In the latest 2 chapter's she's just going too far and it makes you wonder if she really does love him. If Eba really doesn't want to be with him, she at least owes him a conversation,


Eba is the perfect example of a character that just does crazy ass things out of the blue with no explanation just to move the plot of the manga and create some drama. The managa-ka is not a talented enough writer to come up with real world believable problems so he just makes Eba do crazy and irrational stuff in order to provide some drama. Suzuka was the same way,

Also the way he acted about sex is just totally unbelievable. Hell, that's when Eba should of gotten mad.

I just want it to end a be over with so I can forget about it, Yeah I know I could stop reading it, but it's like that train wreck I just cant look away from.

I do know one thing... for his next work, if I read it at all, it will be after it's completed,

Jeffrey



________________
Jeffrey
icethegreat
Post #564536
Member

12:12 am, Aug 6 2012
Posts: 128


Eba was unreasonable this chapter

jeffreymgibson
Post #564647
user avatar
Member

4:13 pm, Aug 6 2012
Posts: 70


I know if my girlfriend just disappeared on me without telling me anything, I would be crushed. That's not love. If you really loved someone, you wouldn't want to make them crazy with worry like that. If my girlfriend pulled a stunt like this twice, no matter how painful it would be, I would have to let her go. If i stayed with her after the 2nd time, i would be in a constant state of fear that it would happen again. I'd be afraid to talk.

He really should cut his loses... He may hurt for a year, but he would be better off later. If a real person acted like Eba I would think she were Bi-Poler or has some other chemical imbalance. If she does haveon of those disorders, then her character makes no sense.

Jeffrey



________________
Jeffrey
Scyfon
Post #564687 - Reply to (#564530) by jeffreymgibson
user avatar
Mome Basher
Member

1:01 am, Aug 7 2012
Posts: 3380


Quote from jeffreymgibson
I just want it to end a be over with so I can forget about it, Yeah I know I could stop reading it, but it's like that train wreck I just cant look away from.

Ditto!

Now, after all those light hearted "honeymoon phase" chapters, the bitch rears her ugly side once again. Really, how can people actually like her?

________________
User Posted Image
Everyday I'm tumblin'
benjor1
Post #596679
user avatar
Member

4:54 pm, Apr 27 2013
Posts: 38


You see, this is why I don't read this manga. I saw it coming since the first 20 chapters or so. And you are probably wondering how exactly I saw this coming, and the answer is I didn't. I just forgot to read the manga and now I am trying to act like I knew this would happen huehuehue. cool

________________
User Posted Image
Nuff said.
xxarrancarrxx
Post #601874
user avatar
I'm BATMAN
Member

2:41 pm, Jun 3 2013
Posts: 91


I don't dislike eba too much even though she was stupid enough to leave haruto, but anyone who was put into a position like what eba just experienceed would have made the same descision out of guilt

________________
User Posted Image

I LOVE REC the sig is made by me see more of my works @ http://obedoropeza.deviantart.com/
Pages (3) [ 1 2 3 ] Next You must be registered to post!

Back to Kimi no Iru Machi  Back to Top

Search This Topic:
 
Manga Search
MANGA Fu
MEMBERS
TEAM-BU


footer