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In california there are a lot of people who wont date outside their race (at least where I live). So hearing, where you live, asian males date hispanic girls, which is really awesome.

I think a lot of this is about the culture you are raised. You would think that because I live near san Francisco, that people would be liberal and open minded, But thats not true. In the suburbs south of SF, people hang out in groups divided by race. I really dont understand why. People tend to fill stereotypes down here


im from texas and you would think the opposite from where im from lol.. hell my first girl was hispanic and we had fun talking to each other in our own languages and teaching each other bout our cultures etc.. the whole dividing in race thing definitely comes down to culture i hang around alot of the hiphop and dance culture so we're all one big family it changes with each generation and the type of people you hang out with.. and it all depends on how open minded they are thankfully for me i grew up with all kinds of friends so i've never known segregation between groups besides when i was younger but like i said things change with time. thats why for me i go by style/charisma and if the girl is closed minded then you just gotta open her mind.. i dance, im an artist, and i make music, i have an interest in philosophy and a unique character that stands out from alot of people and if the girl cant get over the race factor, then, intelligently, she would be lower then me and that type of person holds you back wink

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i found this once in the net. it´s about which country the japanese hate the most:
2008 result
1 Korea 72.8% 31112 votes
2 China 9.2% 3916 votes
3 North Korea 5.6% 2406 votes
4 Australia 2.9% 1236 votes
5 U.S. 2.7% 1166 votes
6 Russia 2.4% 1022 votes
7 Japan 1.4% 609 votes
8 Liechtenstein 0.5% 202 votes
9 Kuwait 0.4% 171 votes
10 None 0.3% 119 votes
11 Israel 0.3% 116 votes
12 France 0.2% 105 votes
13 Taiwan 0.2% 94 votes
14 Netherlands 0.2% 91 votes
15 UK 0.2% 82 votes
16 Republic of South Africa 0.1% 30 votes
17 Hong Kong 0.1% 29 votes
18 Philippines 0.1% 26 votes
19 Kingdom and Commonwealth 0.1% 23 votes
20 Argentina 0% 21 votes
21 India 0% 15 votes
22 Vatican City 0% 14 votes
23 Italy 0% 12 votes
24 Singapore 0% 11 votes
25 Canada 0% 10 votes
26 Germany 0% 10 votes
27 Sudan 0% 9 votes
28 Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe 0% 7 votes
29 Brazil 0% 7 votes
30 Republic of Azerbaijan 6 votes
31 Republic of Turkey 0% 6 votes
32 New Zealand 0% 6 votes
33 Republic of Armenia 0% 4 votes
34 Georgia 0% 3 votes
35 Zimbabwe 0% 3 votes
36 Spain 0% 3 votes
37 SENTOKURISUTOFANEIBISU 0% 3 votes
38 Tibet 0% 3 votes
39 Peru 0% 3 votes
40 Mongolia 0% 3 votes
41 Iraq 0% 2 votes
42 Qatar 0% 2 votes
43 Cuba 0% 2 votes
44 Zambia 0% 2 votes
45 Myanmar 0% 2 votes
46 Libya 0% 2 votes
47 Romania 0% 2 votes
48 Indonesia 0% 1 vote
49 Egypt 0% 1 vote
50 El Salvador 0% 1 vote
51 Syria 0% 1 vote
52 Togo 0% 1 vote
53 Haiti 0% 1 vote
54 Bhutan 0% 1 vote
55 Honduras 0% 1 vote
56 Portugal 0% 1 vote
57 Madagascar 0% 1 vote
58 Liberia 0% 1 vote
59 Principality Sealander 0% 0 votes
60 Burundi 0% 0 votes
61 Vietnam 0% 0 votes
62 Macau 0% 0 votes


