...You people hating on others being racist... this is terrible, deep inside EVERYONE is racist. No matter what kind of person you are you have your own prejudices. Even if you think about it your racist. I can honestly say yes I'm racist, but that doesn't mean I have an intense hate, I just play around with the topic.
Racism is inevitable, even if you say you don't like it, it doesn't mean your not thinking of it.
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Uh... what L-O-L thread.
First of all, the correct term for those who classify themselves as racist but do not actually hate another race aren't racist,
thats called racially biased, which a majority of people are and I'm pretty sure everyone that has posted in this thread is. It's all human psychology to stick with "their own kind" be it skin color, other japanophiles, asians, whites, hollister/AE wearers, or people who share the same interest or dress similar to yourself. That's not racism, that's just your puny human brain trying to make sense of things and put a label and categorize everything so you don't have to THINK as hard.
Racism is when you see someone of a certain race and you want to just puke or hold your nose or even feel the urge to physically/verbally harm them because they are that race.
Then there are the racially elite that pretty much look down on every other race... for example... Japan, which most of you worship.
The irony is hilarious.
First of all, the correct term for those who classify themselves as racist but do not actually hate another race aren't racist,
thats called racially biased, which a majority of people are and I'm pretty sure everyone that has posted in this thread is. It's all human psychology to stick with "their own kind" be it skin color, other japanophiles, asians, whites, hollister/AE wearers, or people who share the same interest or dress similar to yourself. That's not racism, that's just your puny human brain trying to make sense of things and put a label and categorize everything so you don't have to THINK as hard.
Racism is when you see someone of a certain race and you want to just puke or hold your nose or even feel the urge to physically/verbally harm them because they are that race.
Then there are the racially elite that pretty much look down on every other race... for example... Japan, which most of you worship.
The irony is hilarious.
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Uh... what L-O-L thread.
First of all, the correct term for those who classify themselves as racist but do not actually hate another race aren't racist,
thats called racially biased, which a majority of people are and I'm pretty sure everyone that has posted in this thread is. It's all human psychology to stick with "their own kind" be it skin color, other japanophiles, asians, whites, hollister/AE wearers, or people who share the same interest or dress similar to yourself. That's not racism, that's just your puny human brain trying to make sense of things and put a label and categorize everything so you don't have to THINK as hard.
Racism is when you see someone of a certain race and you want to just puke or hold your nose or even feel the urge to physically/verbally harm them because they are that race.
Then there are the racially elite that pretty much look down on every other race... for example... Japan, which most of you worship.
The irony is hilarious.
First of all, the correct term for those who classify themselves as racist but do not actually hate another race aren't racist,
thats called racially biased, which a majority of people are and I'm pretty sure everyone that has posted in this thread is. It's all human psychology to stick with "their own kind" be it skin color, other japanophiles, asians, whites, hollister/AE wearers, or people who share the same interest or dress similar to yourself. That's not racism, that's just your puny human brain trying to make sense of things and put a label and categorize everything so you don't have to THINK as hard.
Racism is when you see someone of a certain race and you want to just puke or hold your nose or even feel the urge to physically/verbally harm them because they are that race.
Then there are the racially elite that pretty much look down on every other race... for example... Japan, which most of you worship.
The irony is hilarious.
Well, that's exactly what I feel towards the two races that I hated. And they did looked down on every other race, since their teachings majorly describe themselves as 'The Chosen One'.
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@ Kratos330, you are entitled to your own opinion but I strongly disagree. Yes a lot of people are prone to stereotypes but that is not the same as racism (of course it is still wrong). Racism is defined as thinking your race as superior to another one. And yes, a lot of people do have biases and prejudices inside. but claiming that everyone has racist feeling inside them seem to be justification for how YOU feel (in other words, dragging everyone down with you to make yourself feel better).
ps. even if EVERYONE had racist thoughts as you claim, that would not make it right or acceptable by any means. (Not trying to insult your intelligence, just clarifing).
ps. even if EVERYONE had racist thoughts as you claim, that would not make it right or acceptable by any means. (Not trying to insult your intelligence, just clarifing).
