ha ha !
how very sly


oh?you're no fun
comeon get a little more creative look at the post below ur's now thats something

alot of people still dont get it,i know there are 2 answers but which in YOUR opinion is the right one?what is your take on it?
i still think that the answer is no,if i tell you a ufo landed in the middle of nowhere but noone saw it ,how do you know if it really happened?

The real question is if a tree falls in the woods is it still a tree?

I don't get these kinds of questions. I know it's philosophical and all that, but how does that change facts?

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humans put lots of meaning to silly things like SOUND

if something does fall...that is established in the question...that means that it makes some form of sound...as it falls and when it hits the ground

the last time i checked humans are not the only living beings that can pick up on vibrations

and unless all life on this planet is dead some animal,insects,form of life would pick up on the vibrations/sound of this tree falling

I kind of agree. This makes me think of when people ask, "Would you say this glass is half-empty or half-full?" and I just want to say, "It doesn't matter! IT'S THE SAME THING!!"

You could ask as an extension of the tree question though, how do you know the whole word isn't some sort of simulation like in The Matrix, and that nothing beyond your perceptions exists? It could be like a game that only loads what's absolutely necessary in order to save RAM and processing power. If that were the case, you might also ask, how do you know anyone else is real, or are they just simulations too? Say you graduate from school and you never see half of your classmates ever again - are they still out there in the world, or did they cease to exist because they're no longer part of your life?

Really you could just go on and on with philosophical questions like this. Of course thinking about life and the world can be valuable, but I don't really feel like endlessly postulating about this kind of stuff would ever get you anywhere.



Ah - but how do you know there are other forms of life close enough to the tree to somehow sense it falling if you are not there to see or hear them?

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YES!! exactly thats the point of the question
theres much more to it than a tree falling

i say it doesnt make a sound because what is proof of the sound? its existence is its proof right? but what is existence? how do we know someone or something exist? i believe memory of someone or something is proof of its existence because if you were to die and no one never knew you and you left no physical or mental reminder of your existence behind did you really exist? so does the sound exist? but then again im probably wrong

Its mostly about personal perception and definition, there is no right or wrong, at least from how i perceive it =P

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The tree would not explode... or as you put it rip apart. It would just eventually freeze... depending on the distance from the sun and if it gets direct sunlight.

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The sound is there.
Sounds exist as they are, not as they are perceived.
This way of thinking has become obsolete.
The question itself is just a troll for the people who danced
to get rain. Making a sound and making a perceived sound
are two different things. If you're to discuss philosophical dilemmas,
rather discuss whether the world is predestined or not.


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There's a sound, there's just no one to hear it.

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that's like the koizumi paradox in suzumiya haruhi vol 1.. if human don't exist how does anyone know that the universe exist?

i'm not so philosophical so the answer is quite straight. it makes a sound. weather someone is there or not does not matter. how the hell does it fall anyway? it just fall!! it doesn't have to wait for other people to witness it for the tree to fall.

so, if you found the tree behind your backyard is toppled on the ground the next day you wake up, rest assured. the tree fell. and it made a sound while it does. weather you hear it or not does not matter because it fell and it made a sound. thank goodness for the law of physic

Yes.

Oh yeah, for any of those who believe in God, I'm pretty sure whoever the heck made this question thought that God sees and hears everything and anything he wants. "He is always watching," dadadada and all that stuff. So in that sense, it would make a sound.

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"I don't know," Alice answered.
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~Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

Oh come on, not this again.

Of course it makes a sound.
Just because we're not there to hear it, doesn't mean there was no sound.

In the end, you either go with faith or count on logic.
But like with most things, I don't care.
I don't care if this tree makes a sound or not, I don't care if people are there or not, I just don't care.
My world is my world, as it is to everyone. Everyone lives in their own bubble, be it shared or not.
There's more, there's less, there is what there is.
Thinking about what ifs is really just playing childish games.

Edit:
lol, I was sure I posted this like two hours ago...




The UFO landing would be a fact.
Your knowledge or opinion on the matter makes no difference.
It has happened. Things have been happening for a long time.
Would you say that the past hasn't happened?

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