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Post #465546 - Reply to (#465542) by teck
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im from texas and you would think the opposite from where im from lol.. hell my first girl was hispanic and we had fun talking to each other in our own languages and teaching each other bout our cultures etc.. the whole dividing in race thing definitely comes down to culture i hang around alot of the hiphop and dance culture so we're all one big family it changes with each generation and the type of people you hang out with.. and it all depends on how open minded they are thankfully for me i grew up with all kinds of friends so i've never known segregation between groups besides when i was younger but like i said things change with time. thats why for me i go by style/charisma and if the girl is closed minded then you just gotta open her mind.. i dance, im an artist, and i make music, i have an interest in philosophy and a unique character that stands out from alot of people and if the girl cant get over the race factor, then, intelligently, she would be lower then me and that type of person holds you back wink


Wow really? I didint expect Texas to have a big hiphop culture (Ive only flown over texas before, lol). Yeah, I grew up in an upper middle class white area (me not being upper middle class), so all the people of race sort of banded together. I really connected with people of other races through my four year business program.

Hahaha you sound like a chill person. And thats exactly how I feel. They dont like you because of your race, screw them. If they cant look past superficialities then theyre not worth it. I am in a happy, long term relationship with a mexican and Im proud! (plus it gives me that sense of culture I lacked growing up)
And I will be going to college in SF, so im expecting a huge culture difference there. People there are so nice and open minded :]

Post #465548 - Reply to (#465364) by choot
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from what i gather, u like white guys and dont quite like asian guys because they dont "dress" or act like white guys. either u just really love white guys in which case stop complaining abt asian guys and date white guys OR u want to date asian guys but white guys seem so much cooler.
either way, ur case has nothing to do with interracial dating.
"cool" is a subjective word...a guy with glasses in a boring grey shirt and jeans can be cool as well.
u just need to get past puberty.

Post #465549 - Reply to (#465539) by thesumof1
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In california there are a lot of people who wont date outside their race (at least where I live). So hearing, where you live, asian males date hispanic girls, which is really awesome.

I think a lot of this is about the culture you are raised. You would think that because I live near san Francisco, that people would be liberal and open minded, But thats not true. In the suburbs south of SF, people hang out in groups divided by race. I really dont understand why. People tend to fill stereotypes down here...


I'm assuming your confusion is sincere. I can explain.

That is actually the norm. The peninsula is actually better than most other cities. If you check the demographic maps for other major cities, like Chicago, New York, Detroit, Houston, etc, they are all noticeably racially divided. You might not think it's the norm because people currently in control of gov't and media tend to favour Marxist ideals and goals (abolishing individual races/nations and promoting the state and multination); and so they push it as the norm.

There are valid and logical reasons people choose to be that way. It takes a bit of thought and open-mindedness to understand why, so let's not brand them all as close-minded people. wink

They don't necessarily have to "dislike" other races. People group together because it's human nature to feel more comfortable around people who likely share the same experiences. They share similar values. They might speak the same language, literally and/or figuratively.

As for relationships, a lot of the above still hold true. A couple Korean friends I have tell me they *strongly* prefer Korean females because they want their children to speak Korean. It's understandable, because they want to preserve their language/culture. Also, some first generation immigrant parents/grandparents can't fluently speak English and it's too late for them to learn, but they still prefer to communicate with their grandchildren/great greatchildren using their first language.

I can sympathize with those sentiment because I'd definitely want my own children to know how to speak Mandarin, Cantonese, Japanese, or Korean. It's not about the skin color. I have an affinity for East Asia. If I had a Latino wife, I'd respect her wishes to have our children learn Spanish;. The more languages/intelligence our children have, the merrier. I just reasonably assume that most non-Asians wouldn't put as much effort or care as much for children to be sent to a weekend Asian language school. I don't automatically dismiss people that way, but it's generally held true from what I've seen.

Of course, for individuals who generally feel the same way I do, I am fine with whatever race they are. I strongly respect a couple of white men/women I know who married Asians... and took the effort to actually learn the language and culture. A Caucasian family friend I know can speak Mandarin and read/write Chinese better than the vast majority of ABCs. none

It goes beyond language, but it'll take too long to list everything out. I'm sure you can take off on your own past this point.

