It is sexist because they have to wear a skirt without being given the option to wear pants; so, I'd say that is clearly discriminative treatment based on gender. In that train of thought it is also sexist that boys aren't allowed to wear skirts; I don't see why boys shouldn't be allowed to wear skirts if they wanted to. At my high school there were some boys who wore long skirts, and that wasn't against any rules.

I do realise I'm talking about manga, and I'm not saying that that's also the case in real life.
But for the record, wearing a knee-high skirt or even a long one is still too cold in winter where I live, but perhaps your winters aren't that cold.


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Tights? I suppose that would depend on how strict the dress code is at certain schools, but I really don't see a reason why it would not be allowed.

By the way, where is your signature and avatar from?

whats sexist about wearing skirts?i think people here are kind of exaggerating
i dont like my current school's uniform but i wouldnt call it "sexist"
in my old school the uniform was a knee-length dress,it was actually really cute,and during winter we would wear white tights underneath

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I hate de short skirts (mini) because I don't like how they look on me (I think my thighs are too fat, even when I know they aren't. It's all psychological) but I like the large ones and the knee-skirt

It's not sexist, it's tradtion. boys wear pants and girls were skirts. It's like this all over the world, although to varying degrees. Girls would wear skirts to formal envirnoments, and school is/was supposed to be a formal environment were you learn.

At school we're allowed to wear what we want. But if i HAD to choose, I'd definitely want to wear pants, i hate skirts, I don't they are nice to wear and I feel so naked in skirts and dresses.

I think forbidding to wear pants for girls and skirts for boys is sexist, it was the normal dress code till around the 60's but these are modern times and I think dressing the way you want should be allowed for everyone.

Though I say that you should have to dress the way you want, in my personal view, I'd like to see people fully clothed.

my country, in government schools, its:
boy = pants
girl = dress

though im not sure if its the same dress as you girls because they have to put a shirt beneath it.

and yes, normally its supposed to be at least knee length but some try to shorten it [appeal?]

True, there's no problem if girls choose to wear skirts, and boys choose to wear pants, but forcing them to wear a skirt or pants based on gender is sexist.
There is actually a law that prohibits women from wearing pants in Paris; exceptions are made for physical activities like riding a bicycle, and it isn't really enforced that much anymore, but the law is still in place.

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In my school we wore a skort! (skirt with pants underneath)
Well it was actually a dress in the summer then skirt in the winter, but in year 10 they change it. I have to say it's quite a good change as it was more practical, but it looked cute at the same time.
Also I guess it was to combat the short dresses ... But that didn't deter people from shorting their skorts lol

As for whether girls should have a choice, I never really thought it was sexist or not, especially after the change since it made the girl and boy uniforms more similar. I know of a few girls who wore pants instead of a skirt and nothing much came out of that they weren't asked to change back as far as I know, but usually those were the exceptions especially during cold weather (I think it mentions somewhere that you're allowed to wear pants when it's cold)
Besides if it was really sexist I think even the girls PE uniform would have a skirt or something like playing hockey or netball. But that isn't the case, I would like to think the skirt came down from tradition and it just stuck not due to any sexist issue, but it maintains our school identity which unfortunately is rapidly changing for the worse in my opinion.

I for once actually am proud to wear my uniform skirt/skort instead of pants as it means I'm not conforming to male dominance, but I'm a proud feminist =]

No, it is. I teach in 2 Japanese senior highs (16-18) and all the girls wear school shorts under their skirt, especially in winter. The only girls with short skirts are the ones who roll them up to make them short, and that is frowned upon generally. In winter, the girls usually wear tights as well and they all have these really awesome mini blankets which they put over their legs in class.

