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Post #465407 - Reply to (#465383) by daisukidesuyo
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As a tiny Filipino girl, I say white boys are delicious wink

seconded!!
but still Filipino boys are awesome!!!
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Post #465409 - Reply to (#465407) by otakuness
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As a tiny Filipino girl, I say white boys are delicious wink

seconded!!
but still Filipino boys are awesome!!!
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looooooooooooool. I had crushes on Filipino boys up until high school. ^^

And then I developed a huge crush on a Mexican... and then came college, and I was introduced to the world of Persian guys and white guys. I guess you can say I'm totally fine with interracial relationships. ^^

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Well Im a 17 yearold Japanese male with an Eskimo girlfriend so interracial dating ftw ^^.

But on a serious note, I think I get where you're coming from. I was born and raised outside Japan all my life so I'm pretty much a Japanese in appearance but a Westerner in mind and personality. So from my point-of-view alot of the Asians do seem a bit "odd" or "different". But you got to understand that alot of Asians date fellow Asians due to the language barrier they might face. And its more like an instinct thing, you tend to seek something you have a resemblance or relation to. For example an Asian fluent in English lost in the middle of nowhere in Australia would still probably ask for directions from a fellow Asian if an Asian, a white, and a African-american were all standing next to each other.

You shouldnt think too hard on it. Because you're dating the person for who they are right? You dont seem like a shallow person who dates another in terms of appearance. And there are no rules in dating. Sure some people may have "unspoken rules" or "taboo relationships", but who are they to make you change your relationship. A relationship is a mutual thig between two people. If the others dont like it, tough.

Post #465418 - Reply to (#465401) by choot
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Hmmm, yeah I read somewhere too that asian males and african females are the two least datable ethnic groups. Maybe being an asian girl or black guy, I guess we are just stuck with having to deal with the worst pickings...


Worst pickings? Why say that?

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I don't personally hold race as a certain criteria when liking someone. From time to time I do feel conscious about it, but that wouldn't stop me from dating the person like (assuming that person likes me back laugh ). It might be because people are accustomed to seeing a type of person and believe in the absoluteness or socially encouraged to date someone of the same race. I never felt that way when I was raised completely Asian, but my friends have mentioned the awkwardness of interracial relationships.

Still, geniality and mutual emotions shouldn't be inhibited by race.

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Post #465420 - Reply to (#465419) by chineserider
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Still, geniality and mutual emotions shouldn't be inhibited by race.



YES, thank you

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I have no problem with interracial dating, though I can see how there could be issues due to different cultural expectations, language barriers, etc.

I think sometimes, up to a point, a person can seek out (either consciously or subconsciously) someone who is different than a part of themselves that they dislike. For myself, I hate being so fair-skinned, and I know that part of the reason I tend to find darker-skinned guys more attractive is that I do NOT want to pass that fair skin on to any possible future kids. I hate being pale because of getting sunburned so easily, higher risk of skin cancer, etc., not because of race. And - even though I generally am more attracted to darker guys - the most enduring crush of my life was/is a fair-skinned, green-eyed, blond. laugh

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Haha, I'm all for interracial dating - hell, my mom's Mexican and my dad is an American of Russian decent (his grandparents moved here).

Although I'm partially hispanic, I don't have the stereotypical tan skin or brown eyes and my hair only turned brown in 9th grade (I guess I look prettty white with my pale skin and olive-green eyes). I also come from predominantly white towns, so I've grown up with white boys. But I also love people of other races, I don't even understand how I find guys to be hot, but when I do, their race adds flavor to them.

Also, I really like asian guys cry and I am saddened at the fact that most asian guys date asian girls. I see asian-asian couples everywhere, and I don't think I've ever seen asian-other couples! I did dance with an asian guy when I was clubbing one time, and although he wasn't (in my opinion) attractive, it still made me happy. Most of my friends don't find asian guys attractive or understand why I do... maybe it's that most of them aren't like the stereotypical "bad boy" white guy (and I always notice black hair from the corner of my eye).

Ah, but yeah, whenever I go to Mexico I see tons of cute guys, so I'm always telling my friends about hot Mexican guys, haha! Hotness isn't specific to one race! I encourage everyone to keep an open mind and consider interracial dating~ (Races are interesting!)

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I am all for interracial dating/breeding, except for in the far far future, when we all become one mega race. Then it would all be just so boring.

Post #465448 - Reply to (#465401) by choot
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Hmmm, yeah I read somewhere too that asian males and african females are the two least datable ethnic groups. Maybe being an asian girl or black guy, I guess we are just stuck with having to deal with the worst pickings...