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Disclaimer: This post is the product of my own beliefs and experiences. You may disagree with me, but if you so choose then I challenge you to do your own academic research on the matter and come to conclusions based on facts and evidence.
Also, please read through the entire post before you form an opinion or decide respond to it.
There are many opinionated posts on this thread. And that's okay because your opinions are rationalized by your experiences, and each and every person has had a legitamate experience with this topic in some way, shape or form.
Before I begin, I want to say that I agree and disagree to the creation of this thread. I agree because I think that there can be many positive and beneficial byproducts of talking about this topic. However, I disagree because, on a forum where there is no direct in-person interaction, trying to talk about these things often turn into jokes, flames and venting. Although there will always be people that take things like this on a more serious note, this is not the case with everyone. I would like everyone to keep this, as well as the fact that people have reasons for what they believe in, in mind. Regardless of what some may claim, the intentions of a person that you don't know are nebulous to you at best.
On a more relevant note, I would like to make a few clarifications to this thread:
The academic definition of racism is that it is a socially constructed system of advantage based on appearance. Many people do not realize that what they talk about often isn't racism, it is discrimination and microagressions. These concepts are some of the byproducts of a racist society.
Racism is essentialy a system of institutionalized oppression. Although it was more visible in the past, it is still prevelant in modern day society (which is why we are having this discussion, I presume). I believe that racism has even gotten worse because of the fact that it has gone so under the radar that it has penetrated to the level of sub-consciousness. That is to say that there are many people who do not recognize the existance of racism even though they may contribute to the situation.
That being said, you don't HAVE to think or act in a racist way to be racist. That is merely the difference between engaging in active racism and passive racism. If you are not doing anything to change the situation in which you are in, then you are being passively racist. My argument for this is as follows:
If you are not doing anything to change the situation then you have...
1) accepted this as reality and chose to disengage from it (i.e. not participate in discrimination/microaggressions etc).
2) decided that even though you dislike it, there is nothing you can do about it.
3) decided that it isn't relevant to you, thus there's not point in pursuing it.
4) (insert your own reason here)
Since you have consciously decided not to do anything, then you are allowing the sitution to persist. Ergo, disengaging from racism is not enough. You have to do your best to speak and act against it in order to create change in the environment you are in.
(And this is where my humanistic side comes in)
Each and every one of us has a story behind our face. We all have more to us than when others may see. Is it worth it to look down upon others because they simply differ by a mere superficial aspect that they had absolutely no control of? Give me one example JUST ONE of someone who decided who was going to give birth to him/her. The mere thought of it is ridiculous. We are all human. Shouldn't that be enough for us to see one another as equal? We could have just as easily ended up in the shoes of someone less fortunate. Yet, we take our privileges for granted and spit at those whom we see as being less important than us. In order to justify wars, we dehuminize the people that live in those countries. "Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, he will not hesitate to attack the innocent, we must remove this monster from power"! And now years later we are still sucking the oil from the veins of Iraq while the sand is permenantly stained red with the blood of it's people. The same people that were said that they needed to be saved from their terrible situation. The same people that we said we need to help them establish a legitamate democracy. Is oil really more important then the life and blood of people? Without people, there would be no one to use that oil. Am I wrong? What gives me the right to use that oil over anyone else?
Just to clarify: This post is meant to get you to think deeper about racism and how we as human beings deal with one another on a local and global scale.
If you want to understand more about racism I highly recommed "Why do all the black people sit together in the cafeteria?" written by Beverly Daniel Tatum (please do not judge this book on its title as it may not be what you think it is). Substitute one of your manga readings for this book. I'm sure that you will not be disappointed.
Thanks for reading.
