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Girls don't play videogames..
If girls play video games, they aren't really good..
Girls don't play fighting games..
In a RPG, girls usually play the healer characters..
Girls don't play MMORPGS..
If a girl challenges me, I assume that I'm going to win..
Guys are better at games than girls..
Girls need more help with games than guys..
In a MMORPG, you assume that a female character is actually a guy..
I'm a girl and experienced some stereotypical response when playing..
I don't care whether it's a girl or guy playing a game..
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i think the reason why female gamers tend to play Healers or characters that rather create something/or don't use so much destruction and more coercsion lies deeply in our nature.

men where the hunters. we destroy things by nature. back then it was to survive. today its just to pass time.

women are more prone towards creation since they get babies. tend to them. raise them. they create rather than destory.

the same kinda goes for mathematics/physics and such. while men trew spears at animals having to predict the wind, the animal movements and the angle, women stayed at home.

it's all an evolutionary remnant.

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Have you ever been to http://fatuglyorslutty.com/? Pretty much has what some tough 'male gamers' think about female gamers... I'm a female gamer myself and I always make an effort to stay out from online games because of these kinds of things.

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i think the reason why female gamers tend to play Healers or characters that rather create something/or don't use so much destruction and more coercsion lies deeply in our nature.

men where the hunters. we destroy things by nature. back then it was to survive. today its just to pass time.

women are more prone towards creation since they get babies. tend to them. raise them. they create rather than destory.

the same kinda goes for mathematics/physics and such. while men trew spears at animals having to predict the wind, the animal movements and the angle, women stayed at home.

it's all an evolutionary remnant.

errrr...no. I don't think so. I'm a girl and always play a swordsman/woman. Although healers are a necessary part of RPGs (I'm the type to stupidly rush in at the enemy waving my weapon like the madwoman I am, so I need healers to stop me from dying). Aside from RPGs I also play shooters and have a love/hate thing going on with horror games. Most of the girls I'm friends with are the same, and no one I've met has ever played a healer for more than about 5 min--like someone said earlier, it really is boring. I don't think you should generalize every woman (and man) in the world like that, because we ARE different people with different interests.

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i think the reason why female gamers tend to play Healers or characters that rather create something/or don't use so much destruction and more coercsion lies deeply in our nature.

men where the hunters. we destroy things by nature. back then it was to survive. today its just to pass time.

women are more prone towards creation since they get babies. tend to them. raise them. they create rather than destory.

the same kinda goes for mathematics/physics and such. while men trew spears at animals having to predict the wind, the animal movements and the angle, women stayed at home.

it's all an evolutionary remnant.

errrr...no. I don't think so. I'm a girl and always play a swordsman/woman. Although healers are a necessary part of RPGs (I'm the type to stupidly rush in at the enemy waving my weapon like the madwoman I am, so I need healers to stop me from dying). Aside from RPGs I also play shooters and have a love/hate thing going on with horror games. Most of the girls I'm friends with are the same, and no one I've met has ever played a healer for more than about 5 min--like someone said earlier, it really is boring. I don't think you should generalize every woman (and man) in the world like that, because we ARE different people with different interests.



there are exceptions of course. like girly boys and tomboy girls. not everyone is the same. stereotypes have nothing but statistic value but cannot say anything about an individual.

and regardless, lets not forget the fact that most girls dont even play computergames. at all.

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and regardless, lets not forget the fact that most girls dont even play computergames. at all.


My dear, you have just spouted a stereotype. Plenty of girls play computer games. They're just not very public about what they play.

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[quote=Fareki]
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and regardless, lets not forget the fact that most girls dont even play computergames. at all.


Edit: Saying this here so this stupid post doesn't get revived. You said the exceptions are tomboys and girly boys, so I just replied to that. So then, no normal girl likes gaming and no normal boy doesn't? Is that what you're saying? Cheers

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and regardless, lets not forget the fact that most girls dont even play computergames. at all.


My dear, you have just spouted a stereotype. Plenty of girls play computer games. They're just not very public about what they play.

agreed. Stereotypes are ideas based on a time long past and, like it or not, this IS the 21st century. A girl can like clothes-shopping and killing aliens equally, and if you say that all girls who play games are tomboys and boys who don't are girly, then you're saying that no "normal" girl likes gaming and all boys who dislike gaming are now, essentially, girls. You aren't a girl, and also aren't a boy who doesn't game, so how would you know, you complete and utter fool? Think before you speak in real life, at least, or you'll make some enemies.


