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DorkFishOK
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You are given $600. I bring you to a room and tell you that for each thing you count as a person in the room, you give me $100. Within the room are:

-a human clone
- a gorilla who is trained to communicate through symbols, pictures and words
- an artificial computer intelligence
- a man in a vegetative state

How much do you give me? Why?

(note that a person and a human can be two different things)

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Casey D. Geek
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$600, $100 each for the six people in the room.
I do have some concerns over the man in the vegitative state though. Even though I'd count him as a human, I might support his passing on depending on what he would think of his situation if he had een the observer, and whether or not his situation is curable.

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First of all, I regard someone/something as a person, if it has a recognizable personality. As such you'd get 500$ from me, made up of 200$ for both you and me, 100 for the clone, 100$ for the gorilla and 100$ for the A.I. (if it is on a high level *refer to BINA48*)
The man in a vegetative state is, for as long as the state lasts not a person. Since vegetative states that last to long can destroy personalities, He even might've lost the personality that he had before.

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300$
clone, you and me

a computer is a computer, however intelligent it is.
A man in a vegetative state isn't conscious anymore. Brain isn't working anymore. He's human though.
And a gorilla is... A gorilla, it should live with other gorilla and learn useful things for itself. Doesn't need to communicate with us, it'll just bring it to a circus or some other place. I'm not saying he's useless or that we must not care for it/love it but that it is not a person.

A clone is a living being with a working brain, feelings and consciousness of its own. It has its own free will and everything. And I assume you meant a human clone. Works for me.

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ill give the money to the ones who can ask me for it so
100 for clone
100 for AI
100 for gorilla
100 for a whore to make the orgy were gonna have less awkward

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Turbophoenix
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$300.

$100 for myself, $100 for the clone and $100 for the AI. The clone and I free the gorilla, who then proceeds to rip off your arms and beat you to death with them for enslaving him. The gorilla then takes coma-dude back to his house, because he feels a strong bond with him and wishes to care for him. The clone and I carry the AI to a lab, where we install it and start building cyborgs. We take over the planet in under 6 months. Shortly after our reign begins, both myself and the clone are killed by the AI. Earth soon turns into a robot utopia, until the year 44,867, when aliens the size of galaxies use our solar system as target practice for their disintegration rays.

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I think that from the ones you listed, I'd pick the clone and the man in a vegetative state. I don't think that a human clone would differ from "normal" humans in any way, so of course it's a person. The man in a vegetative state definitely is not a "thing" - although he's unconscious, he's still a person. And probably has a family that care about him. Do you stop being a person when you are asleep?
It's a bit more complicated with the artificial intelligence - is it just a more advanced computer, or can it feel emotions like a human (like, for example, robots from Pluto)?
But definitely not a gorilla. An animal is not a person.

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300$ you, me and the man in the vegitative state.

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I will give you... no dollars.

I'd take the money and run.

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I'd give you nothing, considering you never specified we were actually in the room. Nor did you say what the clone was of. For all I know it could be a Pea plant.

Call me horrible, I don't really care, but none of those things really constitute a person to me.

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Assuming we're looking in on the room from outside, I'd give you $100 if the clone was a human.

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I will give you... no dollars.

I'd take the money and run.

The correct choice.

Klapzi
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8:19 pm, Jun 6 2011
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Considering we are outside the room I would give you nothing.


KILION
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so...lets see...I think
1.-I would rape you
1.5.-kill you
2.-rob you
3. burn you
4.-bury your ash
4.5- clean evidence
5.-rape that clone
5.5.-kill clone
6.-rob it
7-°;..,°
8.....you know what come next don't you? x3

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8.....you know what come next don't you? x3

You would rape a gorilla.

Good job...

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