You can reach me via e-mail at rfakhro@uci.edu if you want to talk.
Also, please read through the entire post before you form an opinion or decide respond to it.
There are many opinionated posts on this thread. And that's okay because your opinions are rationalized by your experiences, and each and every person has had a legitamate experience with this topic in some way, shape or form.
Before I begin, I want to say that I agree and disagree to the creation of this thread. I agree because I think that there can be many positive and beneficial byproducts of talking about this topic. However, I disagree because, on a forum where there is no direct in-person interaction, trying to talk about these things often turn into jokes, flames and venting. Although there will always be people that take things like this on a more serious note, this is not the case with everyone. I would like everyone to keep this, as well as the fact that people have reasons for what they believe in, in mind. Regardless of what some may claim, the intentions of a person that you don't know are nebulous to you at best.
On a more relevant note, I would like to make a few clarifications to this thread:
The academic definition of racism is that it is a socially constructed system of advantage based on appearance. Many people do not realize that what they talk about often isn't racism, it is discrimination and microagressions. These concepts are some of the byproducts of a racist society.
Racism is essentialy a system of institutionalized oppression. Although it was more visible in the past, it is still prevelant in modern day society (which is why we are having this discussion, I presume). I believe that racism has even gotten worse because of the fact that it has gone so under the radar that it has penetrated to the level of sub-consciousness. That is to say that there are many people who do not recognize the existance of racism even though they may contribute to the situation.
That being said, you don't HAVE to think or act in a racist way to be racist. That is merely the difference between engaging in active racism and passive racism. If you are not doing anything to change the situation in which you are in, then you are being passively racist. My argument for this is as follows:
If you are not doing anything to change the situation then you have...
1) accepted this as reality and chose to disengage from it (i.e. not participate in discrimination/microaggressions etc).
2) decided that even though you dislike it, there is nothing you can do about it.
3) decided that it isn't relevant to you, thus there's not point in pursuing it.
4) (insert your own reason here)
Since you have consciously decided not to do anything, then you are allowing the sitution to persist. Ergo, disengaging from racism is not enough. You have to do your best to speak and act against it in order to create change in the environment you are in.
(And this is where my humanistic side comes in)
Each and every one of us has a story behind our face. We all have more to us than when others may see. Is it worth it to look down upon others because they simply differ by a mere superficial aspect that they had absolutely no control of? Give me one example JUST ONE of someone who decided who was going to give birth to him/her. The mere thought of it is ridiculous. We are all human. Shouldn't that be enough for us to see one another as equal? We could have just as easily ended up in the shoes of someone less fortunate. Yet, we take our privileges for granted and spit at those whom we see as being less important than us. In order to justify wars, we dehuminize the people that live in those countries. "Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, he will not hesitate to attack the innocent, we must remove this monster from power"! And now years later we are still sucking the oil from the veins of Iraq while the sand is permenantly stained red with the blood of it's people. The same people that were said that they needed to be saved from their terrible situation. The same people that we said we need to help them establish a legitamate democracy. Is oil really more important then the life and blood of people? Without people, there would be no one to use that oil. Am I wrong? What gives me the right to use that oil over anyone else?
Just to clarify: This post is meant to get you to think deeper about racism and how we as human beings deal with one another on a local and global scale.
If you want to understand more about racism I highly recommed "Why do all the black people sit together in the cafeteria?" written by Beverly Daniel Tatum (please do not judge this book on its title as it may not be what you think it is). Substitute one of your manga readings for this book. I'm sure that you will not be disappointed.
Thanks for reading.
You can reach me via e-mail at rfakhro@uci.edu if you want to talk.
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Racism is a really bad thing. Most of us are racists without realizing it.
For example...I don't think everyone here would agree to go out with someone who has different skin color, comes from a different nation/continent and has different manners....To me it doesn't matter of course^^
For example...I don't think everyone here would agree to go out with someone who has different skin color, comes from a different nation/continent and has different manners....To me it doesn't matter of course^^
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ctserge you made some great points...