While I agree that it is quite likely a stereotype, it being worded in such a way as to lead it very easily down that road, I know of no relevant data that can either confirm or deny such a statement. If you could provide a statistical analysis showing that most gamer girls do indeed play computer games, then I would of course agree with you, and gladly as well. I find a diverse gaming experience to be more enjoyable, so the more female gamers the better.

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and regardless, lets not forget the fact that most girls dont even play computergames. at all.


My dear, you have just spouted a stereotype. Plenty of girls play computer games. They're just not very public about what they play.

agreed. Stereotypes are ideas based on a time long past and, like it or not, this IS the 21st century. A girl can like clothes-shopping and killing aliens equally, and if you say that all girls who play games are tomboys and boys who don't are girly, then you're saying that no "normal" girl likes gaming and all boys who dislike gaming are now, essentially, girls. You aren't a girl, and also aren't a boy who doesn't game, so how would you know, you complete and utter fool? Think before you speak in real life, at least, or you'll make some enemies.


what kind of gibberish are you writing here?
boys are girls and girls are boys? read before you reply to a post.
and learn to put some context in your words. what you've written there reads like a 9 year old wrote it.
if you disagree with me, from what i can figure, at least step into the discussion. if you try to disaffirm my text at least do it with some correlation istead of babbleing.


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[quote=WeeklyManga-chan]
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and regardless, lets not forget the fact that most girls dont even play computergames. at all.


Edit: Saying this here so this stupid post doesn't get revived. You said the exceptions are tomboys and girly boys, so I just replied to that. So then, no normal girl likes gaming and no normal boy doesn't? Is that what you're saying? Cheers


yes that's what i'm saying.
the vast majority of boys play computergames..undoubtedly.
the vast majority of girls doesnt. even if you can name a few examples that friends of you play games too. a few examples of friends, who naturally have similiar interest is not the vast majority. it's the exception.

if there will be a time in the future were it's normal for most (lets say >50% or so) girls to "kill aliens" or "step into a dragons dungeon to save a town" after shopping then you obviously arent the exception anymore. and the definition of "girly" changes.

but right now the defintion of girly certainly does not include "girls play computergames" since girls usually don't.
what is manly and what is girly is allways defined by the times and the society we live in.

and if i meet a man who plays with barbie dolls. i might just walk by and hike my shoulders but i certainly woudln't think or say he is manly even if he would be muscular.
beeing a tomboy girl or girly man has nothing to do with the looks. the only thing that really matters is your personality. and if your personality opposes the majority of genders lifestyles, you are not normal.

and dont try to make me look like i care about some old fashioned doctrine like "this is how girls/boys have to life their lifes". in fact i would prefere if more women/girls would play computergames (talking about similar interest).
i just simply stating how reality looks like and how we (as a society) define our stereotypes and those that don't follow one.


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According to a survey conducted by the ESA 40% of gamers are females. If you are wondering why female gamers don't reveal themselves online please follow the link that mizunosaki has provided.

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Have you ever been to http://fatuglyorslutty.com/? Pretty much has what some tough 'male gamers' think about female gamers... I'm a female gamer myself and I always make an effort to stay out from online games because of these kinds of things.



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Yes, I agree with the stereotypes. I mean, I am a female gamer, and I've been stereotyped. Actually, I don't like to play RPG'S and the like, but if I did I would not be a healer. Might as well add, I have a young female cousin that is just an AWESOME player, and not playing computer games, I mean COD, Metal Gear, Tekken, Mortal Combat, and all of those that have to do with guns and fighting and she plays better than her dad, her classmates, my brothers and their classmates, and my cousins. She always plays male characters because she has also been stereotyped online. By the way, she is not a tomboy. And, I am so proud of her skills... eek biggrin

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So, whatever I say you'll just keep on restating your opinion until I leave this forum post in disgust forever just like this. Congratulations or something. You win an empty chatroom. roll eyes
And there is such a thing as a jock, no? I wouldn't call them gamers.

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I'm a girl and I play both mmorpg and rpg .
And I'm good !

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and regardless, lets not forget the fact that most girls dont even play computergames. at all.