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I'm assuming your confusion is sincere. I can explain.

That is actually the norm. The peninsula is actually better than most other cities. If you check the demographic maps for other major cities, like Chicago, New York, Detroit, Houston, etc, they are all noticeably racially divided. You might not think it's the norm because people currently in control of gov't and media tend to favour Marxist ideals and goals (abolishing individual races/nations and promoting the state and multination); and so they push it as the norm.

There are valid and logical reasons people choose to be that way. It takes a bit of thought and open-mindedness to understand why, so let's not brand them all as close-minded people. wink

They don't necessarily have to "dislike" other races. People group together because it's human nature to feel more comfortable around people who likely share the same experiences. They share similar values. They might speak the same language, literally and/or figuratively.

As for relationships, a lot of the above still hold true. A couple Korean friends I have tell me they *strongly* prefer Korean females because they want their children to speak Korean. It's understandable, because they want to preserve their language/culture. Also, some parents/grandparents can't fluently speak English and it's too late for them to learn, but they still want to communicate with their grandchildren/great greatchildren.

I can sympathize with those sentiment because I'd definitely want my own children to know how to speak Mandarin, Cantonese, Japanese, or Korean. It's not about the skin color. I have an affinity for East Asia. If I had a Latino wife, I'd respect her wishes to have our children learn Spanish;. The more languages/intelligence our children have, the merrier. I just reasonably assume that most non-Asians wouldn't put as much effort or care as much for children to be sent to a weekend Asian language school. I don't automatically dismiss people that way, but it's generally held true from what I've seen.

Of course, for individuals who generally feel the same way I do, I am fine with whatever race they are. I strongly respect a couple of white men/women I know who married Asians... and took the effort to actually learn the language and culture. A Caucasian family friend I know can speak Mandarin and read/write Chinese better than the vast majority of ABCs. none


(I love the peninsula, dont get me wrong)
Oh yeah, I get the whole thing. I was talking about why they dont particularly hang out with other races. I understand the language thing, and the culture thing. But I wish people were a bit more open minded about people in general. Like I said In a previous post, I know asian males that wont hang out with any other race. They disapprove of asian women going for any other race of guys. The same goes with many african americans and pacific islanders I know.

Also, I totally agree with teaching your children your culture/language. In fact, I asked my Boyfriend the other day If he would teach his child spanish, he replied with a loud "Of course!"

Because I dont have any culture to speak of, I would probably raise my child in a different country, then move back to america.

Im learning mandarin chinese right now, and boy is it hard. I dont know if I will continue it, but I give credit to that guy who did.

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That's good to hear. For me personally, it's not simply knowing language just for the sake of knowing. Multilingual people have definite advantages and I've found they are also good at communicating with wider variety of people. So on a practical level, it helps with white collar jobs.

I'm really curious about these Asian males you speak of who won't hang out with any other race and disapprove of Asian Women going for any other race of guys. You stated that you're Caucasian, but these Asian males are kind of "hanging around" you and comfortable enough to tell you that they disapprove of Asian Women going for any other race of guys?

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Because I dont have any culture to speak of, I would probably raise my child in a different country, then move back to america.

This is exactly the kind of quote that makes me sympathize with a couple of moderate white nationalist friends. They don't "hate" other races (after all, I'm on good terms with them), but they feel like the "white race" is being marginalized in liberal democratic societies. As open-minded as the Bay Area tries to be, this perspective really is marginalized around here.

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Im learning mandarin chinese right now, and boy is it hard. I dont know if I will continue it, but I give credit to that guy who did.


It is definitely hard. Writing is even harder. Even a lot of East Asians themselves are forgetting how to write because they rely so much on technology these days (they type using phonetic alphabets or romanizations, and software will provide the correct characters for them). Frankly, I prefer alphabetical written languages like English over pictographic ones.