A good author I'd recommend is Tim Wise. All his books are great and also many of his lectures are on youtube and such. He is really thought provoking and enlightening.
A good author I'd recommend is Tim Wise. All his books are great and also many of his lectures are on youtube and such. He is really thought provoking and enlightening.
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Polite bump.
Ugh, I hate racism. I'm a foreigner myself, and I just know that when I walk through the streets, half of them is looking at me with an apprehensive look as if I'm about to mug them. .___.;; Racism is basically an uneducated opinion for people that are too lazy to think more nuanced, and are generally unhappy with their lives, and just want their hate to have more focus. And hating a whole race gives just that.
tl;dr? Racism is for losers.
Such a childish thought pattern.
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Ugh, I hate racism. I'm a foreigner myself, and I just know that when I walk through the streets, half of them is looking at me with an apprehensive look as if I'm about to mug them. .___.;; Racism is basically an uneducated opinion for people that are too lazy to think more nuanced, and are generally unhappy with their lives, and just want their hate to have more focus. And hating a whole race gives just that.
tl;dr? Racism is for losers.
Such a childish thought pattern.________________
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Polite bump.
Ugh, I hate racism. I'm a foreigner myself, and I just know that when I walk through the streets, half of them is looking at me with an apprehensive look as if I'm about to mug them. .___.;;
Ugh, I hate racism. I'm a foreigner myself, and I just know that when I walk through the streets, half of them is looking at me with an apprehensive look as if I'm about to mug them. .___.;;
Really?
You?
Where do you live?
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Um. Racism huh? I think it is a bad thing, a thing that is quite common-though not as visible as it used to be- and it is something that is very difficult to handle. First off, you generally aren't going to be able to change the mind of someone who is already racist. Secondly, I think that trying to deal with racism-or at least in the U.S. it is like this- is just causing a lot of 'different' discrimination. Things that might not be rooted in racism can be called racist. (for example, the incident a while ago where Hispanic firemen didn't pass a test while white firemen did. Was it a racial issue?) Also, minorities seem to be favored more in terms of scholarships and financial aid. Just because I'm middle-eastern in background I can get a lot of scholarships simply because of my race, while my friends who are Caucasian cannot. But thats more like racial discrimination. Whatever, I'm not making any sense, so I'll just say that I dislike it. I'll edit this later when I can compress my thought process. >_>
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I'm not going to say I hate people that are racist, because that would be putting myself into the same boat as them. Regardless of what I really think of people like that, I think hating people you don't even know isn't something I want to do...So 
I wonder how many people that voted "Hell no.. You shouldn't hate people because of race.." discriminate against people in some other way.
Racism is not cool, period. Keep those thoughts to yourself. Even though I am Caucasian (supposedly the least discriminated against), I have dealt with it on occasion. I've found that those that are used to it can become bitter and quite mean. But I deal with my own share of discrimination in other ways, so don't hate me because you think I'm "not as hated as you and don't know what it's like." Hypocrites make me sad
I also deal with someone that is racist on a daily basis, and they spit out certain nasty comments like normal dialog, even though I keep telling them to keep it away from me, I don't find it funny. They are also homophobic. I am ashamed to even know them
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I wonder how many people that voted "Hell no.. You shouldn't hate people because of race.." discriminate against people in some other way.
Racism is not cool, period. Keep those thoughts to yourself. Even though I am Caucasian (supposedly the least discriminated against), I have dealt with it on occasion. I've found that those that are used to it can become bitter and quite mean. But I deal with my own share of discrimination in other ways, so don't hate me because you think I'm "not as hated as you and don't know what it's like." Hypocrites make me sad
I also deal with someone that is racist on a daily basis, and they spit out certain nasty comments like normal dialog, even though I keep telling them to keep it away from me, I don't find it funny. They are also homophobic. I am ashamed to even know them
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I don't like racism. D: And I hate hearing racist remarks, but since I live in such a diverse country..it can't be helped. >:']
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Racists piss me off.