And how does that sentence set you above the very Asian boys that you complain about who criticize your preference for white men? Your generalizations may not fall into the realm of racism, but it doesn't change the fact you sound like a bigot.

Whether Asian guys/black girls are "datable", I wouldn't put too much faith in some "findings" that isn't scientific and/or significant enough to make it into the news. And chances are even if it was true it wouldn't likely to have any kind of an impact on one's own personal life.

The thing I get from you is for all your huff and puff about dating white men you seem to care way too much what your Asian male peers think of you.

Post #465451 - Reply to (#465448) by willdabeast
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Hmmm, yeah I read somewhere too that asian males and african females are the two least datable ethnic groups. Maybe being an asian girl or black guy, I guess we are just stuck with having to deal with the worst pickings...


And how does that sentence set you above the very Asian boys that you complain about who criticize your preference for white men? Your generalizations may not fall into the realm of racism, but it doesn't change the fact you sound like a bigot.

Whether Asian guys/black girls are "datable", I wouldn't put too much faith in some "findings" that isn't scientific and/or significant enough to make it into the news. And chances are even if it was true it wouldn't likely to have any kind of an impact on one's own personal life.

The thing I get from you is for all your huff and puff about dating white men you seem to care way too much what your Asian male peers think of you.


Chill girl! I'm just siting some stat I read (think from the New York Times or NPR haha). You're probably right, I probably am somewhat attracted to asian men/other races too - so long as they can be cheerful and well-read.
Mannn, it is so late and it is exam week for me so I might just be pulling the hate out on the specific nerdy asian guys who will bring up the curve. On a happy day I might beef with you but right now it is just too late to still be awake...(gonna be one of those "asians sleeping in the library" soon if you read the blog)

Post #465455 - Reply to (#465451) by choot
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Quote from willdabeast
And how does that sentence set you above the very Asian boys that you complain about who criticize your preference for white men? Your generalizations may not fall into the realm of racism, but it doesn't change the fact you sound like a bigot.

Whether Asian guys/black girls are "datable", I wouldn't put too much faith in some "findings" that isn't scientific and/or significant enough to make it into the news. And chances are even if it was true it wouldn't likely to have any kind of an impact on one's own personal life.

The thing I get from you is for all your huff and puff about dating white men you seem to care way too much what your Asian male peers think of you.


+1

I can't add much to that.

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Hmmm, yeah I read somewhere too that asian males and african females are the two least datable ethnic groups. Maybe being an asian girl or black guy, I guess we are just stuck with having to deal with the worst pickings...

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Chill girl! I'm just siting some stat I read (think from the New York Times or NPR haha). You're probably right, I probably am somewhat attracted to asian men/other races too - so long as they can be cheerful and well-read.
Mannn, it is so late and it is exam week for me so I might just be pulling the hate out on the specific nerdy asian guys who will bring up the curve. On a happy day I might beef with you but right now it is just too late to still be awake...(gonna be one of those "asians sleeping in the library" soon if you read the blog)


NYT and NPR... roll

Tbh, I've read and heard of similar ideas. Asian females being hyperfeminized, black males being hypermasculine. There is some truth to Asian men emasculated by western media/culture.

From my actual experience though, media's portrayal hasn't really held up. I don't know what Asian males you've been running into, but most of the ones I've known, including myself are hardly passive/quiet. It might have been true in the past, I dunno, but Asian males I've known are so "cheerful", well-read, and aggressive that I'd think they were trying to overcompensate for their negative image.

I've wondered whether it was fair that many Asian males are working so much harder to set themselves apart, put themselves a step above the rest. Most of the Asian males I know, including myself, are not only overachieving academically, but athletically now too. So I guess while media/pop culture portrays Asian males negatively, I can't say I dislike it. I've actually benefited from that, because I'm one of those who grows faster under pressure/challenge. Most women are smart enough to see me as an individual and value my accomplishments over popular portrayals of my race.

Contrapositively, most Asian American women around here have really, really let themselves go. Pardon my lack of political correctness, to everyone aside from choot, who is being quite crude/frank herself. I think it's almost undeniable, where I live, that there is a bit of idolization going on with regards to the Asian female. Unfortunately, it seems to get into the heads of a lot of these Asian women, not quite unlike choot. They'll often bring up the fact that they have wide array of potential mates, and lord it over others.

Consequently, I see a lot of subpar Asian girls: no self-control, unhealthy, vapid personalities, dull, arrogant/overconfident, no future (aside from marriage)... not much in general going for them except for the fact they just happen to be Asian chicks, meaning they can probably still land someone who will, for some reason or another, only go for Asian girls. I've seen these, and where I live they are the new "blondes". Lack of pressure didn't do them any good, I suppose. I'm not saying you, choot, are one of these. Maybe you're a step above.