My dear, you have just spouted a stereotype. Plenty of girls play computer games. They're just not very public about what they play.

agreed. Stereotypes are ideas based on a time long past and, like it or not, this IS the 21st century. A girl can like clothes-shopping and killing aliens equally, and if you say that all girls who play games are tomboys and boys who don't are girly, then you're saying that no "normal" girl likes gaming and all boys who dislike gaming are now, essentially, girls. You aren't a girl, and also aren't a boy who doesn't game, so how would you know, you complete and utter fool? Think before you speak in real life, at least, or you'll make some enemies.


what kind of gibberish are you writing here?
boys are girls and girls are boys? read before you reply to a post.
and learn to put some context in your words. what you've written there reads like a 9 year old wrote it.
if you disagree with me, from what i can figure, at least step into the discussion. if you try to disaffirm my text at least do it with some correlation istead of babbleing.


Says the person who doesn't use capital letters, writes "computergames" instead of "computer games" and can't spell "instead" or "babbling". Don't be a hypocrite.

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yes that's what i'm saying.
the vast majority of boys play computergames..undoubtedly.
the vast majority of girls doesnt. even if you can name a few examples that friends of you play games too. a few examples of friends, who naturally have similiar interest is not the vast majority. it's the exception.

if there will be a time in the future were it's normal for most (lets say >50% or so) girls to "kill aliens" or "step into a dragons dungeon to save a town" after shopping then you obviously arent the exception anymore. and the definition of "girly" changes.

but right now the defintion of girly certainly does not include "girls play computergames" since girls usually don't.
what is manly and what is girly is allways defined by the times and the society we live in.

and if i meet a man who plays with barbie dolls. i might just walk by and hike my shoulders but i certainly woudln't think or say he is manly even if he would be muscular.
beeing a tomboy girl or girly man has nothing to do with the looks. the only thing that really matters is your personality. and if your personality opposes the majority of genders lifestyles, you are not normal.

and dont try to make me look like i care about some old fashioned doctrine like "this is how girls/boys have to life their lifes". in fact i would prefere if more women/girls would play computergames (talking about similar interest).
i just simply stating how reality looks like and how we (as a society) define our stereotypes and those that don't follow one.


When you're talking about the "vast majority", you should have some actual sources instead of spouting worthless anecdotes if you want to be serious about debating this. Just saying "it's a stereotype" isn't good enough. (Those ad hominem attacks aren't helping your case either.) Your remarks about societies are incredibly vague as well. What societies are you talking about? Western society? North American society? European society? Eastern society? Asian society? You are making HUGE generalizations here, and every society isn't going to have the exact same stereotypes.

If a man has a single "girly" feature (like your example with dolls) but all of his other features are "manly", would you still say that he's not manly? If a woman has a "manly" feature and all of her other features are "girly" would you still say that she's not girly? You can't use extremes like these. They don't make any sense. Saying that someone isn't normal because they don't fit this stereotype binary is a sentiment that I sincerely hope no one actually believes or tries to force on other people.

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I just found this topic and read a lot of these comments that you people are saying. My opinion is that people should be allowed to like what they like without others pressuring them. Another thing is that give anyone enough time and practice, they will most likely become a formidable opponent, whether they be a boy or girl.


When I started out, I wasn't the best player around and was trying to figure out different aspects of games that I played. Because of this, I'm what I like to call a "Treasure Hunter" for both console and online games. I tend to find secrets both intentionally and unintentionally which include bonuses, hidden items, glitches, and whatnot. Strangely enough, I haven't really found any horrible men online that place their "unappetizing" comments toward me. The only comments I have really encountered were taunts in the middle of battles to go for an opening at me. The reasons for this are probably within the area that I'm used to battling and winning against higher level players. Which brings me to my next topic about being a good gamer.


At my school, there is a Gamer's club that many people like to come to. I am one of them. And mind you that they are players in Halo and Black Ops where they are ranked fairly high in the world. I am not one of them (I'm broke biggrin.) Usually we play things like Super Smash Bros. Brawl so we can have four playing at once. My usual character is Samus Zero Suit and the players usually stick solidly to one character. Some of the most amazing players are Zelda and Snake. Since I'm more used to hand to hand combat, I'm not in much of an advantage when facing these two. However, I can pick them off and give myself somewhat of a decent chance at first place or second place (I'm not praising myself too highly, I'm just a quick strategist.)

So just so you people know, everyone has their own favorite style of playing when it comes to games. My half-brother prefers magic users and healers as his characters yet he can knock the living daylights out of opposing players with melee fighters with not much regard to their level. Me, because of the way I grew up, prefer to do melee and usually use myself as a meatshield for my teammates and yet I am never the first to die. And yes, I am a girl. eyes

P.S. If the stereotypes about girls are true, then sooner or later, boys, YOU GONNA GET VIRTUALLY JUMPED.

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