What a min... the writer and artist of Okane Ga Nai manga are males?! Errr.... what? Ayase is so effeminate that I thought the manga was geared towards females or something.

Pardon my shock and I know it's probably late news. But still, is it true?

Edit: I'd say "what is so wrong with this world?" but then again, there's yaoi and shota aimed at straight men.

Last edited by VampireBanana at 1:30 pm, Jun 25 2011

One of my fave yaois ever! Yaoi can be directed at any demographic. And some yaois are to sexualize women, and I definitely think that OGN counts as one of those. But I love it when guys are mangakas! Especially male shojo and yaoi authors. They offer a fresh look on things.

I suppose that explains why Ayase is so effeminate

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I wasn't so surprised they were men. I mean, gay manga, gay men...? If might be geared towards women but I'm PRETTY sure gay guys read it too. So why not make it too? But yaoi and shota aimed at straight men? How does that even work?

And I don't think I've ever read a shojo manga by a male author before!

Well first of all, the "Yaoi" you're talking about is Trap hentai, and yes, it's aimed at the male audience, though there's a huge difference between the yaoi aimed at women and yaoi aimed at men, first of all, the one aimed at women is MUCH LESS sexual, because...well obviously the readers are female so yeah, and the one aimed at the male audience is basically hentai, you grab a lolita, you give her a penis and you got a trap hentai (Or what do you call male-oriented shota). second of all, if the female oriented yaoi had a sex scene, it's usually very brief, 2 pages at the most, while the male-oriented yaoi, just like any other hentai, is at least 12 pages long. third, female oriented shota is rare, that's obvious. while male oriented shota is just uncommon, there are alot of other differences but i stated what i know.
also@sarablack10
i'm sorry, but where did you hear that? Yaoi is generally aimed at the Fujoshi audience, a normal otaku girl would be plainly disgusted, and even more so a guy. also i've never heard of anything like " some yaois are to sexualize women", it's true that smutty yaoi's exist, but it's not exactly for that purpose.
@bats6767
I don't think gay guys read yaoi, well, at least as far as japan goes, i mean they do have very low gay population (even though gay population was always very low and will always be ;p), there's bara for gay men but it's very limited in terms of both audience and the manga itself.

Men are perfectly capable of writing manga for women. Not saying that's the case here, but an author's sex doesn't necessarily determine the target demographics for their works.

i wouldn't be overexaggerating if i said this is the best reply so far.

This section is a dumpster fire.

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“𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝓇𝑜𝓈𝑒'𝓈 𝓇𝒶𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝑒𝓈𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓁𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓇𝓃𝓈.” ― 𝑀𝒶𝓌𝓁𝒶𝓃𝒶 𝒥𝒶𝓁𝒶𝓁-𝒶𝓁-𝒟𝒾𝓃 𝑅𝓊𝓂𝒾.
あたしは腐女子です。少女漫画、たくさん読んでください。

I don't see why every single readers to this manga always comments on Ayase being feminine looking..I've seen and read some manga drawings that has a MALE uke that looks too much like a girl/female and they just turn me off..Kinda disgusted by it..I mean, if I wanted a F/M relationship, then I wouldn't be reading YAOI/SLASH, would I...So, Ayase to me, just doesn't look female at all..He's delicate and beautiful but not girly..I just don't see it and you guys can't be all bias/stereotypical about him and his appearance due to his tiny size...


As for the writers being male..SO WHAT!! What does gender really have to do with anything. NO-ONE knows what an individual believes in or how he/she is in their life experience, so, for ALL of you to just comment about one thing or another is just plain stupid...

For those who didn't know:
Josei (Yaoi/Shounen-ai) -> Women
Bara -> Men

That's why the demographic is josei.

WHAT?!

Hi! Although this comes several years late, both the writer of the original novel, Hitoyo Shinozaki, and the mangaka, Tohru Kousaka, are BOTH WOMEN.

The information on the author profiles was wrong, but it's now been fixed. Sorry for the confusion.

The target audience is female. That doesn't mean men can't write or enjoy it. (I am living proof.)

Yes, this is outside of bara, made by gay men for gay men, and you can't tell me women don't read bara as well.

KISARAGI Hirotaka is male, and he has some awesome work!

I haven't read anything by SAKURA Haiji, but his art is cute!

MAYA Mineo does shounen-ai works, with one series over 100 volumes!

SUMIYOSHI Ryo is also male.

As well as KUJOU Aoi

And I just discovered KANBE Akira!

Not to consider the amount of artists who use pen names and may assume the opposite gender for their works.

Last edited by sagesmith at 2:59 am, Sep 3 2020

I loved reading these comments over the implications of men writing yaoi only find out it's a moot point. 😃

Hi!

As this confusion seems to continue, I bring you some links with reliable information confirming they are BOTH WOMEN.

Japanese online manga retailer Booklive specifies they are female (性別：女性 ) on their profile page:

• Tohru Kousaka: https://booklive.jp/focus/author/a_id/23367
• Hitoyo Shinozaki: https://booklive.jp/focus/author/a_id/23368

Also, they recently retweeted on their official twitter account, a 4-coma of Shinozaki-sensei chatting with Mick-sensei during a meeting, where Shinozaki-sensei is pictured clearly as a girl, and referred to by Mick-sensei as "Shino-chan" (she's the one on the "screen"😉
Source: https://twitter.com/sadistic_mode/status/1382337139933782025

Also, I personally had the chance to attend an autograph session of both of them back in 2009 in Tokyo, and can confirm they are both women, and are indeed very beautiful and sweet ladies. Shinozaki-sensei also goes in person to sell their doujinshi during Comiket and other events, and you can easily met here there too (I did that as well and she signed a DJ for me ♥. I can include pictures if you doubt me).But since you probably won't take my word for it, I included the information above.

I really don't understand this obsession with making these autors male just because they use male-sounding pennames. There ARE male BL mangaka out there, of course, but Shinozaki and Kousaka are NOT. And it's not a "moot point", this confusion does not exist in Japan. Please stop spreading the wrong info.


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