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You talked about identity, but you don't even know there are different cultures/ethnic backgrounds among "Asian" people? How could you just lump yourself with just a random guy who wanted to hit on you and who you don't even know? If you are not interested, just politely reject, just like you do with anyone else. I don't see the big deal at all. And hang out with anyone who connects with you. You are attracted to their personality at the end of the day and you won't even pay attention to their race. And you seem to be still in school. What a small world you are in. After leaving school, I am sure the world will be completely different to you.

If anyone "disapproves" of a personal issue like who you are dating, will you still consider them your friend? That only tells me that you still live in a stupid teenager world. Mature and civil individuals won't interfere with other people's personal lives. So get out of your world as quick as possible. Find some hobbies and make some proper friends outside your current circle.

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Post #465584 - Reply to (#465554) by N0x_
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That's good to hear. For me personally, it's not simply knowing language just for the sake of knowing. Multilingual people have definite advantages and I've found they are also good at communicating with wider variety of people. So on a practical level, it helps with white collar jobs.

I'm really curious about these Asian males you speak of who won't hang out with any other race and disapprove of Asian Women going for any other race of guys. You stated that you're Caucasian, but these Asian males are kind of "hanging around" you and comfortable enough to tell you that they disapprove of Asian Women going for any other race of guys?


Yeah, I definitely wish I had someone to teach me a language as I was growing up.

Oh no, my asian girl friends tell me about it. They feel as if they are pressured. And they occasionally hang out with caucasians, but when it comes to music, dating, and food, they argue that they have the best. They even argue among themselves as to which country is the best.
And I am not saying all asian people are like this, Oh no. Its just that this particular group of people annoys the fuck out of me.

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This is exactly the kind of quote that makes me sympathize with a couple of moderate white nationalist friends. They don't "hate" other races (after all, I'm on good terms with them), but they feel like the "white race" is being marginalized in liberal democratic societies. As open-minded as the Bay Area tries to be, this perspective really is marginalized around here.


I really dont care much for the white americans who say their culture is being taken away by immigrants, if thats what you mean. I just thought it is a good idea to raise a child someplace with a language, a history, and a culture. Something I never had.


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It is definitely hard. Writing is even harder. Even a lot of East Asians themselves are forgetting how to write because they rely so much on technology these days (they type using phonetic alphabets or romanizations, and software will provide the correct characters for them). Frankly, I prefer alphabetical written languages like English over pictographic ones.


Yeah, I like alphabets much better. My boyfriend is teaching me spanish right now, and it is so much easier (I guess because it is related to english too). I have a friend from Hong Kong, who frequently says 'I dont know' when I ask her how to spell a character. Of course this is extreme (because she lived in Hong Kong, mostly everybody knew english), but still, It is a very hard language.


Post #465622 - Reply to (#465543) by ShadowSakura
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i found this once in the net. it´s about which country the japanese hate the most:
2008 result
BLAH

and what does that have anything to do with the topic?

As an Asian man, I'm fairly open to interracial relationships.
It's not self-hate.
I just like variety.

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I'm an Asian girl and I find Asian men just as attractive if not more than their whiter counterparts.

Post #465645 - Reply to (#465624) by ChiirokoChan
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I'm an Asian girl and I find Asian men just as attractive if not more than their whiter counterparts.

second this
it's just because the culture we raised in
anyway interracial dating seems pretty interesting coz there's a lot of challenge in the relationships
but i like humble asian guys moaarrr hehe~

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I like asian guys but they don't seem to enjoy the white girls as you've mentioned.
Although I have my preferences I usually end up falling hardest for guys who are nothing like my "type".

There are certain people I'll hit on at parties and stuff, but after to getting to know people I'll pretty much date anyone.

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I'm all for interracial dating, You shouldn't limit yourself when experiencing things in life.

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