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You damn right it's sexist!!! I like wearing skirts, but since I'm told to I won't and I'm gonna throw a hissy-fit and sue every cultural institution just because my own culture raised me as a litigious moron who hates any kind of tradition and believes everything is either racism, sexism, agism, homophobic, so on. While we at it, why do US basketball players have to wear those damn uniforms, is it because most of them are black? RACISM I tell you! Why do the lunch ladies, cleaning ladies, delivery, kitchen workers all have to wear a very dull ugly colored rags? CLASSISM I tell you! What about those poor poor prisoners. They have no say in what they get to wear. How dare the government force them to wear such unfashionable orange uniforms. And why politicians have to wear a suits in public, even in hot summers OH MY. Lets make up a word for that and complain about it. lets see... prisonerism... politicianism... Trash collectorism, mailmanism, doctorism, plumberism... WHY IS THE WORLD SO SCREWED UP FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM!!! Oh no how about those hot geisha dresses? They are probably very uncomfortable, but I love the look so I'll leave that be, for now. In fact why do ANY students have to wear uniforms? That classifies as - tam tam tam - AGISM. Oh noeeees how dare the educational system do that. Just because they are kids they shouldn't be forced to wear uniforms.

I will tell you the same thing I told someone who tried to tell me I should not eat honey because poor little bees are being overworked, shouldn't eat eggs because apparently chickens are being abused by evil farmers, drink milk because it's a product of cow-rape and sexual abuse, wear red because the red dye comes from some sort of bug extract (which is very very bad for poor little bugs) so on. GET A LIFE!
Not everything needs to be classified as some sort of social demeaning . Most of us love to wear uniforms and Japanese ES gives exceptions in which, if necessary, you can wear something else. If it is not necessary, why shouldn't you wear a uniform? Get used to it, unless you are self-employed or living off your parents you will be wearing a professional clothing. Men wear suits, women wear suits. Skirts are much more liberating and considering that Japan is not the coldest country in the world, it doesn't bother many in fact most japanese girls can't wait to wear them.
Most (probably all) cultures have gender specific clothing, which is not always pants for men and skirts for women. There are some that are the other way around. In most southern countries men used to wear that tunic-thingy, which is basically a dress. Scottish men worn skirts. Indian women have traditional pants. There is nothing wrong with this tradition. Usually the nations that eat this crap up and make all this fuss are those who have no culture left like US and many European countries. Gosh I get pissed off by this liberal hippy crap...

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You seem to think lot of stuff without any real knowledge to back it up so let me enlighten you. Of course it depends on the school's dress code whether or not you can wear tights or leggings. So far your deduction skills seem to be in order, however... Why do you think that's not the same for Japanese schools? I have failed to see your logic in this matter. So to enlighten you further: it's the same for Japanese schools, it depends on how strict the dress code is. And I can't even say for certain that any school forbids it.


It wasn't against any rules because there wasn't a school uniform, right? You're saying it's sexist because girls and boys have different uniforms? If so then I advice you to look up "sexism" because obviously you've misunderstood the term.


It doesn't seem to be too cold to wear a dress or a long skirt in less than -30 Celsius, but if it's colder than that in winters where you're living then you should know better about that. Or perhaps you've tried only wearing a long summer skirt in winter with nothing underneath.


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I don't even feel like arguing about this anymore. I say it's sexist, you say it isn't; fine, but don't go telling me to look things up like I'm stupid.
Oh, and "advice" is a noun, the verb is "advise"; look it up.



If I'd wear pants underneath a skirt, I wouldn't need the skirt anymore; so, I'd just be wasting time putting it on.


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Ahaha. Oh, you. Well, in a previous post which you obviously failed to see, a kind person explained how it is but in a much nicer tone, mind you. Therefore, I don't need your "enlightenment," thank you very much. ;D Have a nice day!

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Sexist or not sexist, Japanese girls love wearing their uniforms. Some girls even chose their high school based on the uniform. Anyway, yes they can wear leggings or tights under their skirts. (My cousins school, not sure about others). Why are people making a big deal about it anyway? The majority of Japanese girls adore their uniform and see nothing wrong with it. It's in their culture. Since the begining when Japan became more western the school uniform was what you call a "sailor uniform" for girls. Plus, the normal skirts are actually knee length or even longer. Some schools forbid the girls to roll it up, while others don't. It depends. But I do know a girl who was a bit of a tomboy and wore her brother's old uniform to school (pants). She got in trouble at first, but later on since she wouldn't quit, they let her wear it.
The girls don't find it sexist at all (The majority), so why are people making hissy fit over it?
I'm half japanese, and go there almost every summer. I have many Japanese girls as friends, including my cousins, and for a fact I know they love their uniforms. I even tell them I'm envious of their uniform since mine is just plain and ugly.