It works out fine for me, because I have room to be picky and I don't necessarily have to marry an Asian girl. And the more clueless and/or tainted certain Asian girls become by this increasingly obsolete notion of superiority, the easier they are to spot (and stay away from).

I think it should be easier for you, choot, to stay away from these Asian guys you don't like, than it is for me to stay away from these Asian girls I don't like. (because I don't blindly assume the Asian girls I meet have such a shallow mindset.)

If another Asian guy tries to hit on you, why don't you just take it as a compliment, and just let him know you're not interested instead of bragging about it and belittling them online? I know it feels good for your ego, but it'll make you look ugly in the long run. Just some friendly advice. smile

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NYT and NPR... roll

Tbh, I've read and heard of similar ideas. Asian females being hyperfeminized, black males being hypermasculine. There is some truth to Asian men emasculated by western media/culture.

From my actual experience though, media's portrayal hasn't really held up. I don't know what Asian males you've been running into, but most of the ones I've known, including myself are hardly passive/quiet. It might have been true in the past, I dunno, but Asian males I've known are so "cheerful", well-read, and aggressive that I'd think they were trying to overcompensate for their negative image.

I've wondered whether it was fair that many Asian males are working so much harder to set themselves apart, put themselves a step above the rest. Most of the Asian males I know, including myself, are not only overachieving academically, but athletically now too. So I guess while media/pop culture portrays Asian males negatively, I can't say I dislike it. I've actually benefited from that, because I'm one of those who grows faster under pressure/challenge. Most women are smart enough to see me as an individual and value my accomplishments over popular portrayals of my race.

Contrapositively, most Asian American women around here have really, really let themselves go. Pardon my lack of political correctness, to everyone aside from choot, who is being quite crude/frank herself. I think it's almost undeniable, where I live, that there is a bit of idolization going on with regards to the Asian female. Unfortunately, it seems to get into the heads of a lot of these Asian women, not quite unlike choot. They'll often bring up the fact that they have wide array of potential mates, and lord it over others.

Consequently, I see a lot of subpar Asian girls: no self-control, unhealthy, vapid personalities, dull, arrogant/overconfident, no future (aside from marriage)... not much in general going for them except for the fact they just happen to be Asian chicks, meaning they can probably still land someone who will, for some reason or another, only go for Asian girls. I've seen these, and where I live they are the new "blondes". Lack of pressure didn't do them any good, I suppose. I'm not saying you, choot, are one of these. Maybe you're a step above.

It works out fine for me, because I have room to be picky and I don't necessarily have to marry an Asian girl. And the more clueless and/or tainted certain Asian girls become by this increasingly obsolete notion of superiority, the easier they are to spot (and stay away from).

I think it should be easier for you, choot, to stay away from these Asian guys you don't like, than it is for me to stay away from these Asian girls I don't like. (because I don't blindly assume the Asian girls I meet have such a shallow mindset.)

If another Asian guy tries to hit on you, why don't you just take it as a compliment, and just let him know you're not interested instead of bragging about it and belittling them online? I know it feels good for your ego, but it'll make you look ugly in the long run. Just some friendly advice. smile


You my friend have just literally spoke the word from all the minds of those asian guys who've worked hard to create their unique character. The perspective choot speaks from is the ego that the asian girls have built for themselves. Alot of these girls have become so vain over the years because of the pedal-stool they've been set on, times change..

on side note.. most of the smarter asian guys in my area end up going out with hispanic girls or girls outside of their race and end up in a good relationship.. while the asian girls who do the same end up getting hurt and repeating the same mistake over and over because they have it set in their minds that they dont want to date asian guys rather then they are attracted to other groups.

Post #465539 - Reply to (#465501) by teck
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on side note.. most of the smarter asian guys in my area end up going out with hispanic girls or girls outside of their race and end up in a good relationship.. while the asian girls who do the same end up getting hurt and repeating the same mistake over and over because they have it set in their minds that they dont want to date asian guys rather then they are attracted to other groups.


In california there are a lot of people who wont date outside their race (at least where I live). So hearing, where you live, asian males date hispanic girls, which is really awesome.

I think a lot of this is about the culture you are raised. You would think that because I live near san Francisco, that people would be liberal and open minded, But thats not true. In the suburbs south of SF, people hang out in groups divided by race. I really dont understand why. People tend to fill stereotypes down here...


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As what KevJumba has said, interracial babies can help eliminate racism! Although this is very shallow thinking...

Being an Asian chica, I do NOT think interracial dating is self-hate! No, no, no!!!

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