It's like, what makes you think you're better than a certain race?
Your hateful words, actions and thoughts towards a certain race doesn't make you better than anyone.
I hate racists.
So much.
I'm very passive and I rarely get mad, but racists just...
I just hate them. ):
I don't understand how they can do the things they do.
I'm probably biased because I'm grown up being bullied.
I'm Asian, and ever since I started kindergarten, kids would make fun of me.
I was one of only female Asian, surrounded by whites, so I never thought myself as Asian when I was little.
I considered myself American because I was born into America, and I assumed I was normal like everyone else.
I didn't understand why I was the only one being treated like that.
The only other Asian girl was adopted so she was more americanized, rather than me with an Asian background.
I was also very quiet, unsocial, shy, and etc etc, so kids knew they could get away with being mean to me.
As I got older it sort of got harder since it was always like ONE specific person would target me all the time.
Like they had nothing freaking better to do.
And as I got even older, entering middle and finally high school, not only were the students racists, the teachers were just as bad. ):
Like some one mentioned, even though I can't stand racisms at all, racist jokes are fine with me.
I think they're funny, and me and my friends joke about our race all the time.
I'm okay with it because I know it's not real discrimination. My friends and I understand what real racism feels like, so when we joke around, it's really just a joke.
It's like, what makes you think you're better than a certain race?
Your hateful words, actions and thoughts towards a certain race doesn't make you better than anyone.
I hate racists.
So much.
I'm very passive and I rarely get mad, but racists just...
I just hate them. ):
I don't understand how they can do the things they do.
I'm probably biased because I'm grown up being bullied.
I'm Asian, and ever since I started kindergarten, kids would make fun of me.
I was one of only female Asian, surrounded by whites, so I never thought myself as Asian when I was little.
I considered myself American because I was born into America, and I assumed I was normal like everyone else.
I didn't understand why I was the only one being treated like that.
The only other Asian girl was adopted so she was more americanized, rather than me with an Asian background.
I was also very quiet, unsocial, shy, and etc etc, so kids knew they could get away with being mean to me.
As I got older it sort of got harder since it was always like ONE specific person would target me all the time.
Like they had nothing freaking better to do.
And as I got even older, entering middle and finally high school, not only were the students racists, the teachers were just as bad. ):
Like some one mentioned, even though I can't stand racisms at all, racist jokes are fine with me.
I think they're funny, and me and my friends joke about our race all the time.
I'm okay with it because I know it's not real discrimination. My friends and I understand what real racism feels like, so when we joke around, it's really just a joke.
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racism n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
Racism is not hate.The belief or view that: Asians are better at math is racist. Black people are more criminalistic is racist. Canadians are superior to Americans is racist.
Bigotry n.
1. Stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2. The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance.
The key difference being intolerance. Most of whats being said is actually bigotry, not racism. Most if not all people are generally racist in some manner. To not be would be similar to Buddha/Christ etc. Theres a quote i've seen attributed to Buddha "No matter who you are I love you equally. -Buddha"
My point is that thinking your or your group is superior to others doesn't make you a bad person. Actively persecuting differing groups generaly is. Hating racists is being racist.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
Racism is not hate.The belief or view that: Asians are better at math is racist. Black people are more criminalistic is racist. Canadians are superior to Americans is racist.
Bigotry n.
1. Stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2. The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance.
The key difference being intolerance. Most of whats being said is actually bigotry, not racism. Most if not all people are generally racist in some manner. To not be would be similar to Buddha/Christ etc. Theres a quote i've seen attributed to Buddha "No matter who you are I love you equally. -Buddha"
My point is that thinking your or your group is superior to others doesn't make you a bad person. Actively persecuting differing groups generaly is. Hating racists is being racist.
